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    The biking thread....

    in The Tailgate

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    3 hours ago, mcsluggo said:

    was back out today, but left home at 6:30 am, so that i can leave work at 4ish... 

    it was gorgeous!! the colors were in full swing, and the trails were basically empty.   The few people i DID see were dressed like arctic seal hunters, but I was perfectly comfy with shorts and t-shirt**  I just don't get it, they must've been boiling by the time they got to where they were going....right??

     

    **---plus gardening gloves and one of my kids leggings on my head ----  i couldn;t find my gloves, and i am a cheap bastage to boot.  what can i say :) 

    We're probably a bit further toward Winter here in Boston but I find this is one of the tougher times of year in terms of wearing the right clothing during my bike commute. I did find some nice biking pants that are light enough to wear when it gets into the 60s, but also keep me warm down to around 25F (Sugoi Pace I think). Other than that, it's layers - my courier bag has enough stuff in it without the extra clothing so it gets to be a pain. A balaclava and a lighter skull cap, light and heavy gloves, sometimes a rain coat others a light winter coat, and waterproof shoe covers. Ugh - bulky and heavy. It probably won't be an issue much longer though...

    The Conspiracy Thread

    in The Stadium

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    18 hours ago, Why am I Mr. Pink? said:

    But the Bengal defender didnt butt, spear or ram Desean. 

    Helmet to helmet contact on an established runner is called when ..." A 15-yard penalty will be called if a runner or a tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players clearly are outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle-to-tackle and from 3 yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team's end line). Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or a tackler against an opponent would not be deemed a foul"

    If the H2H happened to Desean before he completed 2 steps and when he was a defenseless player in the act of making a catch, then yes, thats a 15 yarder. But Desean took 3 steps, establishing him as a runner and the tackler didnt use his crown. 

    Under your interpretation, any time a tackler's facemask or helmet makes contact with a runners helmet, its 15 yards. They changes the rule a few years ago to avoid that interpretation.  

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000238662/article/new-nfl-rules-crownofhelmet-change-to-help-runner-defender

    http://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2016-nfl-rulebook/#rule12

    Yes but it wasn't incidental. It was intentional in my interpretation, which means protected or not, he should be flagged. The Iloka led with his head. Do you disagree?

    The Conspiracy Thread

    in The Stadium

    Posted · Edited by MassSkinsFan
    Unnecessary roughness - bad formatting

    1 hour ago, Why am I Mr. Pink? said:

    Re the Desean h2h - I think Blandino already explained a few days ago that Desean had taken 3 steps so he was an established runner and not a defenseless receiver in the act of making a catch. You are allowed to do H2H on established runners. I could still see a ref crew throw a flag on that hit maybe 25% of the time. Tough for Desean bc imo he was defenseless as he really didnt have his feet fully under him. 

    Helmet to helmet contact is a 15 yard penalty, and could be more (at the discretion of the referee). It's in Article 6 (i) as one of the conditions for unnecessary roughness: 

    "using any part of a player’s helmet or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily"

     

    If that's what Blandino said then he's just making **** up.

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    The Conspiracy Thread

    in The Stadium

    Posted

    14 minutes ago, Wildbunny said:

    Well, if you think that only DBs are putting their hands in another player's facemask, then well, there's no point in going further. That kind of stuff happens all the time. Now Norman is being targeted for that. He only have been in the league for 5 years and sure he never did it before, as nobody else. And I'll stand to my point, since Crowder wasn't a facemask, what Norman is doing is nothing illegal. Just jamming on the line, which is fine by the rules.

    When you play football, much of the action involves things that are, per the rulebook, illegal. Some more than others. 

    For instance, on OL you have rules about holding. They are routinely bent and sometimes outright broken. Typically, refs look the other way unless they have meaningful impact or are so blatant that the player needs to be flagged to put an end to the bad behavior. Sort of like drawing a line in the sand. A great example you see all the time is the violation of this rule: "(Use of Hands, Arms, and Body:) No player on offense may assist a runner except by blocking for him." On almost every running play when a RB gets stuffed, OL comes up and pushes him and/or the pile forward. I know this is against the rules, yet I know we won't see a flag for it, because that's how refs routinely call games.

    What Norman did was technically wrong, and I agree he shouldn't have expected the refs to stop calling it, and should have stopped. But, the severity of what he did versus the Crowder facemask or the DJax headhunting play was like comparing a peashooter to a Howitzer. A line needed to be drawn in the sand and wasn't. Those non-calls made it clear to Bengals players that they could get away with murder on defense. The calls on Norman told Skins D players they would be flagged for anything at all.

    I think the refs threw a lot of late flags against the Skins when they knew it would make a difference, and allowed Cincinnati players to get away with infractions that would normally not be tolerated. I think it happened because they were trying to give an advantage. I think that if Hopkins makes that FG at the end of the game, there is going to be a late flag for holding or tripping - both things that routinely happen on a FG - against the Skins to move the ball out of FG range.

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    The Giants...lol

    in Around the NFL

    Posted · Edited by MassSkinsFan

    I had major foot surgery this summer as a result of cumulative damage from playing OL in football. The problem was hallux rigidus which my orthopedic surgeon told me is also called lineman's toe. In fact, when I first went to see him he said he'd seen my x-ray and asked if I'd played OL. Anyway, it was a success (joint replacement) and I'm on the mend. However I was out of the office for 6 weeks. 

    When I returned, my boss, a Gnats fan, had bought an OBJ Fathead and put various bits of it up in my office, including the life-size version of him catching a pass. Long story short, he got me good. It took me a while to figure out how to retaliate, but I finally came up with something. I put it in the toilet next to his office. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    **** OBJYN, **** Mara and **** the Giants!

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    NFL.com: Browns waive Manziel (and other Browns related stuff--MET)

    in Around the NFL

    Posted

    Vanity Fair article

    Vanity Fair: THE FIGHT TO SAVE JOHNNY MANZIEL FROM ALL-OUT SELF-DESTRUCTION  

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    The Manziels questioned Fitch about the extent of the problem at the house Johnny and Brant shared on Pershing Avenue. Fitch, whose father was a drug therapist, told them what he knew. According to people familiar with the details, marijuana was in regular use at the house, as was the prescription tranquilizer Xanax, a popular party drug often ground up, snorted, and chased with alcohol; MDMA, known as “Molly,” a form of Ecstasy; and, occasionally, cocaine. Some in the family came to blame Johnny’s introduction to drugs on Brant, whose Twitter feed is sprinkled with references to Xanax. I asked Brant about his drug use. “I don’t deny it,” he said. “But it’s not like this was some kind of Amy Winehouse scene.”

    Was it fair, I asked, to say he seldom declined Xanax or Molly if offered? Brant responded with a grin: “That’s a fair way to put it.”

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    The person whose warnings could be seen and heard by others—often and loudly—was [college buddy] "Uncle" Nate Fitch. According to two of Fitch’s friends, the turning point came when Fitch’s father, the drug therapist, sat his son down and told him that by “protecting” Johnny at bars and clubs he wasn’t actually helping him. He was enabling him. After that, friends say, Uncle Nate began openly confronting Manziel.

    “Nate told him, ‘Look what you’re doing—Tom Brady doesn’t do this stuff,’ ” says someone who heard him. “ ‘Brett Favre doesn’t do this. Joe Montana doesn’t do this. I don’t know any N.F.L. quarterbacks who do. Oh wait, Ryan Leaf did. You’re my best friend, and I love you. One day you’ll thank me.’ ”

    Once it became clear Johnny had no intention of cutting back his partying, friends say, Fitch told the Manziels what his father had taught him. He said Johnny was “sick” and informally diagnosed him with “substance-abuse disorder [S.A.D.].” With the disorder, Fitch warned the family, a person will give up almost anything, even something they love—in this case football—rather than stop using drugs.

    <full story at link>

     

    Ouch! :hitfan:

    The Giants...lol

    in Around the NFL

    Posted

    Should we cross-reference this to the Conspiracy thread? :ols:

    OBJYN is NFL's Biggest CrybabyTM . When the Gnats come to DC it would be great if the team would distribute official NFL's Biggest CrybabyTM crying towels to the fans. They could offer them to OBJYN every time Norman smokes him.

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