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One of the reasons that Daniel's won the Heisman was his pass completion rate. Also, when you look at the number of yards he threw, as I have said in other posts, the yards were comparable to both Williams and Maye. So, it is not as though he can't complete passes accurately and just takes off. That is just not true. But he has used his legs more because he is a dual-threat QB, and they designed plays for him. He will have to make some adjustments. I really do not think it is going to take a long time. He can rely on his ability to pass and to be accurate. This is why I think we really need to pick up a big, bodied receiver and an excellent TE receiver. And I think he would be great with Terry and Jahan. I really think this guy can be coached up. Some QB's can't. One concern I have is the strength of our O line. If it is not substantially better than it was for Howell, and we draft Daniels forget it. He would develop so many bad habits, all the concerns you are raising will happen. But they already added some pieces, and they will add more through the draft. I think we could run a very fast offense with him. He is ahead of some of the other prospects, and yes, he has played longer in college, and right now that is a plus. So, his development is key. That to me is the most important element for any young QB who comes into the league. I think we have the coaches to get the most out of him and ensure longevity if he listens.

LOL! Your right do you know the two QB;'s that did? And Roger Staubach I think.

Two and he will be the third. Joe Montana is one.

I can't figure out how he had so many completions then. The guy won the Heisman. He had an amazing year, and I think it is transferable even though some on here actually said college stats don't matter. Yes, completions matter. The ability to use your legs in the modern NFL matters. I don't think he is going to get killed in the NFL. I think he will continue to make adjustments like rookies have to. I think the will pass the tests.

That is not true. He threw for more yards than Maye, as a comparison. Caleb threw for around 4,500 I believe and he threw for about 3,800.

He had just as many yards passing, meaning comparable to the top prospects. Caleb Williams had 4,500, and he had 3,800. Maye had around 3500. I have not checked the other QB's on running the ball, but he definitely had about 500 more in terms of yardage in running the ball then they did, if my memory is correct. So, his running is not supplemental IMO to his passing.

But isn't that the beauty of having a QB that can use his legs? I mean how many QB's get pressured and fold like a cheap tent? I think that is the beauty of this guy, and what @Dah-Deeposted agree with regarding Daniels. Does he need to make some adjustments? Yes. Does every rookie QB that comes in have to make adjustments? Yes. I know many of you think he cannot adjust. He already did. Can he make more adjustments? Absolutely with a decent staff. I think we have the right staff plus Mariotta to get the best out of Daniels if they choose to go in that direction.

Honestly, and I just said it, I think he will adjust on this level. I don't see the same personality as RG3. And I still think he took a lot more unnecessary hits at Arizona. I kind of agree with what @Llevron said about him not taking certain risks and playing a bit more like Mahomes. I think he can be coached up. I do not think RG3 took coaching. I think Daniels has and will.

I think anyone who views Daniels as having the potential to succeed in the NFL would have to also acknowledge that he needs to continue to adjust so he can realistically be our QB years from now. The question is do we have the QB coach, O Coordinator, conditioning staff who can work with him so he can have longevity. And I say yes. Does he really have a run first mentality? I looked at the top prospects passing numbers, and I admit, only from last year, and they were all fairly comparable in terms of yardage. Where he exceeded was of course in the "off script" running you mentioned. His total yards were around 5,000. I honestly think he can. He has already made some adjustments. And more adjustments can be drilled into him.

Fair enough. That was a great analogy. I had to laugh. But I honestly I like him and I think he can stay healthy.

I just watched what you posted, and I see stuff like that every Sunday with QB's. The bottom line is can they get up and continue? I know Andrew Luck couldn't after a few years. And I hope that is not Daniel's. I just don't see him as RG3 except from a dual-threat perspective. That one video, the guy was barreling down on his head and got called for it. If that **** happens every week, find me any QB in the NFL that could take hit after hit like that and not be horribly injured. Who do you think they should take if not him?

I have watched a lot of tape on Daniel's at LSU. Can you direct me to a few? Because I did not see then as massive at LSU. Sure he took some hits, they all do. To me it is how you handle it.

Fair enough. But IMO most QB's take some massive hits. It is part of the game. Point is he handled it at LSU. In Arizona he was crushed.

That is fine I have not been on here for a few days because of work, so my apologies. And just to be clear. All I am saying is that I think Daniel's has made adjustments in his game so I am not concerned about an injury. But I 100% the rehashing gets old. And you have solid takes. I can't wait for the draft...lol!

I mean he had over 3,800 yards passing last year. Compared to 3,600 passing yards for Maye. I mean yes, Daniel's had a lot of rushing yards, but his passing yards were comparable to other QB's.

Yes, I agree about the hits with RG3. The guy did not even know how to slide. And it seems based upon everything I have read that Daniels has changed his approach, so he does not take those types of hits like he did at Arizona which led to those injuries. I can see the concern, however. I used to think that RG3 had a good long ball, but what happened after he was injured? He just did not seem able to make that adjustment to just being a drop back passer because of the prior injury. He did not make those reads accurately, so he took a lot of sacks. And if your opponents, like when he was at Baylor know the threat is there for him to run, the type of pressure is different.

I think they are very different personalities. RG3 was stubborn and not willing to make adjustments. Jayden Daniels has proven to be the exact opposite. He was injury prone at Arizona. When he went to LSU he took feedback. He learned to protect himself and not take unnecessary risks. He changed his conditioning routine; he changed his diet to add more muscle for durability. And most of all, even if he does run, and you do need a dual-threat QB in this league, just watching him his first and second instinct is NOT to run. How he has evolved as a player is really overlooked a lot IMO. Unlike an RG3 and more like Kirk Cousin's he has evolved as a player. And he has a solid long ball. No, it is not the best, but it is decent. I think with this type of personality, and dedication to his craft he will evolve and continue to get better. I am okay with either Daniels or Maye.

I think there is a big difference between possible physiological limitations, and the potential to be damaged goods, which is how Daniel's is being described by some and correctable issues such as the footwork drawbacks of Maye's. Sounds as though some believe Daniels will not survive in the NFL. That he is too frail. We know what happened to RG3 because he did not know how to protect himself. But RG3 was also a super stubborn personality IMO and did not make certain adjustments. I wonder based upon what Daniel's has learned in his long college career, and the adjustments he made in terms of his conditioning and adding muscle, if some of that won't transfer over to the NFL. He needed to put on more weight and muscle. He has a good arm and can make the throws. Honestly, I would be happy with either Maye or Daniels.

I really do not give a hoot what "the league" says or does. They have gotten it wrong before. Fields is simply not bad as he is being made out to be. It was absurd to believe that Fields would produce on a high level based upon what he had around him. His receiving corp. alone was suspect. Byron Pringle? N'Keal Harry? Velus Jones? Really? Come on now. And on top of that they had two head coaching changes I believe and a GM change, all in the span of 3 years. That is a **** show. When a team has issues, rather than looking at all the parts and assessing them individually, typically the new HC and GM just want their own QB. Finally, last year when they got him DJ Moore and he was healthy there was improvement in Fields game. Why was DJ Moore politicking for him? Because he knows the talent is there. In this FA alone they acquired Keenan Allen, Cole Kmet and running back D'Andre Swift and TE Gerald Everett and decided to send him packing.

Okay so we both watched him a ton. I know what I saw, just like you, and what struck me, in particular, was the fact that his receivers, with the exception of DJ Moore, could not get open. And here they are in FA loading up skill- players like Allen. And like I said, I have no idea what they are going to do, but I do not know he is not as bad as you are making him out to be.

How much did you watch the Bears personally last year? I do not know what the Bears are doing. I sure don't. But if you look at their roster and what they have done in this FA, they should have done that for Fields. That is my main point.

I think Justin Field's is undervalued. First of all, I was stuck watching a lot of Bears football last year because a relative who is a die-hard fan, moved nearby. He has a great setup, so I got to watch number of games. So, what I noticed about Fields, with the exception of DJ Moore, last year, his receiving corp. was puny. It had no depth or quality to it. He really forced things in the first half of the season. Now here in FA in the last 72 hours the Bears have picked up more receivers to bolster their offense than ever. Fields is very talented but as DJ Moore pointed out, he needs more weapons to be successful. Moore did not have to support him but maybe he sees what some of us do. Fields is dynamic. What I noticed is he is very talented but had so little around him, and with a few adjustments to what they did have last year he had a solid 2nd half of the season, and Moore helped tremendously. And so now maybe they could be stocking up the cupboard for Williams, but they would be smarter imo with a QB needy team, and stock their roster even more and roll with Fields. And I think they would be super competitive this year.

Let me say this about the Bears. I think they did more over the last 72 hours to address their puny offense at the receiver position than ever before in this FA. IMO Fields is underappreciated. Personally, and I know I am in the minority, the Bears should keep Fields, trade down and build their roster. DJ Moore coming out a couple of months ago and saying Fields is the one to keep, he just needs more weapons, is being proven right now in FA. I had to watch Justin Fields a lot last year visiting a family member who moved into the area who is a diehard Bears fan. If you are just looking at stats or him trying to make something happen because of a limited offense last year, again Moore was the only true reliable, well I have to say he is undervalued.

For years I wondered when are they going to get some linebackers that are decent. And I think of Ron Rivera. The guy was here for 4 years, is a former LB himself, and he did nothing to address the position. And Peters addresses it in what 48 hours? Bobby Wagner will be 34 when the season starts but guess what? Even at the tail end of his career he is a 100% improvement to any player we have had at LB. And he is a leader. I am so excited for this season.

I think it is a solid strategy to sign some of these guys to short term deals loaded with incentives.