Califan007 The Constipated

Came here to say the same thing...

I guess I have to spell it out. It's not that sports are important to trans kids. It's that inclusion in society is important to trans kids. Excluding trans kids from every day parts of just living life has a huge effect. And sorry, but the realities are that sports are not some isolated area of exclusion...it's part of the entire fabric of how and in what ways society is wanting to acknowledge the trans community. It all goes hand in hand with each other. It's like the argument against a "separate but equal" society...not the Constitutional argument but the basic argument that you can still have equality in society and also have full segregation. No. You can't.

When it comes to interpreting her point, you absolutely missed it. By a mile. You're doing exactly what she specifically says we should NOT be doing when it comes to this topic.

Holy ****...wow. She thinks sports concerns don't matter because trans kids are killing themselves...not because there aren't enough trans kids taking spots from other kids on sports teams. That's why she says "think what are we actually talking about here. We’re talking about people’s lives." How in the world are you completely missing that point?

I said you were wrong about Rapinoe's point...what the **** does anyone else's point have to do with that? Stay focused. And here, to help you better understand Rapinoe's point: "And I think people also need to understand that sports is not the most important thing in life, right? Life is the most important thing in life. And so much of this trans inclusion argument has been put through the extremely tiny lens of elite sports. Like that is not the way that we need to be framing this question. We’re talking about kids. We’re talking about people’s lives. I would also encourage everyone out there who is afraid someone’s going to have an unfair advantage over their kid to really take a step back and think what are we actually talking about here. We’re talking about people’s lives. I’m sorry, your kid’s high school volleyball team just isn’t that important. It’s not more important than any one kid’s life." - Megan Rapinoe, from the same article that tweet was taken from.

- You must not have read past my first sentence. This came afterwards: "She doesn't start off with her point..." - As far as I can tell, Rapinoe isn't posting on this thread. So it doesn't matter if it's mentioned over and over on this thread. We are talking about the point of someone who isn't posting here.

Not even remotely do I think you're accurate. She doesn't start off with her point...She starts off building her case by talking about things that back up her point. Which is: "We really need to kind of take a step back and get a grip on what we're really talking about here because people's lives are at risk." And then for the people in the back, she adds at the end: "We're putting everything through God forbid a trans person be successful in sports." Meaning, we're focusing on the wrong thing. We need to focus on what's truly important here--and success in sports is NOT it. That was her point.

If this were true Pence wouldn't have been so adamant about staying at the Capitol building and making sure Biden was certified. The riot would have provided perfect cover.

I nominated this tweet for the Didn't Happen of the Year award lol...

And 60% of those polled felt the Jan 6 hearings have been fair and impartial.

For them--and this has been underscored by Trump's time in office--the accusation is all that matters. They get off on the accusations and then try and shoehorn "facts" into their narrative to present it as proof and evidence. So because of that, we end up with pedophilia and human sacrifices in pizza parlor basements, hundreds of thousands of republican mail-in ballots found in trash cans, a plane full of Antifa dressed in all-black headed for BLM protests, and teachers around the country actively grooming 2nd graders by bringing in drag queens and teaching them about gay oral sex. Then it gets disseminated via wacked-out message board sites...which then gets tweeted, re-tweeted and facebooked...which then gets a bunch of shallow thinkers all excited because the accusation is all that matters to them and seeing those accusations on Twitter and Facebook somehow gives the accusations validity...which then gets GOP politicians giddy because they can use these accusations and the excitement caused in those shallow thinkers to their advantage, whether it be grifting them for money or taking out their political rivals for the purpose of gaining power. And it's obvious. Well, to most of us.

"Kill all gay people? Really? Can you cite that?because that is complete bull****. " (is given citations of public figures advocting killing gays) "...at the other end of the spectrum you’ve got the “I’m a 400lb man who identifies as a lesbian and enjoys banging farm animals, celebrate me!” crowd." (asked for citation of anyone saying they want to be celebrated for having sex with farm animals)

That was fantastic lol...

Can you show me where anyone said they love having sex with farm animals and want to be celbrated because of it?...I'll wait. And, no, having a drag queen story time is not the same as "I have sex with farm animals, celebrate me!" However: GOP lawmaker Mike Hill slammed for joking about killing gays Republican state Rep. Mike Hill of Pensacola joked and laughed about a constituent’s comment that gay people should be put to death, according to the Pensacola News Journal, drawing harsh backlash against Hill from across the state on Friday. According to a News Journal transcript of the audio recording, which the paper said was released by Women for Responsible Legislation, someone at the May 23 meeting at Pensacola City Hall said to Hill, “In 1 Corinthians, it says that a man who has an affair with another man will be put to death.” Hill replied, “It says that in the Old Testament, too.” Another attendee then asked, “Can you introduce legislation?” There is some laughter, and Hill finally replied, “I wonder how that would go over?” *************** Candidates won't call out host citing death for gays Three Republican presidential candidates spoke at a forum in Des Moines this month hosted by a pastor who raved approvingly that the Bible justifies killing gay people — “and I am not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ.” But neither Texas Sen. Ted Cruz (since endorsed by Iowa’s Congressman Steve King) nor Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal nor former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee rebutted Kevin Swanson incendiary statements. On a video of the event aired on The Rachel Maddow Show, you can hear applause and whistles from the audience. Swanson goes on to say he doesn’t “advocate for our civil leaders to do this (impose the death penalty on gays) today” because dying itself isn't a big deal, though burning in hell, where gay people are bound, is. He says he would give them time to repent. Calls and emails seeking a reaction to Swanson's remarks by spokespeople for Cruz and Jindal (who suspended his campaign Tuesday) went unanswered. Huckabee’s spokeswoman Alice Stewart asked for documentation and was sent a video link. She responded the next day saying, "Gov. Huckabee appreciated the opportunity to speak with an audience in Iowa about the importance of standing up for our religious liberties." *************** Tea Party Candidate Says It's OK To Stone Gays To Death Scott Esk, a Republican Tea Party candidate in Oklahoma, got into a debate on Facebook last summer in which he advocated killing homosexuals. “I think we would be totally in the right to do it,” Esk wrote in comments uncovered by Oklahoma journalist Rob Morris. “That goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and I’m largely libertarian, but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss.” When pressed, Esk added: "I never said I would author legislation to put homosexuals to death, but I didn’t have a problem with it." *************** Gubernatorial candidate calls for ‘firing squad’ for Trans rights supporters Former Mississippi State Representative Robert Foster, a Republican who had served from January 5, 2016 until January 7, 2020 representing House District 28 in Northwestern Mississippi approximately 23 miles south of Memphis, Tennessee, tweeted out last week that it was his conviction that transgender people and their allies need to be shot dead by firing squad. Foster, who campaigned for the governor’s chair in 2019 lists himself on his Twitter bio as a “Man of Faith, and Constitutional Conservative.”

The difference is the religious “kill all gays and jail all parents of trans kids, let me control who you have sex with” zealots are actually running for office (and have allies already in place).