BayouBrave86

Just now, redskinss said:

 Fair enough, I think they're both good comparisons and daniels career could go either way.

 

100% agree. Boom potential is a Lamar that can actually sling the rock and that type of player is taking the NFL by storm. Worst case is he gets injured and fizzles out quickly. 

Just now, mac8887 said:

The pushback here would be that he had a good year his first year at LSU 16 pass tds, 11 rush tds, to only 3 ints, while completing over 70% of his passes.

 

What he did last year was closer to amazing than good. 40 pass tds, 10 rush tds, to only 4 ints while completing over 70% of his passes.

 

It's not like he was a 1 year wonder. While you'd like to see more than 16 passing tds in a season, while adding the 11 rushing tds to only 3 picks while completing over 70% of his passes, I think we can all agree that it is a good season.

 

 

It’s basically the same story as Burrow. First year getting acclimated to the new system and then LIFT OFF the second season. Saw flashes of his ability his first season at LSU against Florida and Alabama and everyone was praying that he could put it together for a full season and we would win a national title and he would probably win the Heisman. Did the majority of us anticipate him taking that leap like Burrow did? No, not really if I’m being honest. It’s so frustrating we had the worst defense in my lifetime to pair with the historic season last year. I was extremely frustrated with Jayden his first season because he didn’t trust his receivers. But he was also throwing to Boutte too and come to find out that guy was betting on games But he proved me and a lot of others wrong. 

I think the best comparison to Daniels is Lamar. He’s probably going to sustain injured like Lamar if we are being honest, but he is also Gumby like in that he is a rubber band man.  

1 minute ago, Chris 44 said:

Dont think RG3 was damaged goods until we got hold of him.

Tore his ACL his sophomore year and missed the season. 

2 minutes ago, redskinss said:

And I'm also still a little gun shy on a slightly undersized quarterback with good but questionable arm talent, electric leg talent who had one good year in a tough conference and won the Heisman trophy as a result. 

 

The parallels between daniels and rg3 are all there.

 

Doesn't mean they'll have the same career arc but it scares me is all.

Can certainly understand your concern. He is 6’4 though just slight of build. Go look at Lamar while at Louisville. One thing I will say is JD5 isn’t damaged goods coming out of college like RG3 was. I think Penix is the closest comparison to RG3. Insane talent but a huge injury risk. 

JB is incredibly underrated. Definitely think he would be a great mentor to whichever QB is drafted. 

Just now, mistertim said:

 

Come off it, you're not fooling anyone. Your first post after renouncing your fanship was in the draft thread saying that Jayden Daniels was going to be a better Lamar Jackson. Stop pretending like it had to do with the ownership change.

 I’ll still be here even if they don’t draft Daniels, sorry to disappoint you. I’ll be stoked with Maye as well. 

Just now, mistertim said:

 

He's an LSU fan, so that's his tribe and he's sticking to it. Once we don't draft Daniels he'll disappear again. His last post before Daniels was on the radar was saying he was done as a fan when we changed the name and would mostly watch Bengals games from now on. 

Yep and I did step away but then we got new ownership. A day I thought I’d never see. The name still needs to change to something else, but I’ll save that discussion for the name change thread.

A lot of people stepped away over the last few years in case you haven’t noticed. 

9 minutes ago, Conn said:

*glances up at username*
 

This is an unbiased source everybody, it checks out. Take notes. 

 I’ve only been backing up my stance with..*checks notes*…facts. 

6 minutes ago, redskinss said:

 

How did this get so tribal?

 

I'm cracking up because I don't really care who we get and just want a top notch franchise quarterback and don't give a rats behind who that ends up being although I admittedly have leanings toward maye in thinking he's the more likely of the two.

 

Some around here are so set in their opinions that they're really starting to suck all the fun out of what should be a really fun time in our fandom.

 

I think we get a winner with Maye or Daniels. Each QB has their own issues and that’s what makes the speculation fun. Again I’m just here to dispel some of the false narratives being thrown around and bring actual stats to the conversation. Have I been a bit pompous about it? Yeah, but I also get annoyed when people just make up stuff on the fly. But that’s the internet I guess. This entire fanbase is broken after the last 30 years and I don’t remember this board being so hostile back in the early 2000s. 

5 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

NFL defenders are going to murder the young man. Doubt he makes it to week 1.

Yeah just like the SEC murdered him

I’m cracking up because all the Daniels detractors can do is try and respond with sarcastic and “witty” responses with pictures that are 3+ years old. It’s hard to argue against facts so I guess that is all they’re left with. And if you’re letting a few message board posters turn you against the young man, maybe you need to step back and reevaluate some things. 

1 hour ago, UK Skins said:

I really don't want us taking Daniels, purely because of the ridiculous levels of hype (and sheer defensiveness) of his fans on here. I get that College football is big over there but from someone with no axe to grind it's just childish. If anyone posts anything remotely critical of him there's instantly three or four people leaping to his defence. It's just so over the top.  

 you don’t want to draft a QB because a few fans are going back and forth?

also one side is using facts while the other side is just going off their personal feels and posting stuff that is just flat out incorrect

Literally have provided two videos for you to watch with your own two eyes yet you continue to try and discredit the facts and video I’ve provided here. It really is bizarre the false narratives and assumptions being made in this thread with literally no facts to back up.  And when I hit y’all with facts you still fail to believe what’s in front of you. 

2 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

Interesting. Did he provide a source for this? I've been watching cutups of Daniels and I'm trying to figure out where these 2nd level and middle of the field numbers are coming from because I'm not see many of them on tape.

 

I just re-watched all of his plays vs Alabama and I counted 3 passes over the middle and 1 tight window out of 24 attempts.

Watch the video I posted earlier in this thread. Here is Nabers highlights from this season…ton of crossing routes

2 minutes ago, ThatNFLChick said:

Let's compile all the things Kingsbury said today about the QB

 

 

https://www.nola.com/sports/lsu/lsu-qb-jayden-daniels-transformed-into-heisman-contender/article_dafe6048-7932-11ee-bb05-572fcd77fa53.amp.html
 

Always the first one in the building. 

5 minutes ago, ST_DaGoat21 said:

@BayouBrave86 I have actually already watched your 52 min all 22 video.  But I’m not sure you have because all it does re-iterate that he doesn’t throw over the middle.

Uh huh sure you have. This will

summarize the season for you. 

https://x.com/LonnPhillips/status/1728786597322064182?s=20

Just now, SkinsFTW said:

 

Get your Crow Recipe's ready fellas! This incessant debate will be interesting about a year from now when 1-2 of these top3 QB's bust. 

I can’t wait

3 hours ago, Warhead36 said:

Daniels had high accuracy #s because he was throwing to guys who are wide open. He has two WRs going #1 overall and an outstanding OL. He's not gonna have WRs running that open in the NFL. Using raw statistics like that to project college prospects to the pros is silly. Remember even Dwayne Haskins had 50 TDs in college and an insane completion %. How'd that work out?(may he rest in peace)He's a one read and go QB who doesn't consistently make tight, anticipatory throws into coverage. You gotta make your money down the middle of the field in the NFL and Daniels struggles in that area(doesn't mean he can't improve, but the track record historically is not great).

 

His floor is lower because so much of his game is his mobility and you're banking on him developing pro passing ability to compliment that running style which, historically, does not happen. Also, run first QBs tend to fade quick. That isn't even factoring in Daniels's body type increasing his chance of injury or the fact that he's an older prospect, reducing his window even more.

 

On the flip side, Maye's style of play translates very well to the pros. And his size/overall build means his chances of getting hurt are less. Of course nothing is guaranteed, Luck was a big guy too and got hurt a lot. He can come in and at the very least be in that league average tier because he'll always be able to sustain passing offense with his ability to make throws downfield.

There you go again just making up a false narrative for Daniels. I’m convinced you watched 0 of his games. Can say that about a few others in this thread too. 

1 hour ago, ST_DaGoat21 said:

You can watch for yourself.  I counted 2 balls over the middle the entire game.  One was dropped and one sailed over the wr.  

 

To me Daniels is an anorexic version of Trey Lance.  Lance had a ton of TDS in college and only 1 int because he just threw go routes and never had to throw into tight windows.  Lance also was a one read and take off qb.  I don’t care how pretty your deep ball is, it’s not something that is sustainable in the NFL.  Neither is scrambling every other play.

 what?? Lance is no where near the QB that Daniels is. Give me a break. You’re going to put Daniels worst game as his highlight reel. FSU defense shut him down in the second half but LSU was driving up and down the field at will in the first half and should’ve been up comfortably at half. How about you share some Jayden highlights from other games? 
 

educate yourself with this:

JJ is a poor man’s Daniel Jones. Whatever GM is dumb enough to draft him the first round is likely going to get fired in the next 3-4 years lol

I just don’t see Jayden failing at the next level outside of having it derailed by injuries. And yeah LSU has an elite S&C program but every player bulks up once they get to the NFL and that’s what I mean by that. I trust S&C will get him to where he needs to be for some of the wear and tear of the league. 
 

I think he is going to interview extremely well at the combine and ends up running a sub 4.4 which starts the first overall talk a little.  He is as humble as they come. 

Fields is absolute TRASH. He has legit accuracy issues. So depressing if that bum is brought to Washington. 

If this team drafts Marvin at 2 with these 3 QBs, welll…I don’t even think my brain could fathom that. It would be so incredibly stupid. Marvin is an elite receiver but he isn’t some generational talent at WR. It could be argued he isn’t even the best WR in this draft. If this team trades up to one with a kings ransom or drafts Marvin at 2, it’ll show we are living in a replay of the last 30 years. 
 

old regime tries to stack Bama players on defense and new regime tries to stack OSU players on offense  

Yeah, what would I know? I only watch every LSU game. 
 

anyway I’ve said my piece with regards to Jayden and realize it probably has come off as pompous, but I’m legit stoked for the possibility we may get him and think he can be the franchise QB this team has been looking for the last 30+ years. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but there are some false narratives being thrown around. 
 

1 hour ago, mh86 said:

This is wrong. I watched some of his all 22 and it can’t be further from the truth. I said it before, but it’s not a huge negative for me since most QBs especially young ones all struggle with pressure. 
 

That being said, I think the takes on his arm strength being a knock on him are just as wrong. He can make all the necessary throws from what I saw. Also, he’s got a real quick release and it’s almost effortless watching him throw. JD is deserving of being in the conversation at #2. My biggest issue is if he’s not taking off running, he often just throws to his first read. that’s mostly due to his receivers being so good as many state which makes it harder to evaluate.

 it is not wrong. Jayden had ZERO interceptions….again, ZERO under pressure this season. He knew the perfect times to run too. He’s not quite as calm as Burrow, but the big moments never phased him. He is extremely calm. People just making up stuff in this thread. Unbelievable. 

Daniels is completely calm under pressure too and has the accuracy/release to be elite at the next level. He’s improved every single season. Yes he has to get better at protecting himself because he will not survive trying to play Superman at the next level so he had to add some lbs but I trust a NFL strength and conditioning program to get him where he needs to be. Clown on me all y’all want but even if I weren’t a LSU alum, Jayden still had a historic season and has all the tools to succeed at the next level.  I think Maye will be elite too. Penix is Mr. Glass unfortunately. I think Bo, JJ, and Caleb all end up being busts. Look forward to revisiting this thread in the future. 
 

Joe Sloan is going to turn Nussmeier into the next great QB too which is wild considering how terrible the stretch of LSU QBs had been for years.
Jayden will be a better Lamar that can actually pass.