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Wait, there's a Klein Kubiak as well as a Klint and a Klay? How much deeper does this go? Kris? Kade? Karl? Konrad? Konway? Kampbell? Kleopatra? Kharles? Do I even dare ask about their middle names?

No, what seems like a significant chunk of the fanbase doesn't want this. It isn't what I wanted. As fans, we have every right to feel that way after 30 plus years of mediocrity. A sudden end to that and return to success is something we've all been hoping/dreaming/praying for. But it's just not that easy to get it right and right first time. If it was, there wouldn't be perennial losers. The only way this goes "pitch-black with no support" is if Quinn assembles sub-par team underneath him and Peters fails to recreate the success he's had with personnel in the past. None of that has started to take shape yet and we can expect missteps along the way. Maybe they've already taken the first of those and already started off on the wrong track. But we don't know that any of the other candidates would have had better success here. We can follow their fortunes and envy those who are successful, but there's no guarantee they would have had the same success here. Each hire has walked into a different set of circumstances and their success will as much be determined by the people who surround them as the individual.

Disappointed this post didn't get any reaction at all, but this is somewhat how I feel. A football team is a vast and complex ecosystem and no one element of it alone will dictate success (OK, a top talent at quarterback covers a multitude of failings elsewhere, that much we've seen). If Quinn puts together a top staff and Peters stacks the roster with talent over the next few seasons, then winning seasons will come. Maybe Quinn doesn't give the team that edge to beat the other big contenders. Maybe he's learned valuable lessons since Atlanta and is a better version of himself. Who knows? What he does bring is the maturity and experience to see a franchise in transition through its first years under new ownership. If he doesn't succeed? Well, hopefully by then the team will have the promise of better facilities and a better stadium with which to lure candidates.

Yeah, I'm not the speculative type either. We really don't have any idea what goes on behind closed doors. Doesn't feel like we're fighting for scraps yet, but this is a blow to the excitement and hope of the start of the Harris era. Nothing is guaranteed, however. Whoever they pick might excel. Johnson may never amount to anything. Just has to play out. now.

Who from the pool of new HCs would you have taken over who is left?

Completely agree. I get being caught up in the passion of a downtrodden city that has been starved of success. But he could've got that here, too. If he didn't give an indication in his interviews that he might do this, it's even more frustrating. Still, there are candidates left and I will withhold judgement until I see the results on the field.

Also, there's no guarantee he can bring a superbowl to Detroit, especially with Goff at the helm. So how much longer does he try for and what happens when/if Campbell gets fired?

I completely respect his decision. He has to do what's right for him. At the same time, screw you Johnson for the antics.

At this point, it's not completely impossible to tie.

Pile it on!

Here's a man so beat, he can't even muster a rage. So sad, so sad.

Nice shot of an exasperated Jones there. Green Bay not bothered at all if Dallas score, they don't have an answer for this offense.

Doink again...

Definitely. Playoff football. Don't take your foot off until the final whistle.

I laughed so hard at that pick 6, that a tiny bit of wee came out.