SkinsChick36 Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Rock... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondie Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Originally posted by SkinsChick36 Rock... Excuse me? Blondie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Todd, John Simon signed for one year at $ 380k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted March 3, 2005 Author Share Posted March 3, 2005 Originally posted by inmate running the asylum Todd, John Simon signed for one year at $ 380k. Ok, so a big bag of potato chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsChick36 Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 RFA/EFA Tenders: DE - Demetric Evans S - Andre Lott QB - Tim Hasselbeck RB - Rock Cartwright Originally posted by Blondie Excuse me? Blondie I said that b/c i want him to be on the team...not a restricted free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted March 3, 2005 Author Share Posted March 3, 2005 Originally posted by SkinsChick36 RFA/EFA Tenders: DE - Demetric Evans S - Andre Lott QB - Tim Hasselbeck RB - Rock Cartwright I said that b/c i want him to be on the team...not a restricted free agent. SC, Those RFAs are players to whom we have tendered offers, so we have the right to match any contract offers they get. Besides, I'm kinda doubtful he'll get any offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Fox also has a player movement tracker. Here it is for the NFC East: NFC East Off-Season Player Tracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonsofwashington Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Pierce is gone! I'm one pissed of Redskin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevzy88va Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Pierce is gone? In the Post today i read that he hadn't signed yet but was given an offer by the giants! He said that he would give the Skins the better hand and would wait to see if they were gonna match the giants deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Originally posted by stevzy88va Pierce is gone? In the Post today i read that he hadn't signed yet but was given an offer by the giants! He said that he would give the Skins the better hand and would wait to see if they were gonna match the giants deal. They ain't gonna match it according to Gibbs. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugs' Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Thanks for this Todd...I appreciate it Do we have the parameters of Patten's contract? I like both our signings of Rabach and Patten....good job FO! Losing Pierce stings a bit but I think he was more a product of the system....:2cents: I think it is important to keep Smoot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 Originally posted by Bugs' Thanks for this Todd...I appreciate it Do we have the parameters of Patten's contract? I like both our signings of Rabach and Patten....good job FO! Losing Pierce stings a bit but I think he was more a product of the system....:2cents: I think it is important to keep Smoot.... Actually, Nunyo just posted them in the WP article that runs tomorrow. Of course, Nunyo isn't always right... I updated the first post, its 5 years, 13 mill, 3.5 million dollar SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsChick36 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Thanks for the little bit of knowledge Zen-like:) Patten is a good sign for you he is a farily sturdy reciever...800 yards recieving 7 TD's ZERO FUMBLES he is also very experienced {8 years} and could teach our young guys.... cheers to the Front Office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartskins Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Thanks for tracking this ZLT. I'd much rather go to this thread once that try to move through the morass in FedEx right now. 4444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfriedm Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 RFA/EFA Tenders:DE - Demetric Evans S - Andre Lott QB - Tim Hasselbeck RB - Rock Cartwright LB - Chris Clemons K - Jeff Chandler DE - Ron Warner So these guys have signed a tender, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondie Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 Originally posted by jrfriedm So these guys have signed a tender, yes? I don't know about the others. Rock has not signed his yet. Blondie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins_Slave Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 So what do you guys think our chances are of drafting Mike Williams are? I say if he isnt to be had we trade down and hopefully pick up a 2nd rounder.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrunkin Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Originally posted by Blondie I don't know about the others. Rock has not signed his yet. Blondie Does he have to sign his tender? What happens if he doesn't? Does he get cut, hold out or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondie Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Originally posted by SkinsCrunkin Does he have to sign his tender? What happens if he doesn't? Does he get cut, hold out or what? He doesn't HAVE to sign it. I am NOT saying he won't. A tender offer to RFAs allows other teams to look at them, make an offer if they so choose, and then the Redskins can match it or not. IF a RFA does get an offer from another team, then a trade can be made and the Skins get a draft pick for that player. Rock was a 7th round pick........and he has performed for us much better than MOST 7th rounders. Blondie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggins44 Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 I hope Rock signs with us. What worries me is the numbers game. Come august some cuts will be due to the cap. Blondie is correct, he has been better than a 7th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Gibbz Rulez!!! Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Excerpt from Peter King - Monday Morning QB on SI.com: "Liked: The Giants wrangled Antonio Pierce from Washington. Not only did the Giants get just what they needed -- a playmaking, young middle linebacker to key Tim Lewis' 4-3 defense -- but they diminished the star power of the best defense in the NFC East. Sometimes it's not who you sign, it's who you sign the player away from. Gregg Williams' outstanding Washington defense won't collapse without its centerpiece, but the 'Skins likely won't be able to find a sideline-to-sideline playmaker who, quietly, had a season nearly the equal of James Farrior or Donnie Edwards last year." We were all talking about how we still needed to add to our defense, even as impressive as it was last year. So, how do we let our conference rival take away one of our best players? That's retarded...:2cents: Also... "Didn't like: Washington, even with a smart guy like Joe Gibbs running the show, still seems like a team lurching from one cap mess to the next. Other than Peyton Manning, no NFL player will make as much cash in 2004. Two years ago, Laveranues Coles was the cat's meow. Now he's just another $9.3 million cap mess to clean up. I noticed the Redskins seemed to be congratulating themselves on having Santana Moss and David Patten starting at receiver in 2005. Why? Moss was a perennial disappointment with the Jets; how will 'Skins fans react the first time he runs out of bounds away from contact instead of trying to make four more yards? Patten was the fourth receiver on a Patriots' team with no receiving star. Lord help Patrick Ramsey." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Need to update the front with the Smoot Loss. Edit: you also have: FB - Mike Sellars, awaiting terms and H-back- Mike Sellers, three year deal? Aren't these one and the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted March 9, 2005 Author Share Posted March 9, 2005 I'm in denial over Smoot. Give me a few days. Also, I dont remember putting that FB - Mike Sellars entry in. I'm guessing that a mod stuck it in before I added the Mike Sellers entry, and I never noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonsofwashington Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Whoa. WAWAWAWAHAT! We lost Smoot! I figured but did this really happen. Shoooooting to the message board after jumping here from an email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 Todd, Here is an update for you. 1) You should date your posts to let people know how recent it has been updated ......... such as "Last Updated........." etc. Otherwise, the old geezers like Bulldog and WCO (not west coast offense -- but west coast omellete) get confused. :laugh: 2) It would also be more informative IMHO if you also showed an annual breakdown of the player's yearly salary. I'll show you what I keep on my harddrive. This info is available from NFLPA.org You are never going to be able to keep perfect records on these contracts, because a lot of the information is not published or changes, such as roster bonuses, etc. Lemar Marshall - 3 yrs @ $ 2 Mil + escalators - $ 400k? SB [455k - .577k - 600k] = only equals $ 1.632M John Simon - 1 yr @ $ 380k [380k] Chris Samuels - 7 yrs @ $ 46.5 million - $ 15.75 SB - $ 19 Mil is guaranteed [800k - 1.0 - 2.45 - 4.5 - 5.0 - 6.5 - 7.5] = only $ 43.75 About $ 3M in roster bonuses unaccounted for in total? Ethan Albright - 1 yrs @ $790k - $ 25k SB [765k] = only counts $ 480k against the cap Casey Rabach - 6 yrs @ $13.75 Mil ? - $ 2.5 SB + $ 2.0 RB guaranteed - 6th year voidable - really 5 yrs @ $ 13.7 [540k - 545 - 2.75 - 2.75 - 2.75 - 3.115] = only $ 12.450 David Patten - 5 yrs @ $ 13.75 million - $ 3.5 SB [665k - 1.085 - 1.250 - 1.5 - 2.0] = only $ 6.5M RB $3.75? Santana Moss - 1 year remaining on Jet contract [448k] Mike Sellers - 3 yrs @ $ 1.955 Mil - $ 200k SB [540k - 545 - 670] Cedric Killings - 1 yr. @ $ 540k [540k ] RFA's like Cartwright, Evans, Hasselbeck, Ron Warner, and Andre Lott were tendered $ 656,000 which counts against the cap, although they have not signed these contracts. Other teams have until April 15th to make them an offer. After that -- without getting -- their rights basically are retained by the Redskins. ERFA Chris Clemons was only tendered $ 380,000. ERFA Jeff Chandler.... I'm not positive about, but I think he is only entitled to a tender of $ 305,000 based on accrued seasons. Restructured contracts: 1) R. Wynn 2-17-05 Restructured contract 2005: Base salary of $3.5 million lowered to $665,000 2006: Base salary of $4.0 million lowered to $1.0 million 2007: Base salary of $4.0 million lowered to $2.0 million 2) P. Ramsey 2-18-05 Restructured contract 2005: Base salary of $1.602 million lowered to the 4th-year minimum of $455,000 2006: Base salary of $1.188 million INCREASED to $1.688M 3) J. Jansen 2-18-05 Restructured contract 2005: Base salary of $2.000 million lowered to $ 540,000 2006: Base salary of $4.000 million remains the same. 2007: Base salary of $4.250 million remains the same 2008: Base salary of $4.750 million remains the same 4) R. Thomas 2-23-05 Restructured contract 2005: Base salary of $2.600 million lowered to $ 540,000 2006: Base salary of $3.500 million remains the same. 2007: Base salary of $4.000 million remains the same 2008: Base salary of $4.500 million remains the same 2009: Base salary of $4.500 million remains the same 5) B. Noble 3-04-05 Restructured contract 2005: Base salary of $ 1.500 million lowered to $ 540,000 2006: Base salary of $ 1.700 million remains the same. 5) W. Harris 3-04-05 Restructured contract Original 3 yr. contract (2004) for $ 3.575 M - $ 750k* SB [660k - 665k - 1.5] * plus an additional 1.5 M for health incentives 2005: Escalators met, base salary rose from 665,000 to $ 1.665M 2005: Restructured: Base salary of $ 1.665 million lowered back to $ 665,000 2006: Base salary of $ 1.50 million remains the same. 6) M. Brunell 3-09-05 Restructured contract 2005: Base salary of $ 1.500 million lowered to $ 765,000 2006: Base salary of $ 4.000 million remains the same 2007: Base salary of $ 5.200 million remains the same 2008: Base salary of $ 6.400 million remains the same 2009: Base salary of $ 7.600 million remains the same 2010: Base salary of $ 8.800 million remains the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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