KevinthePRF Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 I'm on another board griping back and forth about the Charlotte Hornets relocation to New Orleans.<br /><br />Has the a franchise in the NBA, or any other league for that matter, ever been denied by it's league to relocate to another city? Not denied sale to another owner who plans to move the team as with the Timberwolves a few years ago, but denied to relocate to another city with it's present owner in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 Didn't the Eagles try to move to Pheonix before The Cards did? I'm not sure why they didn't ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins24 Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 I'm not sure Kevin. I can't recall that ever happening.<br /><br />Does anyone know why the bullets moved just 30 mins. south to DC?<br /><br />*that's the NFL henry.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn X Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 The Seattle Seahawks almost moved to Los Angeles back in the mid '90s, right after the Rams and Raiders waltzed out of town. The then-owner of the Seahawks (his name currently escapes me... but it wasn't Paul Allen) had the moving vans packed, an agreement with the city of Pasadena in place to play in the Rose Bowl till newer digs were constructed and everything. However, Paul Tagliabue, not wanting to lose the NFL's sole representative in the Pacific Northwest and figuring that the next round of expansion would surely net the City of Angels a new NFL franchise, stepped in and effectively nixed the deal by threatening to slap a prohibitively expensive "relocation fee" on the cash-strapped Seahawks' owner.<br /><br />In addition, from what I understand, in Major League Baseball any team seeking to relocate must get league-wide approval before doing so. If a certain percentage of the league's owners don't sign off on the move, the team must remain where it is. However, that's only what I've heard, so I could be wrong on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Most of the people in Los Angeles dont want any NFL team to relocate here, especially an expansion team. Most of the people are transplants from somewhere else -- and loyal to their original home town team -- and like the situation the way it is. Los Angeles is strange that way, but there are too many other weekend options, besides watching NFL football on Sunday. Instead of watching the former friggin "Hollywood Rams" or "da raduhs" all the time, most fans prefer to see the best matchup games each Sunday.<br /> <br /> <small>[ April 11, 2002, 05:00 AM: Message edited by: inmate running the asylum ]</small> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn X Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Comedian Bill Maher once said, "Men are only as loyal as their options." I believe the same applies to Los Angelenos. Folks love to talk about what a great sports town Green Bay is and how much they support their Packers. Puhleeze. Like there's anything to do in Green Bay, WI but get jazzed for the damn Packers. From a sports marketing standpoint, L.A. is a city with almost too many distractions. Why would any smart, discriminating person fork over their hard-earned dough to see a team as sorry as the Rams were under Georgia Frontiere and John Shaw's stewardship back in the '80s and early '90s when Disneyland, the beach and a multitude of other vastly more entertaining options beckoned.<br /><br />However, the bottom line is this: If Tags would've put aside this obsession he has with public-private partnerships, L.A. would have an NFL team right now. Former Disney exec Michael Ovitz had put together a very nice package for the NFL, whereby he and his privately funded ownership group would purchase a parcel of undeveloped land in Carson, CA and build a new state-of-the-art stadium upon it, footing virtually all of the expenses themselves. But Tagliabue wanted the state of California to kick in some capital (i.e. taxpayer money) on the project. Ultimately, it was this stipulation that sank the deal. Tags apparently didn't understand that Californians break out in f*cking hives at the mere mention of the "t-word." And considering the array of exorbitant taxes that Californians pay to the Golden State, I certainly can't blame them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Eventually Los Angeles will have another NFL team sooner or later. The Los Angeles television market is just too big, not to be represented. Hopefully it will be much later, as most of the transplants here could care less, and will not adopt a new team. <br /><br />Most fans here -- as I do -- continue to pull for their home town teams. Even when the Rams and Raiders played here, they didnt really have a home field advantage most of the time, because so many transplants attended the games pulling for their home team. <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /><br />There has been no great outcry here for an NFL team since the Rams and Raiders blew town. Good riddance! <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ April 11, 2002, 06:00 AM: Message edited by: inmate running the asylum ]</small> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 "L.A. is a city with almost too many distractions." - Glenn X<br /><br />I like this. Here's a guy from Las Vegas talking about the distractions in LA! <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="smile.gif" /> Have to agree, though.<br /><br />How's life in Sin City, Glenn? It's my favorite vacation spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Wouldn't the media just love a pro franchise in Vegas. Distractions in Vegas Brave? NNNaaaaah. <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br />My mother and one of my brothers live in Vegas....way too close to the strip. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn X Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 Notice that I said "almost" about L.A., Brave. However, Vegas is definitely the city with too many distractions. That's why the Las Vegas Thunder folded up shop. I mean, what would you rather spend your money on, lackluster minor league hockey games or lap dances at Lil' Darlings? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <br /><br />How's life in Sin City? Depends on what time of year it is. If it's the late fall, winter or early spring, it's great. Which is to say, the weather's great. However, if it's the late spring, summer (which is THE ABSOLUTE WORST) or early fall, it sucks. It sucks bad. It's way too damn hot. Fry an egg on the sidewalk hot. Nuclear f*cking explosion hot.<br /><br />Everything else here is all relative to me. I've lived here all my life, so I'm pretty much enured to the allure of The Strip and all.<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wouldn't the media just love a pro franchise in Vegas.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, according to Fred "Accuracy in Reporting" Edelstein, Al Davis, fed up with Oakland, almost moved the Raiders to Vegas a couple years back. <img border="0" alt="[laugh]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh.gif" /> <br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My mother and one of my brothers live in Vegas....way too close to the strip.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">For their sake, I hope you don't mean the so-called "Naked City" area behind the Stratosphere. That area makes Blade Runner look like Singin' in the Rain. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ April 12, 2002, 02:24 AM: Message edited by: Glenn X ]</small> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinthePRF Posted April 12, 2002 Author Share Posted April 12, 2002 Thanks guys for the help, and the "everything you wanted to know" info on the west coast.<br /><br />----------------------------------<br />Absolutely useless movie trivia: In Star Trek IV the Voyage Home, there is a scene where Chekov and Uhura are in the streets of San Francisco asking for directions to Alameda. That was not a set. The scene was shot impromptu with a hidden video camera with real pedestrians passing by, not actors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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