Henry Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 ... about a hand I was in last night. I've been kicking it around in my head ever since: The game was NL Hold'em, $25 buy-in, .25¢ and .50¢ blinds. I've got about $33 by this time. I was in the BB with wired jacks. I get four limpers to me, so I bet $3. Jacks get cracked easily so I was trying to force the draws out right there. Well, everyone folds except the Big Stack. He's got about $55. He's fairly loose/aggressive, but he (obviously) wins more than he loses. He goes all in. What do you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 I'm the more cautious type. If he's going all in with $55, then chances are he's got something. Even if he can't beat you, a pair isn't enough to go all in on, unless you have a great read on the guy and can tell he's got crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Duckus Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 You have to call. You have a top starting hand and the only cards that you can worry about are AA, KK, QQ or AK. I am pretty sure those 4 hands are the only ones that are statistically better/even with your chances. I mean you might loose, but you have the odds in your favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyalligator Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 How many people were in the hand when it was dealt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 It was a ring game. 10 hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 I think he wanted to know how many were in at the time... it was just you and the other guy, right? Anyway, if the guy plays loose but still wins, he's not the kind of guy you mess with when he goes all in. True, you can't play conservative when he's got the big stack, and you eventually have to take him down, but a pair of Jacks isn't the hand to do it with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by Henry ... about a hand I was in last night. I've been kicking it around in my head ever since: The game was NL Hold'em, $25 buy-in, .25¢ and .50¢ blinds. I've got about $33 by this time. I was in the BB with wired jacks. I get four limpers to me, so I bet $3. Jacks get cracked easily so I was trying to force the draws out right there. Well, everyone folds except the Big Stack. He's got about $55. He's fairly loose/aggressive, but he (obviously) wins more than he loses. He goes all in. What do you do? Henry can you speak english for us rookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyalligator Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Okay...what the heck does the term limpers mean? Is there a possible straight draw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyalligator Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 I actually happen to be playing right now and in the past 1/2 hour have built $25 into $210 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyalligator Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Play money of course...but I play the same way as I would with real money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 Someone who merely calls the big blind without raising it is 'limping in.' Generally it's considered a weak play by someone with a marginal hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 If you have a pair of jacks, and there's nothing higher in the flop/the draws don't look too solid, then yea. If there's a king on the board with a few connecter cards, then be afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman56 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Gotta go all in. That's poker, baby. Take your shots when you can. That being said, I hate pocket Jacks. It seems to get beaten when it shouldn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Funkyalligator, do you play partypoker.com or another place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyalligator Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Party poker right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 the only problem with NL on partypoker, is people play every darn hand..they could have 7-2 off suit and hit something down the line...obnoxious. I like the PL a little better. It seems like there are better players there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by BDBuddy23 If you have a pair of jacks, and there's nothing higher in the flop/the draws don't look too solid, then yea. If there's a king on the board with a few connecter cards, then be afraid. Ah, but this was pre-flop. Not only that, the guy limped in initially and then went all in over the top of my raise. To me that's the same as a check-raise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by Henry Ah, but this was pre-flop. Not only that, the guy limped in initially and then went all in over the top of my raise. To me that's the same as a check-raise. did he have a pair of something?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by BDBuddy23 the only problem with NL on partypoker, is people play every darn hand..they could have 7-2 off suit and hit something down the line...obnoxious. I like the PL a little better. It seems like there are better players there. Everyone plays loose with play money. Doesn't matter what site you're on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 oooh....pre-flop is scary..see, that seems weird...cuase he and you would be going in BLIND the whole way...he HAD to have something....unless he was just throwing his high stack weight around. that IS a tough one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma did he have a pair of something?? Dunno. If I knew that, I'd know whether or not to call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by Henry Dunno. If I knew that, I'd know whether or not to call. now I am lost did you fold then, what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip to my lou Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 How does this hand turn out?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Duckus Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 I still don’t understand why you guys would be scared to call? You have JJ on the pre-flop that is the 4th best hand you can start with. I believe the top ten are 1) AA 2) KK 3) QQ 4) JJ 5) AK suited 6) AQ suited 7) TT 8) AK 9) AJ suited 10) KQ You have to call no question. He can only have 3 hands that are statically better than you on pre-flop. If you are not going to go one on one with him in that hand, when would you? That is a prefect time to take down the table leader. If you loose, you loose...but it is not a bad call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 Yeah, but against a higher pair you're practically drawing dead. And he's certainly representing a higher pair with that bet. Anyway, I folded it. But I've been second-guessing the decision ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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