Brave Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 The WSOP 2004 is going on right now in Vegas. They are on the last event, "No Limit Hold 'Em" (which you'll be seeing for the next year on ESPN.) Interestingly, last year it was said that poker "exploded" because there were over 800 entries in this event. What are they going to say about THIS year? Entries at $10K a piece: 2576 Total purse: Over $24 million 1st place prize: $5 million 2nd place prize: $3.5 million 3rd place prize: $2.5 million The top 6 finishers will get $1 million or more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Hey Charles... there's a championship poker tournament being played on THE LEARNING NETWORK this week.. I don't get that channel.... but is someone who's watching it willing to tape it for me if I reimburse the expenses? I really want to watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Note: 5th place get $1.1 mil. Make to 180th, you land a profit. Make it to 225th place, you break even. "This year, ESPN will film final table action at 13 of the World Series' tournaments. All that film will be shipped back to New York and edited into 22 shows that will air on the cable sports network beginning in June. The network aired seven programs from last year's World Series, all of them from the final tournament event." Twenty-two shows? For poker? Craziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
du7st Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Any word when WSOP 2k4 will be shown on ESPN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 I might be able to help you out there. I have a DVR and I get the learning channel. Only problem is I'd have to record onto a VHS tape. Would that work for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Originally posted by du7st Any word when WSOP 2k4 will be shown on ESPN? Tuesdays at 9pm. Starting on June 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Originally posted by Brave I might be able to help you out there. I have a DVR and I get the learning channel. Only problem is I'd have to record onto a VHS tape. Would that work for you? Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggins44 Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 I know my neighbor has gotten into playing these Texas Hold-em tournaments online. I think he is usually on Ultimate Bet.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefhogskin48 Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 My friends and I are absolutely obsessed with the World Series of Poker. When we play, I usually get the nickname "Farha," though my level of play does not do the nickname justice (I think it's just b/c I copycat Farha's sunglasses). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Posted May 25, 2004 Author Share Posted May 25, 2004 Originally posted by chiefhogskin48 My friends and I are absolutely obsessed with the World Series of Poker. When we play, I usually get the nickname "Farha," though my level of play does not do the nickname justice (I think it's just b/c I copycat Farha's sunglasses). Or maybe your level of play does reflect that name ... Sammy Farha has been eliminated. Other notables to exit early: Chris Moneymaker Paul Phillips Phil Ivey Ben Affleck Dutch Boyd TJ Cloutier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Flames Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 Johnny Chan or Scotty Nguyen....either of those guys wins, and im a happy camper, although id rather see Chan win than Nguyen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 MoneyMaker had a horseshoe up his rear-end last year. So many times he won as a 96 -4 % underdog of the hand ... Awesome name though for the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Posted May 25, 2004 Author Share Posted May 25, 2004 Originally posted by Thiebear MoneyMaker had a horseshoe up his rear-end last year. So many times he won as a 96 -4 % underdog of the hand True, but anyone who wins this event will have to get lucky more than once. This was true even when there were "only" a few hundred participants. It's a fact now ... whether an seasoned pro or an internet newbie, to win a tournament of this size you will have to win so many showdowns that luck will play a big part. Hell, I won a little mini-tournament online last week with only 1 table (10 players) and I'll bet I had to win on the draw (against the odds, as in ... I made a mistake and was lucky enough for it not to cost me) at least 2 or 3 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip to my lou Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 Any websites giving updates on the day to day action... I know Pokerstars.com is showing the final table on a semi-delayed basis HAIL TO THE REDSKINS !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 At least we get to see a lot of Norman Chad :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Posted May 25, 2004 Author Share Posted May 25, 2004 Originally posted by Skip to my lou Any websites giving updates on the day to day action... Yes. The two largest sites are probably pokerpages.com and cardplayer.com But, you can find others simply by searching "WSOP 2004 results." Some of the smaller sites actually have more in-depth and faster info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All In Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 I liked Phil Ivey's style. He wasn't to ****y. MoneyMaker was lucky several times last year, but on those last two hands against Farha he played it perfect. Farha a seasoned vet didn't call his bluff. My friends and I play about every two weeks and yes newbies and regulars win and lose almost evenly, but I'd have to say the better players win more often, and usually the big winners the majority of times. It is very much a skill game, if you don't believe me sit down with somebody who knows how to play and pony up some cash. Fun game, can't wait to play next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Posted May 25, 2004 Author Share Posted May 25, 2004 Originally posted by All In My friends and I play about every two weeks and yes newbies and regulars win and lose almost evenly, but I'd have to say the better players win more often, and usually the big winners the majority of times. It is very much a skill game, if you don't believe me sit down with somebody who knows how to play and pony up some cash. I'm not disputing that. I play live games every couple of weeks and I play online 4 or 5 days a week. I wholeheartedly believe in skill vs. luck. In a regular game, the better player will almost always win. My point in the previous post was that, in a tournament of the size of this year's WSOP, anyone who wins will have to be lucky at various times. Several times. Possibly many times. You can make the "correct" play and still have a better hand out there facing you, meaning you'll need to luck up on the draw. (And if I was anywhere near you, I'd LOVE to pony up and sit down.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 Brave's right. To win a tournament you are going to have to draw out a few times, and survive a few bad beats as well. Luck is a factor. However, at my regular table we keep track of who's won and who has lost, and how far in the black (or red) each regular is. And while everyone loses from time to time, the good players win more often than they lose, and the bad players lose more often than they win. You can only play the cards you're dealt. But you still get to decide how to play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 Here's a little bit of a spoiler, but I think it makes Brave's point perfectly. From yesterday's action: 8:20 PM 441 players remaining. Howard Lederer has been eliminated by Doyle Brunson. Brunson moved in on the flop with a flush draw, Lederer called with top set, and Brunson's draw hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symbol Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 I tried to get in with one of the tourneys that if you win, they sponser you. Obviously, because I'm still typing on this site, I didn't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Posted May 26, 2004 Author Share Posted May 26, 2004 Hadn't heard about that, Henry. :laugh: Ol' Doyle's still kickin'. With the popularity of poker right now, I wouldn't be surprised to see his life story on film in the next couple of years. (I may play with the next 10-2 I get ... just in his honor.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Posted May 26, 2004 Author Share Posted May 26, 2004 An update for those interested: 4 out of 50 "big name" players have survived through day 4 of the 2004 WSOP: Chris "Jesus" Ferguson Dan Harrington David "Devilfish" Ulliott Doyle Brunson Short scouting reports "Jesus" - usually plays conservatively until the field gets down to 2 tables, when he has the tendency to overplay marginal hands such as A9 and small pairs. Harrington - "Action Dan" is known for being a conservative player who gives very little action. "Devilfish" - A "Wily Coyote" who can change gears based on his opponents...always dangerous as long as he has chips Brunson - the man who wrote the "bible" of no limit hold'em...now plays much more conservatively than the past because opponents want to look him up every time he is in a pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklynskinsfan Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 u know its the offseason when their are world series poker threads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Posted May 26, 2004 Author Share Posted May 26, 2004 Originally posted by Brooklynskinsfan u know its the offseason when their are world series poker threads Beats baseball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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