Lavarleap56 Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 That we are trying to position ourselves to make a run at a Franchise player and we will need the extra picks. Posssible targets could include Julian Peterson , Jevon Kearse,John Abraham and cant think of anymore right now. Also the possible trade could give us more picks to go after Corey Dillon??:2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted February 4, 2004 Author Share Posted February 4, 2004 no one is thinking about peterson but he is good friends with Lavar and recently said on 980 that he would love to play with him and the skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 i think the rumor means 2 things. 1. the skins want to trade down. obviously for what ever reason whether it be money, depth, or targeting UFA's the skins want out. i think the top 5 players on everybody's board isn't really a need for this team, dline is. 2. NE wants winslow. What player could they be targeting, that is sure to be there @5? but what player is not likely to be there after 5? they could always trade for someone else in the top 10 right? not if everyone has us picking winslow. Winslow is sure to be there at 5 and the pats are only offering us the trade cuz they know we want him. they can't offer the same for the 6th or 7th pick cuz with us still on board winslow is no longer a guarantee. they run two 2 tight end sets, and i think thier offense would cream over a guy like winslow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoSkins Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I say no to Peterson because he will demand premier LB money equivilant to R.Lewis, Urlacher and Lavar. The Skins already have to sign one franchise player in Bailey. Plus, we already signed a Pro Bowl LB (Trotter) and looked how depressing he has turned out. I think that under the right consistent system, the present group of LBs can be the best in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Originally posted by lavarleap56 That we are trying to position ourselves to make a run at a Franchise player and we will need the extra picks. Posssible targets could include Julian Peterson , Jevon Kearse,John Abraham and cant think of anymore right now. Also the possible trade could give us more picks to go after Corey Dillon??:2cents: First of all I dont put much credence in this so-called "rumor" so far, because of its unreliable source. Until I read something in the WP about it or maybe Chris Mortensen or John Clayton writes it, I won't start believing it. But even so, Julian Peterson will be impossible to sign, because the 49ers have said they will not let him get away. The Jets FO hates us, so they sure as hell aren't going to trade us John Abraham, who they are planning on moving to LB. As for Kearse --assuming he is available -- we dont need draft picks to sign him. And as for Dillon, if we have to give up more than a 3rd round pick -- which we already have -- I would say that deal is kaput too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I think the real meaning of this trade rumor is that someone just threw something out there out of the blue and it took on some really long legs. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 NE will not trade up, they don't believe in spending a lot on rookies. Unless Billicheck is drooling over Taylor, then just maybe. I doubt it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 NE wants the best running back in the draft. It's their only real weakness......unless of course you think Smith and Faulk are game breakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRBFan Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I agree that Taylor might be Belichick's target. Wilson is playing out of position at safety, and adding Taylor completes that secondary. Wilson then moves back to corner where they've already got Law, Poole and Samuel, perhaps making this the best secondary in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Originally posted by Blue_chill NE wants the best running back in the draft. It's their only real weakness......unless of course you think Smith and Faulk are game breakers. NE can probably get a very good RB with their 21st pick in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Originally posted by inmate running the asylum NE can probably get a very good RB with their 21st pick in the 1st round. I agree but I don't think they have been happy with past 'good' backs that haven't turned into much of anything. Being that they want to get rid of Smith tells me that they are looking to upgrade the running back spot. Their passing game is already great and their defense was the best in the NFL, I can't see them wanting rookies there. I know many here are high on Tight Ends but I still don't think tight ends are worth top tens, and certainly are no where near as important as Running Backs who carry a much heavier load. In the Super bowl NE couldn't ice the game or eat the clock because their running game was crap. It became a shoot out because there was no other option for moving the ball. In fact NE had to do through out the playoffs. Teams will study the NE pass attack in the off season and unless they have something more to offer they won't be going on any 15 game winning streeks next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjinhan Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 well even though we might be losing in "value" with the trade as someone pointed out in the other thread... but i think we can fill lot more holes with 4 pick then with 2... and even though Beathard (sp?) was making the picks, gibbs is comfy with taking players in the lower parts of 1st and 2nd round... with these picks it wouldnt be out of question for us to get Greg Jones and then 2 best DL on board, and best S on board in the first two rounds which seems like a good deal to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasfan Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I don't know if it was mentioned, but when signing a franchise player, you have to give up a first round pick equal or greater to yours, you can't low ball the team, and trade down and sign them. So if you guys go after Peterson, you will need your #5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Murphaaay Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Originally posted by Blue_chill NE wants the best running back in the draft. It's their only real weakness......unless of course you think Smith and Faulk are game breakers. We'll they've won 2 Superbowls with those guys in the backfield, and they've both performed honorably when called upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylaw4president Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Originally posted by earl i think the rumor means 2 things. 2. NE wants winslow. What player could they be targeting, that is sure to be there @5? but what player is not likely to be there after 5? they could always trade for someone else in the top 10 right? not if everyone has us picking winslow. Winslow is sure to be there at 5 and the pats are only offering us the trade cuz they know we want him. they can't offer the same for the 6th or 7th pick cuz with us still on board winslow is no longer a guarantee. they run two 2 tight end sets, and i think thier offense would cream over a guy like winslow. Although anything is possible, I find this highly unlikely. They have two good tight ends now in Graham and Fauria. They took Graham in the first round 2 years ago, after he won the Mackey award. I find it difficult to believe they'd draft 2 tight ends in the first round in a 3 year span, especially when they're real high on Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Originally posted by rellim We'll they've won 2 Superbowls with those guys in the backfield, and they've both performed honorably when called upon. I agree but the Patriots have two units that could stand improving. Most glaring is punting, but you aren't going to draft a punter at #5. The second is their running game which while they have done well in the past aren't at the level that the rest of the team is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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