Chrisbob74 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Ok, attempting to be unbiased here I've selected an "All-Pro" team for the division. See what you think, I'll try and justify the selections as I go: QB, Donavan McNabb, by default really . He had a bit of a slow start as did the Eagles in general but he played real well down the stretch until the Championship game. This guy needs some real WR's!! RB, Tiki Barber, 1,200+ yards and 70 catches make Barber the pick here. Hambrick was next in yards gained but his average was only 3.5 a carry. The Eagles had a better running game but the fact they rotate backs hurts each ones indiviual claims. Brain Westbrooks stats are very impressive though, including 5.2 per carry. Redskins backs didn't get used, plus, Trung is **** anyway. FB, Richie Anderson, 69 catches and 300 yards rushing at a nice 4.4 average make this guy the pick. I know some Dallas fans felt he hurt the running game in that he is not a great lead blocker and some people wanted Jamir Martin in to lead Hambrick. I feel Anderson helped QC a lot by giving him a reliable short range dump off target and that helped the 'Boys a lot. Jon Ritchie ran him nearest. WR's, Laveranues Coles, Amani Toomer. Coles was a real plus for the 'Skins, the best skill position player for us all year. Toomer still made his presence felt even as the Giants disappeared without a trace in the second half of the season. Eagles receiver...LOL, what receivers. Dallas receivers seemed to have hot streaks then disappear. Bryant didn't build on an excellent rookie season, Galloway started well then faded and Glenn had a hot streak in mid season but went quiet at seasons end. Some of that may have been on QC though. TE, Jeremy Shockey, 48 catches in just over half a season and the fact the Giants bad run coincided with his injury makes him the choice here. The Redskins didn't use TE's last year, the Eagles again, like RB, rotate and make use of two players here (LJ Smith and Chad Lewis). Dallas have young Jason Witten who could develop into a good player. LT, Tra Thomas, protected McNabb reasonably well and the Eagles line is underated when it comes to run blocking. LG, Larry Allen, the weakest spot so far, Allen is still better than most guards in the league but he is not the player he once once. The Redskins had Flore here but he went out injured and rookie Derrick Dockery came in and struggled badly at first but by seasons end had shown enough to believe he can be a starter next year. The Eagles mised Mayberry though injury and the Giants line is the weakest spot on their O. C, Hank Fraley, another underated player on a solid Eagles line. RG, Randy Thomas, was made the highest paid guard in the league and played like it, with all the struggles at the start of the season (false starts, allowing sacks etc), Thomas was the one guard who you never heard mentioned. A great run blocker and has a great partnership with Jansen on the right side of the line. RT, Jon Runyan, Jansen struggled early on and Ryan Young is solid if not great, Runyan may be the best player on a solid Eagles line. K, John Hall, after all the trouble the 'Skins have had with kickers in the past Hall was a welcome improvement, he made some great kicks and has one of the strongest legs in the league. The Giants had to chop and change due to injuries but Matt Bryant won no fans (well, no Giant fans ) with the kick-off in week 2! David Akers is a great kicker too, he was just as diserving and Cuncliff was not the most popular kicker ever at the start of the season but that 57 yarder vs Giants found him a new lease of life. LDE, Micheal Strahan, not much competition here, maybe Brandon Whitting of the Eagles, Strahan is a great player though. LDT, Corey Simon, worn down a bit due to lack of depth being robbed from the Eagles by injuries but a real solid player. RDT, La'Rai Glover, Dallas' best D lineman and without him their line is nearly as bad as the 'Skins RDE, ND Kalu, great pas rusher, defensive line as a general is a weakness in most of the division (except Philly), the Giants and Dallas have one stud and the the 'Skins don't even have one! SLB, Carlos Emmons, Eagles Defensive MVP, they missed him in the play-offs. MLB, Dat Nguyen, Parcells traditionally likes big LB's and whilst Coakley may not have won him over this guy did. Had a great season. OLB, Jessie Armstead, the old vet was the Skins best player in the front seven and had a solid season, still has gas left in the tank. CB, Terrance Newman, great rookie season and Tim Hasslebecks favourite receiver. A future star...I hope Dallas trades him.lol. CB, Fred Smoot, out played Champ IMO and had a great season, made some important ints (including a game saver vs Seattle) and played tough all year with a rib injury. The Eagles corners are superb but missed time with injury, the Giants corners struggled at times, as did the whole D! FS, Brain Dawkins, a real battle here between the two best in the NFC (Roy Williams being the other) but I feel Williams can be exposed in coverage at times even though he hits like a truck, with Philly's blitzing style, the corners and safeties can be exposed a lot, Dawkins doesn't get beat much! SS, Darren Woodson, the veteran leader of a young D. P, Jeff Feagles, he got lots of practice, as did Barker but Barker may be one of the most hated Redskins by his own fans!! Gowin is not loved by Poke fans either, Johnson of the Eagles was the main competition. KR, Brain Westbrook, returned 2 punts for TD's, I wonder if he'll continue too do returns if he is more featured on offense next year. Ok, over to you guys, what do you all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNfaithfull Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 WOW I really have some different opinions Ill get too it later. but WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwash Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Arrington had a better season than Armstead.IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 I saw T. Newman getting burned all season. He looked good the 2nd game against us. Vincent from the Eagles would be a better choice. Other then that it looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Hogwash, Arrington probably did have a better year than Armstead but these were done by position. You aren't comparing the two here. You are comparing Arrington to other SLB as opposed to Armstead being WLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor The Invincible Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Overall it's a bit TOO unbiased. John Hall is not the best kicker in this division. That trophy belongs to David Akers. Carlos Emmons? Jessie Armstead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Terrance Newman? :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLSKINSFAN Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 I don't see how Newman made the team over Bailey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNfaithfull Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Originally posted by FLSKINSFAN I don't see how Newman made the team over Bailey. biased higher standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingJeremy Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Originally posted by Chrisbob74 LT, Tra Thomas, protected McNabb reasonably well and the Eagles line is underated when it comes to run blocking. Ok, over to you guys, what do you all think? I think Tra Thomas is still a flaming poopstick for spearing Arrington in the back after the play 3 years ago. And Arrington got the penatly for retaliation... Oh, you meant about the "team". Um, looks good... Jer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fezzik Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Hey? Where is your Strong Safety? And Akers is the man when it comes to kicking I would give you that Hall is second. Also the corners in Philly, even with injuries looked better than Newman this year. The kid is going to be a stud with expereince. I might have put Smoot and Bailey on the team. Smoot played better but Bailey played with injuries the entire year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisbob74 Posted January 24, 2004 Author Share Posted January 24, 2004 Sorry, missed SS at first, it has been edited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasfan Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Flozell Adams should be the LT, he played just as well as Pace or Ogden this season, and better than anyone minus these 2. And Roy Williams played in all 16 games (and actually got 2 votes for DPOY, still like 30 behind Ray Lewis) compared to Dawkins playing in only 7 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Williams Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 I'll just let everyone else say the stuff I'm thinking because I'm too lazy to type ALL this out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyGator Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 So much for having the most talent in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwash Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 I pretty much agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talent Wasted at a Desk Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 QB - Rod Gardner. almost a perfect season. RB - Brian Westbrook FB - Richie Anderson WR - Coles, Toomer (off years for both) TE - Chad Lewis OL - Cowboys and Eagles DL - Strahan, Glover plus Eagles LB - Arrington, Barrow, Armstead S - Williams. by himself. CB - Smoot (played with a broken sternum, folks) and Vincent K - Akers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Tooth Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 I think this was a great thread, but a biased one at that. Maybe it is because I am such a hater of the boys eagles and Gints, but I just can not agree with a lot of those selections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien 91 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 What about the Zeron at TE? Oh yeah....we are talking about the All NFC East team...not the all sh!t team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge94 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 If Larry Allen is the best G - the NFC East is very weak and this coming from a Cowboy fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Down year for NFC East Most Underrated IMO: Eagles- Runyan Redskins- R. Thomas Cowboys- Anderson Giants- Barrow Overrated: Eagles- T. Thomas Redskins- Rod Gardner ( by non Skin fans ) Giants- Will Peterson Cowboys- Galloway JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisbob74 Posted January 25, 2004 Author Share Posted January 25, 2004 Some of these replies come across as people thinking I'm a Pokes fan....I'M NOT....'SKINS ALL THE WAY BABY!!! Or maybe I'm just mis reading things, anyway, I tried to pick a team fairly based on hat they did last season, I hope if I do a team next year it's full of Redskins!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_good_brotha Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 What?! No Bruce Smith or David Terrell? Ok, in all seriousness, there is no way to leave Lavar Arrington off the team. And I won't take Smoot over Champ. No disrespect intended, but when did Smoot cover the opposing teams' best WR? Also, I like Brandon Short of the Giants at LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisbob74 Posted January 25, 2004 Author Share Posted January 25, 2004 Arrington plays at SLB, same as Emmons who was Eagles defensive MVP, Lavar is good, he could be great, but until he plays with control and stops his free lancing he will never be more than a great player waiting to happen IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_good_brotha Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Maybe if Lavar had a DC for more than 1 season he could develop a lot faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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