Charlie Murphaaay Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 Could someone tell me exactly what Sonny Jurgenson did to make the NFL hall of fame? Where his stats incredible? He never led the skins to the SB did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 Originally posted by rellim Could someone tell me exactly what Sonny Jurgenson did to make the NFL hall of fame? Where his stats incredible? He never led the skins to the SB did he? :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/JurgSo00.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddha Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 18 seasons 4262 attempts, 2433 completions 32,224 passing yards 255 TDs 189 INTs 82.63 career passer rating 4 Pro Bowls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASMTrainer Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 I'm gonna act that this didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 Five Pro Bowls, not Four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddha Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 Originally posted by CrankyTodd Five Pro Bowls, not Four. You're right-- 4 with the Skins and one with Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowghost Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 1 SB, lost to the Dolphins. He was hurt and G Allen would not allow him to be on the sidelines:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlskinsfan Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 some day it will happen...maybe he will get in the same time art monk will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 Originally posted by orlskinsfan some day it will happen...maybe he will get in the same time art monk will Sonny is in the hall :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 Originally posted by orlskinsfan some day it will happen...maybe he will get in the same time art monk will :doh:He's already in. Was a first ballot guy, I believe. You guys forgot to mention the MOST important thing - I believe he retired as the NFL's all time leading passer. He might still be that if rules hadn't changed later to benefit the offense (namely the 5-yd no contact rule). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASMTrainer Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 Originally posted by orlskinsfan some day it will happen...maybe he will get in the same time art monk will And I'm gonna pretend this didn't happen as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 Originally posted by Skin-N-NY And I'm gonna pretend this didn't happen as well. Sound like you are forgetting a lot there today :laugh: :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aREDSKIN Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 Unfricking believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASMTrainer Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 Originally posted by jbooma Sound like you are forgetting a lot there today :laugh: :rotflmao: I just don't want to believe that a true Redskin fan would ask that first question and then another say what he said about the HOF. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 Young'uns.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlskinsfan Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 class of 1983...:doh1: have to forgive me i was only 10 at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Murphaaay Posted October 22, 2003 Author Share Posted October 22, 2003 I basically didn't see him play at all, and I wanted to know what he did to get into the HOF. No disrespect for Sonny intended, but I had heard that G. Allen didn't like Sonny much and that Sammy Bough was much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montilar Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 I remember someone once saying Sonny was the best pure passer ever. I know I've seen film with him tossing it behind his back downfield in practice; a perfect strike. If he was healthy and playing, Miami would of had a much, much tougher time going undefeated I think. Kilmer was gritty and tough as nails but they coined the phrase "wounded duck" to describe his passes. Of course that's assuming George allen would let Sonny play; they weren't exactly buddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 Vince Lombardi: "Jurgensen is a great quarterback, he hangs in there under adverse conditions. He may be the best the league has ever seen. He is the best I have seen." "If I'd had him in Green Bay, we would never have lost a game" Sam Huff: "He could change speeds on the ball like a baseball pitcher — even throw a screwball, some quarterbacks could throw a great short pass, some were good with the long ball, but very few could do both — Sonny could." Bobby Mitchell: "Sonny could hit a gnat from 50 yards away. I never saw anyone handle a team like Sonny. I used to rate [baltimore Colts quarterback] Johnny Unitas as the best field general I ever saw, but I might change that to Sonny — there was definitely no comparison between them in throwing the football." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 My dad would be more than happy whenever Jurgensen goes to Canton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofer Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Originally posted by rellim I basically didn't see him play at all, and I wanted to know what he did to get into the HOF. No disrespect for Sonny intended, but I had heard that G. Allen didn't like Sonny much and that Sammy Bough was much better. Well you are correct in that G Allen did not like Sonny. Don't know why. Allen forced Sonny to retire. Very few people could run a team like Sonny. Master field general. In those days, they called their own plays in the huddle As for Sammy, two completely different eras. Sammy was in the 30's and 40's. Sammy Adrian Baugh. . .Two-time TCU All-America. . .No. 1 draft choice, 1937. . .Split career between tailback, T-quarterback. . . Premier passer who influenced great offensive revolution. . .All-NFL seven years. . . NFL passing, punting, interception champ, 1943. . .Six-time NFL passing leader. . . History's top punter. . .Career records: 21,886 yards, 187 TDs passing, 45.1-yard punting average, 31 interceptions. . .Born March 17, 1914, in Temple, Texas. http://www.profootballhof.com/index.cfm?section=team&cont_id=player&personnel_id=1172&roster_id=42 Sonny was in the 60's and 70's. Christian Adolph Jurgensen, III. . .Exceptional passer, superb team leader, intelligent, determined, competitive, poised against pass rush. . .Career 82.625 passing rating. . .Won three NFL individual passing titles. . .Surpassed 3,000 yards in five seasons, 300 yards in 25 games, 400 yards in five games. . .Career totals: 2,433 completions, 32,224 yards, 255 touchdowns. . .Excelled in spite of numerous injuries. . . Born August 23, 1934, in Wilmington, North Carolina. http://www.profootballhof.com/index.cfm?section=team&cont_id=player&personnel_id=1259&roster_id=42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofer Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Originally posted by Duke My dad would be more than happy whenever Jurgensen goes to Canton. He's in Canton! Has been for years! Sheesh! http://www.profootballhof.com/index.cfm?section=team&cont_id=player&personnel_id=1259&roster_id=42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Originally posted by RedskinFan in PA He's in Canton! Has been for years! Sheesh! http://www.profootballhof.com/index.cfm?section=team&cont_id=player&personnel_id=1259&roster_id=42 ...with SB ring, my bad...:doh: :hammer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Terry hit the nail on the head. All you need to know about Jurgensen is that Vince Lombardi (who had his own HOF QB in GB), while watching film on him in the offseason prior to coaching the Redskins, said "Good God! If we'd only had him with the Packers...". FWIW, Namath considered him the best QB in the NFL, too. I can't say for sure that the Redskins would have beaten the Dolphins in the Super Bowl with Jurgensen under center, but he would have shredded the defense the Dolphins played that day. They dared Kilmer to throw, focussing on the run. Kilmer just couldn't beat them with his arm. He missed a wide-open Jerry Smith in the end zone when he hit the goal post (when it was on the goal line). He then threw a pick in the end zone. Jurgensen stills tells Shula that the Dolphins only went undefeated because he got hurt, and Shula is smart enough to know that there is no way they could have played that style against Jurgensen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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