Redskins Make Cuts, Finalize 53-Man Roster

[ExtremeSkins Staff]

The Washington Redskins announced final roster cuts on Saturday evening, including a number of surprises at quarterback, safety and offensive tackle.

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[rasta028]

4 QB's ? What gives? Why keep White?

[Old Ref]

White is kept for trade potential. Don't expect to see him around after Jenkins returns from suspension.

[28skinsman]

4 QBs ? I sure don't agree with that, I hope we don't lose out on a young kid.

[Ken Linkins]

Coach Shanny and GM Allen said they would keep the best 53 men and I do not see anyone cut that was so much better than Pat White that I would question the reason we have 4 QB's on the roster. Now we get to see who cleared waivers so that we can sign them to the Practice Squad. Chase Minnifield is my only concern there, someone might claim him but being a rookie with no NFL real games under his belt, not being in a teams camp all year and his knee problems make him a good risk to try and clear. Pat White on the other hand would have been claimed by a few teams and we would have lost all the value we developed in him. Plus we all know that the next few days have some adjustments at the bottom of the roster for most NFL teams. Pat White could be trade bait or just used to help our Defense get ready for the Eagles (left handed-running QB like Vick). Either way, the Pat White story continues.

[dswg123]

Let me make everything clearer about why Pat White is on the team, since people seem to be a little confused about the situation of 4 QB's. Who was the first NFL team and QB to introduce the Spread Offense, including the pistol, read zone and option into the league and what year? Anyone? Was it Carolina and Newton? Nope. Was it Atlanta and Vick? nope.. Redskins and RGIII? nope - then who? Miami and Pat White in 2009. yes sir. Pat White is the sole reason Miami introduced the Spread Offense with all its facets, into the NFL that year. The problem was, they designed it, but not around the QB. So it hampered Pat Whites performance, not helping it. That being said, can you now emotionally and logically see why Pat White is on the team, and will be here for a long time? He is the father/QB of the offense. The same offense the Skins and Kyle have banked on. He not only knows it inside and out, it was started in the NFL for him. Only him. And since Shanny changed his ways developing the Skins offense around RGIII, its just a matter of time, until Pat White is up to par. What better person to have on your team, and soon as a back up, and possibly starter if RGIII goes down again, but the original QB who started your type of offense in the first place? Pat White is the original QB of the Spread Offense, coupled with all the zone read, option and pistol.. He can execute it in his sleep. And once he gets his timing and arm strength back, RGIII might just loose his job.. depending on how RG performs in a more cautious QB setting. The concern is, not with his healing and recovery, that is all 100%. But it is the possibility, high possibility, RGIII will take chances on plays like he did last year, and injure his knee again, out for months, or worse, end his career. The bad part of his injury is that, RGIII could mess himself up just sliding.. That is how risky it is.

There is also a high probability that White will play in the Eagles game. I do not believe Shanny will risk playing RGIII all game so early in the season. Cousins, and Rex cannot run the entire bag of tricks from Kyle's arsenal against the Eagles. If we need to keep with that same offense, who is going to run it? Pat White. Hence why we saw his trading spots with Rex in the Bill's game. Why we saw him start and play the entire last preseason game. To evaluate his ability to come into a game, run all the arsenal come out, and also start and go the distance.. Does he score? Does the offense score or falter like it did in the Seattle game with Cousins? Does he make mistakes that cost us a game, or just little ones, we can recover easily? White helped the Skins score 24 points in 1 qtr.. He was on a mission to score probably 50 or more until Kyle changed the game plan after 17 mins of game play. So that is why White is on the team. To eventually become the back up, and if RGIII goes down, the starter.. Cousins and Rex style of offense only goes so far. Again, we saw what limited play calling gets you in the Seattle play off game. No points against a tougher team. RGIII scored 14 pts, Cousins 0.. not even a field goal.. Pat White allows Kyle to play unlimited plays, using all his arsenal if RGIII must come out of the game..

What happens to Cousins? Rex? depends.. If RGIII goes without injury, Pat White still gets prep'd as a back up. He has one year to improve before Cousins contract is up. If White can master everything and improve on the pass game, Cousins get traded, and Rex possibly stays. If RGIII gets injured, White will become the go to QB, starter. Cousins as the back up and Rex, just Rex.. White and Cousins will share QB roles, against particular teams. If We need more of an RGIII, White starts, if we can get by like with a team like Cleveland, then Cousins can start.. thats how I see it playing out.. Eventually Pat White moving into back and possibly starter, Cousins traded, rex just rex and bring in a another younger QB.. next year..

And those thinking Pat White is trade bait etc.. are totally clueless..

[hailyeah1]

and the debate continues ...........isn't this more fun than than wondering about finding a 1# qb.

that's how far we have come in 3 short years 

[28skinsman]

123 "Does the offense score or falter like it did in the Seattle game with Cousins? ""Again, we saw what limited play calling gets you in the Seattle play off game."123 not sure these are very fair statements the ENTIRE TEAM and STAFF were GUTTED when RG3 went down on his last play, I still believe if Kirk comes in at 14-0 when RG3 showed he was finished the outcome could have easily been different! just sayin

123 also if the staff are so confident as you are for P White then WHY Rex? Look im not sayin White can't do it, just sayin why 4 with Rex?

[RJMJR]

123 Cousins came into the baltimore game and drove for the Touchdown and 2 pt conversion that tied the game. The fact that he didn't move the team after Robert went down in the Seattle game means nothing since Robert wasn't moving the team either. I do agree however that Pat White is a long term solution at backup QB since his talents are matched to this style of offense. Pat needs a lot more QB work before he takes fire in a regular season game. Many teams wanted to try him out when he decided to come back to football ('Skins included) but he chose the 'skins in order to work with the Shanahans ' and this offense. He sucked at first but has gotten better and better with more exposure. I think the fact that he looks comfortable in this offense whether he's playing with the 2's or 3's is clearest evedence that the Coach wants to keep him around for a while.

[Canadianfanforlife]

I guess I was wrong on K.Williams. I thought he made a good enough case for himself to stay. I suppose being injured didn't help his cause any. I was right however in thinking they wouldn't keep 4 RBs. I just hope they ALL stay healthy. 

 

HTTR!!!

[London Kev]

That makes 54 players. I think we've got 4 DE's not 5. (And it's Brandon not Branond). Just saying

[London Kev]

My bad, I was trying to be a bit of a smartass, but this counting lark turns out to be harder than I thought, lol.

Your numbers actually add up to 56 players but I guess you counted Rob Jackson & Jarvis Jenkins. I think Hurt is on IR or PUP or something. Anyway, our 53 is;

Offense: 4 QBs, 5 WRs, 3 Ts, 4 Gs, 1 C, 4 TEs, 1 FB, 4 RBs. (26)

Defense: 4 DEs, 2 NTs, 4 OLBs, 4 ILBs, 5 Ss, 5 CBs. (24)

Specialists: (3)

[goskins10]

123 "Does the offense score or falter like it did in the Seattle game with Cousins? " "Again, we saw what limited play calling gets you in the Seattle play off game." 123 not sure these are very fair statements the ENTIRE TEAM and STAFF were GUTTED when RG3 went down on his last play, I still believe if Kirk comes in at 14-0 when RG3 showed he was finished the outcome could have easily been different! just sayin

123 also if the staff are so confident as you are for P White then WHY Rex? Look im not sayin White can't do it, just sayin why 4 with Rex?

 

 

28 - First, I like Pat White and I am glad he made the team. He offers some options that we don't have, especially in preparring our D, I sadi as much earlier in the preseason.

 

However, you make a great point. I was at the Seattle game. We need to remember we scored those 14 pts in the 1st Q. RGIII did not go out until midway through the 4th Q. So to say - RGIII - 14  Cousins - 0 based on play calling is not true. RGIII was in for the 2nd and 3rd Qs and we did not score. Also, Seattle led the league scoring Def last year at 15 pts/gm. So when you look at the entire picture instead of a very narrow view, it's more apparent that Seattle made some adjustments not Cousins "limited play calling."   

 

Also, to make the statement "And those thinking Pat White is trade bait etc.. are totally clueless.." is a pretty definitive statement without data, especially when it is quite plausible that Pat White could be traded, or Rex. You mean to say that if someone offered a 4th or 5th round draft pick you wouldn't let White or Rex go? The staff would jump all over that. To say otherwise seems to be a fairly narrow minded look at things. It may or may not happen, but it certainly is possible. 

[Skinsfan1311]

Let me make everything clearer about why Pat White is on the team, since people seem to be a little confused about the situation of 4 QB's.  That being said, can you now emotionally and logically see why Pat White is on the team, and will be here for a long time?

 

 He can execute it in his sleep. And once he gets his timing and arm strength back, RGIII might just loose his job.. depending on how RG performs in a more cautious QB setting.

There is also a high probability that White will play in the Eagles game. I do not believe Shanny will risk playing RGIII all game so early in the season. ? Pat White. Hence why we saw his trading spots with Rex in the Bill's game. Why we saw him start and play the entire last preseason game.

What happens to Cousins? Rex? depends.. If RGIII goes without injury, Pat White still gets prep'd as a back up. He has one year to improve before Cousins contract is up. If White can master everything and improve on the pass game, Cousins get traded, and Rex possibly stays. If RGIII gets injured, White will become the go to QB, starter. Cousins as the back up and Rex, just Rex.. 

 

Eventually Pat White moving into back and possibly starter, Cousins traded, rex just rex and bring in a another younger QB.. next year..

And those thinking Pat White is trade bait etc.. are totally clueless..

 

Here are my humble thoughts.

 

You make some interesting points, but I'm not buying.   White will come in handy, for our D, by simulating Mike Vick in practice this week. 

 

Unless something drastic happens, (injury, trade, etc), he probably won't last past week past week 4, when Jenkins and Jackson are reinstated, and relegated to the practice squad.   Also, given that they cut Minnefield, and with the possible return of Tanard Jackson, (back from his 1-yr suspension), coupled with our thin secondary, White's hold on a roster spot is tenuous.

 

 Even if the aforementioned scenarios to do not come to bear, chances are, he'll end up being inactive.

 

And the possibility that RGIII might "loose" his job once White gets his arm strength and timing back?   That's just ludicrous.

 

And Pat?   I hope you remain a member of the board, after you're cut or traded, because I enjoy reading your posts! 

[RJMJR]

To those of you saying ditch Robert... Get a Grip! Pat White has talent, yes, but not to the level of RGIII. I believe Robert will stay healthy this year and increase his passing stats. He will run but only in certain situations. You will see him get rid of the ball more often to avoid a hit. Pat White was a 2nd round pick, he is on this team to be groomed to become RG3's backup when Kirk is traded after his third year. In many ways Pat is still a rookie QB and has a lot to learn. He even says so himself but you can see the natural talent and mobility he has. That is why the Shanahans don't want to let him go... his training has only just started.

[hailyeah1]

To those of you saying ditch Robert... Get a Grip! Pat White has talent, yes, but not to the level of RGIII. I believe Robert will stay healthy this year and increase his passing stats. He will run but only in certain situations. You will see him get rid of the ball more often to avoid a hit. Pat White was a 2nd round pick, he is on this team to be groomed to become RG3's backup when Kirk is traded after his third year. In many ways Pat is still a rookie QB and has a lot to learn. He even says so himself but you can see the natural talent and mobility he has. That is why the Shanahans don't want to let him go... his training has only just started.

hail rjmjr,

,yep thats what i think is happening  2 qb's running the pistol read option is what shannahan has in mind but white does needs some more grooming to run it simular to Rg3  so we keep rex for awhile .

[Ken Linkins]

If you think about it, we have a 57 man roster right now plus 2 guys on IR for next year for a total of 59 (2 SUSP, 2 PUP). That's a pretty good job of keeping what you build intact. Now if Minnifield, Lewis, N. Williams, Dawson, W. Compton, Jamison and D. Hamilton all clear the waiver wire we will have a total of 66 of the 75 guys we had in camp with room for another PS Pick up. As for Pat White, no matter if you like him making the team or not, you have to admit that he gives us options we didn't have before with little or no cost (only Minnifield if he doesn't clear waivers) and that is a good thing! Great job GM Allen and Coach Shanny keeping together and adding too a good team. Now Let's get ready for The Eagles and show the NFL just what we really have (as I am sick of watching basic preseason football and want to see the real deal). HTTR!

[dorrell77]

Wow , did i just read someone saying Pat White might take RG3 job ? LMAO

[dorrell77]

http://fanspeak.com/washingtonredskins/2013/08/31/final-practice-squad-predictions-for-the-redskins/ RB Jawan Jamison,WR Lance Lewis , WR Nick Williams, OL Xaiver Nixon,LB William Compton ,S Jose Gumbs , And two spots left on the practice squad . I like this list , But i will love it , if i see Chase Minnifield on it

[dorrell77]

Update , Chase Minnifeild , And DE Dominique Hamilton to the practice squad . Happy now Lol

[dorrell77]

Seems my first list was off , Here's the practice squad list http://realredskins.com/2013/09/01/per-reports-6-of-8-redskins-practice-squad-spots-filled/

[Ken Linkins]

So the only persons we didn't keep are Sky Dawson and Dezmon Briscoe after everything was said and done (or at lease the guys I wanted to see stay as Redskins). Nick Williams, Lance Lewis, Chase Minnifield, Will Compton, Nixon, Jamison, Stevens, and Hamilton are all on the Practice Squad. I think our GM and Coach did a great job. We now have 8 guys who can keep developing and work their way up if any on the 53 (57 in my mind) guys get hurt or just do not get the job done. Now let's see if we can win 11 games and the NFC East again. HTTR!

So the only persons we didn't keep are Sky Dawson and Dezmon Briscoe after everything was said and done (or at lease the guys I wanted to see stay as Redskins). Nick Williams, Lance Lewis, Chase Minnifield, Will Compton, Nixon, Jamison, Stevens, and Hamilton are all on the Practice Squad. I think our GM and Coach did a great job. We now have 8 guys who can keep developing and work their way up if any on the 53 (57 in my mind) guys get hurt or just do not get the job done. Now let's see if we can win 11 games and the NFC East again. HTTR!

Also, Briscoe and Dawson have not yet signed with any other NFL team. If anyone hears that they have landed some where, please post that information, Thank you in advance,

[28skinsman]

I can say i'm happy but Rex........really?

[hailyeah1]

Wow , did i just read someone saying Pat White might take RG3 job ? LMAO

hail dorell ,yeah thats funny and something you would expect coming out of a certain somebody that posted on the old format !!

not going to say who but you know who !!! lmaorofgfa!!!

[GroundNPound]

The people here posting Pat White as a threat to RGIII have to be trolling, just wow.

Fact - RGIII had one of the most prolific rookie seasons in NFL history, even with the injuries

Fact - Redskins gave up a crazy amount of draft picks to aquire RGIII

Fact - RGIII's accuracy is uncanny, shown by his 65% completion rating as a rookie

Fact - Pat White couldn't contend for a backup slot in a Dolphins team he was drafted by in the second round and starving for QB talent

Fact - Pat White's accuracy has always been in question. Even if it gets better, he will never have the arm or accuracy of Griffin.

Fact - some people be trollin