boofMcboof Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I like Shaun Rogers but there's no way in hell he would pass Shanny's conditioning test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_Fan Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Paul Soliai He must be a beast, everybody is talking about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 He must be a beast, everybody is talking about him. He's made a name for himself with how he played this year. Definitely on my short list of FA's to go after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megared Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I want to know why he played so little last season. Maybe his body is breaking down? Because the Browns defensive staff felt he was 'better suited' to be a 3-4 DE. I hope that this exploratory meeting includes the phrase NT...over and over and over, so Rogers understands what we need him to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_Fan Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 He's made a name for himself with how he played this year. Definitely on my short list of FA's to go after I need to see him play. I feel left out lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I need to see him play. I feel left out lol Well hopefully its in B&G next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi6 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Personally, I don't like this. We really need to think LONG term. Players that can play for us 5 plus years, at a minimum, down the road. If not, we keep getting ourselves into the same dumb rut! Time to draft young talent. And, get rid of the dead wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 1 mill base salary.. incentives on weight...snaps...things like that. I would say tackles/sacks as opposed to snaps. Because "snaps" he can take off...tackles and sacks requires he actually perform. ---------- Post added February-10th-2011 at 07:35 PM ---------- Personally, I don't like this. We really need to think LONG term. Players that can play for us 5 plus years, at a minimum, down the road. If not, we keep getting ourselves into the same dumb rut! Time to draft young talent. And, get rid of the dead wood. We improve the position for at least one year, and take away one draft need, so we can focus on NT next year. If he ends up being a solid player again, with Bryant, we could have the next two or three years covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Personally, I don't like this. We really need to think LONG term. Players that can play for us 5 plus years, at a minimum, down the road. If not, we keep getting ourselves into the same dumb rut! Time to draft young talent. And, get rid of the dead wood. This would be a great point if we were offering him a long-term deal for a good chunk of change. We won't do that under this regime, though, so it's a completely moot point. Nothing wrong with signing an older guy to a manageable deal that is three years tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoleSkin21 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Paul Soliai Pipe dream. No chance we get that guy imo. He'll end up a Jet. Plus, this is what I read about him earlier.... The DT franchise tag is $12.3-$12.5 million, and the transition tag is $9.4-$9.5 million. The Fins will miss Soliai if he walks, but they'd also seen him for three years as an underachiever before last season's contract-year breakout. Just turned 27, Soliai will attract mega-interest on the open market. Sound like anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 This would be a great point if we were offering him a long-term deal for a good chunk of change. We won't do that under this regime, though, so it's a completely moot point. Nothing wrong with signing an older guy to a manageable deal that is three years tops. Something kinda like Philip Buchanon's deal last year makes a lot of sense (1 year, 1.5 MM, 750K incentives). I feel like he will be looking for more though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Pipe dream. No chance we get that guy imo. He'll end up a Jet. You mean the same team who's got like 7 free agents to worry about? Yeah don't see him going there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoleSkin21 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 You mean the same team who's got like 7 free agents to worry about? Yeah don't see him going there Don't really see what that has to do with anything. Teams have their own free agents every year and still sign other free agents. There is no guarantee they even want to bring back Shaun Ellis (33 years old) or Cromartie. Tony Richardson is 38 and will be 39 before the season. I think they will choose between Holmes and Edwards, I don't think they want both back, so they can get Brad Smith on the field more. Harris is their only real priority IMO. I'm just saying, I do not think he will end up here. Makes too much sense. Rogers is more of the type of player we'll go after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Personally, I don't like this. We really need to think LONG term. Players that can play for us 5 plus years, at a minimum, down the road. If not, we keep getting ourselves into the same dumb rut! Time to draft young talent. And, get rid of the dead wood. Young players that fit that mold 98% of the time command a big chunk of change. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with signing a guy that can: A. Be an upgrade to a position we were downright TERRIBLE at at times last year B. Help us further develop Anthony Bryant C. Allows us to add a young rookie to another of the many many needs we have. Just because you cant address a need with a rookie or a young FA that will be here for 5-6 years, doesn't mean you should ignore that position. With the new regime in place, there is no worry about overpaying for players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Don't really see what that has to do with anything. Teams have their own free agents every year and still sign other free agents. There is no guarantee they even want to bring back Shaun Ellis (33 years old) or Cromartie. Tony Richardson is 38 and will be 39 before the season. I think they will choose between Holmes and Edwards, I don't think they want both back, so they can get Brad Smith on the field more. Harris is their only real priority IMO. I'm just saying, I do not think he will end up here. Makes too much sense. Rogers is more of the type of player we'll go after. They don't have a lot of money to spend IIRC so even with those guys. I don't see how Soliai makes sense when they have Kris Jenkins when healthy and Pouha who is a starter for them. Not saying it won't happen just see it as unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoleSkin21 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 They don't have a lot of money to spend IIRC so even with those guys. I don't see how Soliai makes sense when they have Kris Jenkins when healthy and Pouha who is a starter for them. Not saying it won't happen just see it as unlikely In bold is the key. When is he going to be healthy again? He hasn't really played in 2 seasons right? Soliai was an underachiever who finally produced in a contract year. Not feeling him. I guess we'll see....maybe....if there is a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABSTRACT Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I still believe our only options should be Phil Taylor, Sua, Kendrick Ellis, or Paul Soliai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I still believe our only options should be Phil Taylor, Sua, Kendrick Ellis, or Paul Soliai. I believe you mean Sione Fua? The more I've watched the worse he's looked as an NT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoleSkin21 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I believe you mean Sione Fua? The more I've watched the worse he's looked as an NT Yes, I think he's terrible. What is he projected? Like a 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Regardless of signing Rogers, we should address NT in the draft. The more options the better. If nothing else, Rogers can help push Bryant and make any rookie earn his spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Regardless of signing Rogers, we should address NT in the draft. The more options the better. If nothing else, Rogers can help push Bryant and make any rookie earn his spot. I would go after a NT in the draft next year if we get Rogers. See how he performs. If he and Bryant do well, we wouldn't need a NT in the draft for at least another year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Yes, I think he's terrible. What is he projected? Like a 3rd? Was a 3rd but now a 4th to 5th rounder who is better off in the 4-3 than 3-4 IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dro89 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 id rather take him if soliai is out the picture.. you can still take nield in later rounds and let him develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien1191 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Kicking tires. But we will not overpay. Think there will be any interest in Soliai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper 21 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Totally ok with this as long as it we promise to draft one in the near future. A stop gap player for a couple of years until we have less needs to fill. him and bryant could def hold it down this year. with carriker jarmon bring back gholston. and draft one more de. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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