HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 Yeah this world can be a great place and a ugly one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 A few questions:Did your friend use a different litter or litter box? We bought the same used at her house. even changed the food to what was at her house. Did your friend clean the litter box more frequently that you do? daily is what I have been doing. Only missed one day, and it's not like it's full. When he has peed it has been both used and empty by the time I checked in the morning What room is the litter box in? Have you removed all previous peeing spots with something similar to natures miracle etc? We didn't just remove the peed on spots with nature's miracle and the like. We replaced everything as we had to completely remodel after waterproofing our basment. None of the carpet is the same. Heck, the concrete underthe carpet isn't even the same. We can't remove much more:( Is he neutered? yes and rear declawed Call local cat rescues to see if they can help. One might be full but others should be able to help or take him to a no kill shelter. I am trying a few more, but the answers I keep getting are no to a cat with a history of peeing. Sucks because of the dozen cats I've had throughout my life, he is the most outwardly friendly. I wish he had a diferent home because he'd be great. He was for our friend who just can't afford to keep him or she said she would take him. For those who can't understand why we can't keep him, he has peed in 2 rooms upstairs and 3 spots in finished basement. We've had to cut carpet from the 2 upstairs which thankfully stopped before ever he went to our friend's place. The basement we cleaned as well as we could, but he kept peeing so we wanted to see what would happen at friend's where he was great. We have spent close to a $1,000 in vet bills trying to determine if there was a medical reason, and the only thing we get is "he must not be happy there." Given what I've dealt with in the past few years, please believe me when I say it is tearing me up to give up the animal always willing to prrr and talk me to sleep when I've been upset. Anyone want to be nice to a great cat or kow anyone who will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huly Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Potential CAUSES for failure to use litterbox: MEDICAL PROBLEMS: diarrhea (many causes) small intestinal- soft to watery colitis (inflamed colon)- mucus in stool, blood, straining urinary bladder inflammation FUS Bacterial infections trauma calculi (bladder stones) tumors polydipsia/polyuria (excessive water volume consumed and urine voided: upper water intake for cats is 1oz/lb; most cats drink considerably less than this) diabetes insipidus diabetes mellitus kidney disease liver disease adrenal gland disease pyometra (pus in the uterus) hypercalcemia (high blood calcium) others TERRITORIAL MARKING intact female in heat intact male spraying marking of peripheral walls particularly near windows may be from presence of outdoor cats may be triggered by over-crowding of indoor cats previously neutered cat has a bit of testicular or ovarian tissue remaining, possibly resulting in a low level of hormone which could trigger marking neutered male with sexual experience exposed to female in heat LITTER BOX PROBLEMS overcrowding: too many cats using same box failure to change littter frequently enough -- some cats won't use a dirty box failure to provide constant access to litterbox change in type of litter used change in location of litterbox unfamiliar, frightening, or loud objects near box: dishwasher, etc. food and water too close to litterbox objectionable chemical used to wash or disinfect litterbox location preference: your cat may want the box in a different location texture preference: your cat doesn't like the feel of the litter failure to cover litter: learned process from parents use of litterbox is instinctive cats that don't cover litter may be more prone to litterbox problems your cat may be indicating texture preference problem PSYCHOLOGICAL STRESS (most common manifestation is inappropriate urination) addition or subtraction of other pets in household visitors, company, parties, redecorating, construction, or any type of commotion a move to a new environment change in routine or schedule: a new job or working hours their return from boarding or hospitilization interaction problem with other pets or cats cats are asocial rather than antisocial; in the wild each has a territory and period of contact with others in the group (and only one male per group) a closed environment will create a greater degree of interaction than some cats prefer. The more cats in a household, the greater the degree of interaction CHEMICAL ATTRACTION OF PREVIOUS "ACCIDENTS:" likely to produce repeated visitations to the same spot may induce urination by other members of a multi-cat household you may have moved to a residence previously occupied with other dogs and/or cats Treatment Rule out medical problems FIRST complete history and physical stool/GI workup for diarrhea (if needed) urinalysis for inappropriate urination to rule out an infection workup for polydipsia/polyuria important to check all cats of a multi-cat household last cat seen misbehaving may be responding to chemical attraction and not be an instigator more than one cat could have problem treat/correct medical problems first. Behavioral problems can only be diagnosed in a healthy cat Territorial marking neuter all cats (check history of neutered cats; retained testicle in male or signs of heat in female) prevent other cats from coming around outside of house, close windows, blinds, and doors prevent overcrowding in multi-cat households Litter box problems provide a box for each cat change litter daily provide constant access to a box go back to previously used brand of litter and/or discontinue new disinfectant move box to where it was previously used eliminate new or frightening noise near litterbox move food and water away from litterbox if cat is only going in one spot, put the litterbox at the exact location and gradually move it back to where you want it at the rate of one foot per day if there are several places, try putting dishes of cat food in those areas to discourage further elimination there experiment with different textures of litter (cats prefer sandy litter) use a covered litterbox for cats that stand in box but eliminate outside of it Psychological Stress eliminate if possible try to provide each cat at home with its own "space" use favorite resting areas to determine provide separate litterboxes near each space if possible cubicles, boxes, shelves, crates are effective for this tranquilizers sometimes work well in multicat situations Chemical attraction dispose of all soiled fabric or throw rugs if possible 50% vinegar or commercial products may be used steam cleaning may help repellants may help do not replace carpeting until problem entirely solved or it may start all over again on your new carpeting Confinement (In portable kennel with litterbox, (with appropriate corrections) to stop further inappropriate behavior while medical and/or other problems are being treated.) particularly beneficial for transient stress induced problem may allow acclimation to stress situation where source of stress cannot be eliminated procedure choose an area that can be a permanent location of litterbox keep cat confined to this area 4-6 weeks when not under your direct visual supervision (if your cat attempts elimination outside of kennel when you are watching, squirt with water pistol as soon as elimination posture is attempted and put cat back in kennel) if cat is using box regularly for 4 to 6 weeks when not under your gradually give access to larger and larger areas of your home, one room or hallway at a time allow 1 week of good behavior in the new area before adding the new room never increase access area until you are 100% certain cat's use of litterbox is 100% if accident occurs, re-evaluate this material to make sure litterbox problem or something else didn't trigger begin confinement over again and double intervals for relapses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 Thank you ForOldDC! What is your user ID on ES? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Cat is definitely territorial. He backs down any dog that comes over be it a pit bull or a chuhuahua until they know he 's boss. We are speaking with vet again on Thurs. Probably beginning the one room life on Thurs. night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 Wow, Thanks GBear for your contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huly Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Cat is definitely territorial. He backs down any dog that comes over be it a pit bull or a chuhuahua until they know he 's boss. We are speaking with vet again on Thurs. Probably beginning the one room life on Thurs. night. also try this cat litter http://www.preciouscat.com/ I have heard good things about Cat Attract. You can buy it at Petco and it is all natural. I use the Precious Cat as my cat Huly has severe allergies to other cat litters with their fragrances etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 Thanks you so much Perturbed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 We are up to $120. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 Now we have raised $125. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeGreen Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 We got our 3 legged dog their and he is still the fastest dog in the dog park. He lowers his head and runs into other dogs. We wanted to get him a Sean Taylor jersey. That's interesting. We fostered a 3-legged dog about a year ago (as a puppy) and he got adopted in VA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 We are now at $135 thanks to Dawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 That's interesting. We fostered a 3-legged dog about a year ago (as a puppy) and he got adopted in VA. Ours is a pit/lab mix. Missing a back leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 Yeah GBear my girlfriend said that you need to buy a strong cleaner and really try to deep clean the room where the cat pees. She says the cat can still smell where it has peed and thats why the cat was fine at your friends house. She says thats a possibility and to go to petsmart and buy Natures Miracle. Put it around the areas where the cat has peed. Dont know if that has already been said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Skins Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Thanks you so much Perturbed! Not a problem.. good luck ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 we stripped everything down past the concrete :-( when we ad to waterproof our basement. no carpet. no padding. not even the concrete from when he was peeing before he went away. we can't remove much more. we're already to the point where we got rid of everything down to the foundation...he's just a prissy pissy cat here. we'll see if the one room living helps. I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 ----bump---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Skins Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Bump.... How are things going so far ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 Thanks for the bump. We have been stuck at $135 for awhile. I got a couple people that are going to donate and a couple people on this board said they would donate later on when the get paid. I think it would help if people bump this thread once and awhile like you did. Also if their are any big news stories about animals we could put them here. I think this thread could be used many ways. To post pics of your own dogs-cats or your own stories. Also any questions you have with a pet. I think its good just to bump it once and awhile. We were stuck at 35 for almost a whole day then I checked it and we jumped 100 dollars. So I am looking forward to another jump hopefully. I just dont want to annoy people about it. Like my Dad said he would so I still think he will when he gets a chance and thinks about it. We just have to plant seeds. Put it on facebook or e mail people especially if you know they are an animal lover. But again thanks for the bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 ---Bump--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 7, 2010 Author Share Posted February 7, 2010 Bump any snowed in Extremeskins feeling generous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Bump any snowed in Extremeskins feeling generous? You found my weakness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 7, 2010 Author Share Posted February 7, 2010 ;7282257']You found my weakness! Thanks so much Tom for your donation. My fiance and I really appreciate it. To bad the Skins are going to be back next year and put the beat down on the G Men. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Thanks so much Tom for your donation. My fiance and I really appreciate it. To bad the Skins are going to be back next year and put the beat down on the G Men. LOL I'm not worried about that right now. The Puppy Bowl is on!!!! And you're welcome, my pleasure to help animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 Thanks B-Rad for you donation! We are up to 160 dollars. Cant wait to get to 200! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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