shuler74 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Bye.....love that nsync song ..aint no lie baby bye bye bye !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skindogger47 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 We did. Does the name Stephon Heyer ring a bell? For as crappy as our running game was this year its funny how everyone wants to blame the line for not opening holes yet nobody complains about Samuels, Rabach, Kendall, Heyer, or Bugel. I find it incredibly hard to believe that Jason Fabini was the sole reason Portis averaged 3.9 ypc this year. I dont think Heyer is anything but a career backup who can play in a pinch and I want a stud run blocker replacing Jansen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan4ever Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Bye.....love that nsync song ..aint no lie baby bye bye bye !!!! :puke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_33 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 If I were coach,I would have this team with 10 wins for sure...!!!! I sign either Albert Haynesworth or Jared Allen in FA... Whichever one I did not get,would be my 1st round pick,unless nothing...and I mean nothing was there at the #21 slot... Lets say we got Haynesworth!I would then Sign Calias Campbell @#21 overall... that would give us ------------------ DE=Carter DT=Griffin DT=Haynesworth DE=Campbell (1st rounder) That's my starting 4,with Mongomery,Golsten and Wilson as my backups (That's 1 FA so far) LB's would stay the same,but I might address that in rounds 5,6 or 7 for backups!But as far as I'm concerned...They are very good!! My secondary?Springs either restructs his contract or he's gone!Lets say he doesn't and I cut him! Leaving me with Smoot,Rogers,Landry as guys worth a crap back there... I look for a CB or Safety in FA...just one of those...Let say I get CB Marcus Trufant?(that's 2 FA so far) Then I look for a safety in the 2nd or 3rd round no matter what!!Let's say Brandon Flowers fall to us in the 2nd round somehow? secondary looks like this ------------------------ CB=Smoot CB=Trufant Nickel CB=Rogers FS=Landry SS=Flowers(2nd rounder) (2 FA signed and my 1st and 2nd rounder used so far!)Tryouts for the backups baby!! Moss and Randel El will stay,but we MUST get a tough,big WR on this team!!! I could look at Bernard Berrian or someone else,but why?Lots and Lots of Money like Lloyd there...So forget it!! I look for a guy in the 3rd or 4th round to get my Big guy here!!Since I'm coach and I'm drooling over Marcus Monk,then He is my choice!6'6" 235 pounds...i know I can get him in the 3rd and could probably get him in the 4th,but at what risk of losing him too? So I'm gonna reach in the 3rd for him cause you can't teach Height my friends...And he's much cheaper than Berrian! WR Core ---------- Moss Randel El Caldwell(I like him and he could help us here with a full year) Monk(whish it was Art,but I love his Redzone 6'6" frame!) Mix(Played awesome on ST with the no call TD and his size could come in handy as well Thrash if I have a 6th WR....Eagles my get him and burn us with him like they always did!! Gentleman...That leaves me with a 4th,5th,6th and a 7th In no order I will look for the best Available at these positions to complete my draft ranked in importance with the 4 picks remaining!! OL QB LB FB I just completed draft and signed 2 Free agents...I don't think I went crazy in FA...Do you? Now check out this defense my friends? --------------------------------------- DE=Carter DT=Griffin DT=Haynesworth(FA) DE=Campbell (1st rounder) CB=Smoot CB=Trufant(FA) Nickel CB=Rogers FS=Landry SS=Flowers(2nd rounder) LB --- Rocky Marcus Fletcher Blades 4th,5th,6th or 7th rounder Now check out my Offense -------------------------- QB --- Campbell Collins (or a different Vet if Collins leaves because of of Saunders) 4th,5th,6th or 7th rounder RB --- Portis Betts Cartwright FB --- Sellers 4th,5th,6th or 7th rounder WR ---- Moss EL Caldwell Monk(3rd rounder) Mix (Maybe Thrash) OL --- Same (If we need continuity anywhere...it's here!) Keep Todd wade 4th,5th,6th or 7th rounder Fabini sucks and is gone! That's my team for 08' if I'm coach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aireskoi Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 For as crappy as our running game was this year its funny how everyone wants to blame the line for not opening holes yet nobody complains about Samuels, Rabach, Kendall, Heyer, or Bugel. I find it incredibly hard to believe that Jason Fabini was the sole reason Portis averaged 3.9 ypc this year. I dont think Heyer is anything but a career backup who can play in a pinch and I want a stud run blocker replacing Jansen. Heyer needs more time in the weight room working on his lower body strength. He has all the tools to be a starter, remember he was a rookie this season. He showed that the game is not too big for him, he stood up to some of the top DEs this year. He will put in the time in the weight room and improve this off-season. His run blocking is his weakness, that will be improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Once we solve those 2 problems we will be able to run the ball like Joe Gibbs always wanted to and we will learn, ala the NY Giants, that you don't have to have the greatest secondary in the world to be good on defense. Again, the Redskins were virtually identical to the Giants this season in defense. IDENTICAL. They allowed less yards/play and less points/game. And they played a tougher schedule. So, please, explain to me - how is it that the Giants are good on defense and the Redskins are not? As an aside to all those who think Daniels is dreck - I didn't realize that physical freaks of nature that can play both the run and pass to a high standard were so abundant. I got news for you - Daniels is still a pretty good ballplayer. He doesn't have the explosiveness of a great passrusher, but he isn't awful. I can think of a late game sack he had against the Cowboys in the game in Texas when the Redskins needed the ball back where he just tossed Columbo aside like a rag doll. And he is stout against the run. Honestly, I like him moving to DT in passing situations, with Wilson coming in. I'd be curious to see how Wilson does with another offseason of NFL weight training, film study, and working on technique. I'd say the same about Montgomery and Golston, too. I guess I just don't see the DL as being the disaster as seems to be unjustifiably generally accepted on this board. Again, not every player is going to be an All-Pro. Carter looks pretty good. I like the rotation of Montgomery, Griffin, and Golston. Daniels is strong against the run and is a great locker room guy. Wilson has potential as a pass-rushing specialist. Evans is a solid backup. Would some younger, better players hurt? Certainly not, and if the team can get them, by all means I hope they do it. But this was a solid unit in 2007, and drafting a "young stud" just because "the line sucks" and "they haven't done it in 10 years" is pure folly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Edds Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 If I were coach,I would have this team with 10 wins for sure...!!!!Fabini sucks and is gone! That's my team for 08' if I'm coach... good work, I like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Edds Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Evans is a solid backup. I agree with everything you have just said except this above ... he hasn't done enough to merit staying with this team. Our backups need to be players that are pushing our starters for playing time. He has made a few decent plays here and their. But we need to break the mentality that a backup is a backup, we need backups that are gonna be starters. And even though Evans doesn't make a lot of mistakes, he hasn't really done anything to blow anyone away. I don't think we need an entirely new DL, but I think we need a serious pass rushing end to push PD ... I think we need to keep PD, but we need a young stud that cannot only play the run as stoutly as PD, but can rush the edges when needed as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadium-Armory Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I guess I just don't see the DL as being the disaster as seems to be unjustifiably generally accepted on this board. Again, not every player is going to be an All-Pro. Carter looks pretty good. I like the rotation of Montgomery, Griffin, and Golston. Daniels is strong against the run and is a great locker room guy. Wilson has potential as a pass-rushing specialist. Evans is a solid backup. Like many things on this board, people go overboard with the criticism (with the exception of the Brandon Lloyd criticism - that dude deserves it). And the criticizm of the Dline is no exception. BUT.. I have one observation. The Giants DLine had the ability to raise their level of play come playoff time. Seahawks too. And our unit didn't seem to have that ability. I would classify them as "servicable", but not a strength. Yes, I think people go overboard when criticizing the DLine, but if we could get the same kind of raised level of play that the Giants and Seahawks did out of their lines, come playoff time, we might still be fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I agree with everything you have just said except this above ... he hasn't done enough to merit staying with this team. Our backups need to be players that are pushing our starters for playing time. He has made a few decent plays here and their. But we need to break the mentality that a backup is a backup, we need backups that are gonna be starters. And even though Evans doesn't make a lot of mistakes, he hasn't really done anything to blow anyone away.I don't think we need an entirely new DL, but I think we need a serious pass rushing end to push PD ... I think we need to keep PD, but we need a young stud that cannot only play the run as stoutly as PD, but can rush the edges when needed as well. That's fine, and I agree that it would be great to have backups as good as starters. Getting some young guys in here that can push for playing time would be wonderful. That said, if Evans is the worst thing about the DL, could it really be that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Like many things on this board, people go overboard with the criticism (with the exception of the Brandon Lloyd criticism - that dude deserves it). And the criticizm of the Dline is no exception. BUT.. I have one observation. The Giants DLine had the ability to raise their level of play come playoff time. Seahawks too. And our unit didn't seem to have that ability. I would classify them as "servicable", but not a strength. Yes, I think people go overboard when criticizing the DLine, but if we could get the same kind of raised level of play that the Giants and Seahawks did out of their lines, come playoff time, we might still be fighting. I don't agree that the Seahawks or Giants DLs raised their level of play. The Seahawks got an artifical boost from their crowd - they were just getting good jumps off the line. The Redskins just didn't adjust to this soon enough. As for the Giants, I only saw their DL looking dominant in the last quarter against the Cowboys - a good time to be dominant, I'll grant you. They were stout against the run against the Packers, not so fierce against the pass. That could have just been the game plan at work, though. Favre was just awful, though. Don't know if that was due to the Giants coverage or he just had an off day. It wasn't due to pass rush, though. He had time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Just replace horrible with incredible. If you consider 2.5 sacks in 14 games "incredible." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateYanksDukeCowboys Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I'd like to replace myself with a taller, younger, and stronger fan with a better set of hands. Once fans hit their early to mid-30's, its all downhill. The speed and dexterity that I once possessed with the remote has clearly plummetted the past couple of seasons, and its quite evident that I've lost a few steps as younger and faster fans blow past me in scanning the channels. Furthermore, I can't throw down 20 wings and 10 beers like I used to. My WPG & BPG averages sunk to a career worst 12.6 wpg & 7.2 bpg this past season. Sure, there's a place for me on the bench, where I can offer vocal support and down the occasional light beer. However, its time for me to step aside and let someone else shine in the spotlight for the next 8-10 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I'd like to replace myself with a taller, younger, and stronger fan with a better set of hands. Once fans hit their early to mid-30's, its all downhill. The speed and dexterity that I once possessed with the remote has clearly plummetted the past couple of seasons, and its quite evident that I've lost a few steps as younger and faster fans blow past me in scanning the channels.Furthermore, I can't throw down 20 wings and 10 beers like I used to. My WPG & BPG averages sunk to a career worst 12.6 wpg & 7.2 bpg this past season. Sure, there's a place for me on the bench, where I can offer vocal support and down the occasional light beer. However, its time for me to step aside and let someone else shine in the spotlight for the next 8-10 seasons. So you haven't compensated at all with experience? Some would say that your position is more mental than physical... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateYanksDukeCowboys Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 So you haven't compensated at all with experience? Some would say that your position is more mental than physical... Oh sure I have. Ten seasons ago I would just show up for games and dominate on raw natural ability. Nowadays I spend hours stretching out before games, taking preventative breakthrough medicine such as Prevacid. Experience also led me to purchase TiVo, which enables me to increase my "in-game" workload as trips to the restroom for #2 visits don't infringe on my ability to perform. Not to mention, the addition of a spouse during that ten year span gave me much needed experience in formulating a pre-game game plan for those unavoidable errand-running missions that were put off till "later" during my bachelor years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel2 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 -replace lloyd with mix-draft someone to replace/compete with suisham Amen! Stop looking to pay big bucks to players who are looking for a paycheck and not producing. Reward those that come to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Well if I was the coach here is what I would do position by position: QB Jason Campbell - he has a few years to pan out yet before I look for a replacement franchise QB. He has shown flashes and should improve even more this season. Todd Collins - we can keep him as a backup incase anything should happen to JC. Has shown he knows the system and can run it very well. Other teams see that he is a product of this system and wont bid for his services Mark Brunell - thanks for the memories but you are gone. way too much money tied up in a third string QB. Matt Flynn - Showed great leadership in the NC game for LSU. Was only a one year starter so he will fall to later rounds but i take a chance on him because we need youth and a 3rd string incase JC wouldn't work out. RB Clinton Portis - he stays. One of the bright spots of this franchise and have him restructure to get under the cap. With a healthy OL he will be dominant once again. Ladell Betts - time to see what we can get for him. Maybe another draft pick somewhere or another player. I would shop him for another draft pick. This years draft class is the deepest even in RB talent so i would be very safe to take a RB in a mid/later round. Rock Cartwright - resign him for his return duty and 3rd RB. One of the vocal and locker room leaders on this team. Jacob Hester/Matt Forte - i would draft either of them in a mid/later round. Both are big physical backs who are also quick for being big. I dont think Betts complements Portis well but i think either of these 2 will. FB Owen Schmitt - the second coming of Mike Alstott. Kid is a pure beast. he would bust things WIDE open for us and has great hands out of the backfield. Use a 3rd or 4th(pick from trading Betts) on him. WR Chad Johnson/Roy Williams - We need a #1 WR PLAYMAKER and either of these 2 will be that. We need height because we lack it with a passion. Trade away our second round pick to get Williams. For Johnson id trade a second round this year and a pick next year as well. I love draft picks but WR takes the longest to develop and we need someone now not 3 years from now. Santana Moss - will be an excellent #2 to complement our new tall #1 WR. We all know what he can do when healthy and not doubled Antwaan Randle El - great #3 WR and KR Reche Caldwell - proved to come up with clutch catches down the stretch so I keep him around for that reason Anthony Mix - i would love to develop him and use his height to our advantage but he is also solid on special teams so his is a keeper too. TE Chris Cooley - enough said Mike Sellers - i would transition him to TE and get Yoder go. He isnt the best lead blocker but has great hands and get him out on pass plays and he cant be brought down in the open field. OL Chris Sameuls - will stay for now. Pete Kendall - did a decent job and was a good pick up for last season. give him another year or 2. Casey Rabach - leader of the OL and is a solid C so i stick with him. Randy Thomas - is still a great RG and will keep him around for sometime yet Stephon Heyer - he did a good job filling in for Jansen the latter of the season. i think with the offseason to develop i would give him his chance to start he earned it. Jon Jansen - this is a hard one but i would let him go. his price tag is too high and he is always injured and getting older. we need youth here. Todd Wade - i keep him for another year as depth Jason Fabini - he is gone i hated seeing him get blown up on every play last year Rick DeMulling - will keep for depth Mike Pucillo - gone Roy Scheuning/Drew Radovich - one of them will be around in the third round for us to pick for depth and youth on our OL. Andrew Crummey/Jeremy Zuttah - two later round OL that could really be steals with the right coaching. they were impressive to me this year in college and i would use a 6th or 7th on them depending where they fall. Our offense would look like this depth wise: QB - Jason Campbell, Todd Collins, Matt Flynn RB - Clinton Portis, Matt Forte/Jacob Hester, Rock Cartwright FB - Owen Schmitt WR - Chad Johnson/Roy Willams, Santana Moss, Antwaan Randle EL, Reche Caldwell, Anthony Mix TE - Chris Cooley, Mike Sellers OL - Chris Samuels, Pete Kendall, Casey Rabach, Randy Thomas, Stephon Heyer, Todd Wade, Rick DeMulling, Roy Schuening/Drew Radovich, Andrew Crummey/Jeremy Zuttah Our offense would turn out 17 - Returning players 1 - traded for veteran 4 - rookie depth players 1 - rookie starter Im pressed for time i will to the defense later tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displaced Fan Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I would like to replace Vinny Cerato with a real GM!!! That's what I'm talkin' about!! :dallasuck :applause: :applause: :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 If you consider 2.5 sacks in 14 games "incredible." If Randy Moss had 2.5 sacks in 14 games that is even more incredible! :laugh: For as crappy as our running game was this year its funny how everyone wants to blame the line for not opening holes yet nobody complains about Samuels, Rabach, Kendall, Heyer, or Bugel. I find it incredibly hard to believe that Jason Fabini was the sole reason Portis averaged 3.9 ypc this year. I dont think Heyer is anything but a career backup who can play in a pinch and I want a stud run blocker replacing Jansen. What you're forgetting is that Heyer's never played right tackle until this season. When you add in the fact that he didn't have a starting caliber guard next to him (Randy Thomas is one of the best), he played extremely well for the circumstances and showed tons of potential.' The left side of our line would have looked a ton better if our right side was able to take some of the pressure off. Every team knew we couldn't run right very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Oh sure I have. Ten seasons ago I would just show up for games and dominate on raw natural ability. Nowadays I spend hours stretching out before games, taking preventative breakthrough medicine such as Prevacid. Experience also led me to purchase TiVo, which enables me to increase my "in-game" workload as trips to the restroom for #2 visits don't infringe on my ability to perform.Not to mention, the addition of a spouse during that ten year span gave me much needed experience in formulating a pre-game game plan for those unavoidable errand-running missions that were put off till "later" during my bachelor years. It's always gratifying to hear about a true professional - such attention to detail. :thumbsup: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetus Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 *off topic* zskins... i dont understand ur sig... explain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
we miss you scoop Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 oh man,,,what a joke this guy is...randy moss,,oh,,heeeeellllll to the NO!...i would take chad "bigmouth" johnson Replace Brandon Lloyd with Randy Moss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 If Randy Moss had 2.5 sacks in 14 games that is even more incredible! :laugh: That would be incredible, but I was talking about Peppers dude. :slap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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