Campbells Problem

[Ghost of]

We will never know exactly how good Campbell could have been. Danny and Vinny brought in a coach and an offense that was completely unsuited for Campbell's strenghts.

Um, Jason is what he is. His greatest success at Auburn was in WCO-type system. He is what he is because he can't do the normal things a QB does.

This in SPITE of being on the bench for an ENTIRE YEAR, being in Saunders system for two offseasons before being the opening day starter and then getting a second offseason in the system that made him famous at Auburn.

Jason simply didn't pass enough at Auburn. He threw something like 17 plus a game over his career. Now, he did have a high YPA there but I can only presume that in college you can do things you can't do in the pros.

Jason is what he is and always would have been. IF Jason came in with a quick release, good dropback and sound fundamentals and just needed work on decision-making and consistency, you could make that argument. But he didn't.

[SkinsFTW]

We will never know exactly how good Campbell could have been. Danny and Vinny brought in a coach and an offense that was completely unsuited for Campbell's strenghts. If Danny knew the first thing about football and based his decisions on his knowledge rather than an itch to use flashy wide receivers more, then he wouldn't have hired a WCO coach given that Campbell is much more suited for the vertical passing game, as drafted by Gibbs. So, Campbell may or may not be the QB of our future, but because of the mismatch between scheme and personnel, he will be leaving at the end of this year and we will never know.

Honestly, the only offense JC would be suited for IMO is Marty Schottenheimers KC offense. Run, Run, Run, Run, Run, PA Pass. Run, Run, Run, PA pass. That still depends on his ability to complete those deep sideline passes though and I doubt Marty would prefer JC over Steve DeBerg even at their current ages.

[Ghost of]

Yo, Jason can't even do play action right. His PA fakes are wackadocious and he's scared to turn his back to the LOS. They showed Sanchez doing a great goalline fake that netted a TD. He was able to do so because he had confidence that the fake would freeze the free man----TD. Jason doesn't have an instinctive feel for anything out there and thus he can't be sure what that free man might do. Therefore--NO TD, no play action...nothing.

It's why our offense is so putrid. You don't have a guy in there who can do the little things. We don't need an Elway arm or Cunningham legs (though it would be nice) out there. We just need someone who knows how to get the ball to the receivers with the right touch, placement and at the right times.

THAT IS IT.

[Taylor4Life]

Yo, Jason can't even do play action right. His PA fakes are wackadocious and he's scared to turn his back to the LOS...

The fact is that we did go 6-2 at one point against some tough competition (NO, Philly, Arizona, Dallas) with JC under center. If you want to call that a fluke, then that's fine. Then what's to say that TC's 4-1 run wasn't a fluke, also?

As I've pointed out in other threads, the only way a team wins with JC at quarterback is if your run game is tight. That means you better have depth at O-line, and that means depth of the RUN-BLOCKING variety. And you also better have a committee of bad ass running backs that can share the load throughout the entire season. Think Auburn with Cadillac and Ronnie Brown.

At this point, it doesn't matter though. We do not have the tools that would make for a successful running game, and JC is incapable of leading a pass-first offense. At this point, we have nothing to lose by going to a guy who has proven that he is capable of running an offense in which the quarterback is the focal point.

And as for Auburn, I don't care what that scheme was called, but looking at his pass-attempts per game, that ain't no WCO. Not anymore than the Gibbs power running game was an "Air-Coryell" offense. It seems to me that Auburn leaned on the running game, and asked Jason not to screw up the games with turnovers.

[TheItalianStallion]

I love how ItalianStallion and Darrelgreenie still jump in without shame.

You say that as if what I said was discredited.

Some people seemed POd that Collins did well, rather than happy the Skins won.

Who?

[TheItalianStallion]

I love it, even when it's shoved in your face you still bash the entire team to protect your Lord and Savior. Will you check his buttpads for benchmarks after he gets the hook and rises again, I wonder (off the waiver wire)?

When WHAT is 'shoved in his face"? Nothing in this thread has done anything to disprove that JC has been playing solid ball this year, and he was playing good ball at the time this thread was created.

And on the third day, the Raiders did sign him from the waiver wire...where he was still beaten out for the starting job. But just as man does not live by bread alone, so too does a team not live by touchdowns, points, big plays, victories or playoff appearances but by every checkdown from the hand of the Lord. Thus spoketh JC.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, is that you?

[Ghost of]

*slurs voice in Stallonian fashion* Hey, Ita-yen! You'se got nuttin'. It's ovah. It's done! No one..like, no one takes you serissly, anymoah.

In these threads, we had a bunch of guys killin' each othuh over a quarterback. But that was bedduh than tha quartaback killin' tha team like it haz fuh the past 5 seasons.