krsone Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 With our O-line we need a QB that can scramble. You think Manning would be as good if he didn't have all day to hop up and down in the same spot before he throws the ball? no what you need a QB that can step in, not out with confident that has a QUICK RELEASE and that has a good sense of the system. it's common sense. if you know that the Oline is bad, you know there will be more pressure. meaning, you step in when there is pressure, albeit, ur not gonna get away all the time, use the quick release you have and know the urgency of getting rid of the ball faster. along with good understanding of saudner's system, youll be alright regardless how bad the O line is. hard to understand? all that scrambling BS is for fantasy BS. stop dreamin son. you make it sound like JC scramble all the time. JC himself will tell you that he is a pcket Passer, not a scrambling QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtacconi Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 this thread is ridiculous, i'm ashamed of myself for even posting in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFan48 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 are you kidding me...what a joke I think we would have won at least two more games (Bucs, bills) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorcoreskin Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 are you kidding me...what a joke When we go 4-0, you won't consider it such a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondie Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Geez. Another what if game. He played one part of one game. I don't have........nor do you........an idea of what could of, would of happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redshirtguy#45 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 When we go 4-0, you won't consider it such a joke. ??? cuz collins will be able to throw down field like mb??? geez, you would have thought collins just won the SB with all this talk. most folk would like to see the team finish at 9-7, so going 4-0 is fine in my book. just stop with all this collins crud (my guess is you are not as serious about collins as you poat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinlanta Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 You win.......dumbest thread ever started.......where do some of these people come from? And you're 40 years old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Anyone remember Jeff Rutledge? He came off the bench and led the Redskins to a 41-38 comeback win against the Lions in 1990 when Mark Rypien was injured. He threw for 350 yards and 4 touchdowns. At 36, he had the best game of his 13 year career and helped the Redskins make the playoffs with that win. But nobody was mistaking that one game performance given his age and arm strength as a sign that the team should head in a new direction at the quarterback position. The next season Mark Rypien, the object of much criticism in 1989 and 1990 for 'holding the team back', won a Super Bowl in 1991. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UVASKINSFAN Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 If anyone thinks Collins if he started every game would of had a better record needs to take off the shades and come into the light. :cool: I hope Collins plays well but cmon this is a homer thread be real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck812 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 When we go 4-0, you won't consider it such a joke. I would love to go 4 - 0.... Maybe that would be good enough to ge to the playoffs and Campbell would be back! :point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzbeachman Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Of course if that dumb*** Coach Gibbs had started Collins at the beginning of last year we would be 32-0 after winning last years super bowl and only 6 mores victories from the 3rd undefeated season in NFL history. I also think Collins would have convinced the Democrats and Republicans on capital hill to all agree on all bills brought before congress. KUMBI YA MY LORD!! LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Significantly worse.He is not a good quarterback and will probably prove as much very quickly. The best we can hope for is that our recent defensive performances are real and become more consistent, our running game returns with a healthy but blooded Randy Thomas, that we get the benefit of the annual crash of the Giants and Vikings along with the benefit that the Cowboys will have everything wrapped up. If we win out, these will be the reasons, not TC playing great (he does have to manage the games, though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moviedude25 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I'm sorry but this is a really dumb thread. Your asking the forum to guess what our record might be with another QB but since were guessing how would you know he would never have gotten hurt? TC could as likely have won us more games then JC as he could have played one series against Miami and been out for the year. These kind of posts takes away from the feel good moment of the minute. The answer is there is no way to know this really so why ask the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Whoa...Lombardi I thought we was tight like Otis and Redding? Anyways, personally I think you saw a glimpse of the next ten years yesterday.Todd Collins #15 www.toddcoll15.blogspot.com You plan to play until you're in your mid-40s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF4L Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Let's hold off on the knee jerk reactions until AFTER the Giants game. YES, he had a GOOD 2 quarters of football, but lets just wait and see if he can have a good GAME against an NFE EAST opponent. You freaks act like you hope he f's up so you can say "I told you so". Get out! :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Geez.Another what if game. He played one part of one game. I don't have........nor do you........an idea of what could of, would of happened. QBs get too much of the credit when a team wins and too much of the blame for a loss. We win the last 4, it'll NOT be because of TC though some will think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanyt Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Anyone remember Jeff Rutledge? He came off the bench and led the Redskins to a 41-38 comeback win against the Lions in 1990 when Mark Rypien was injured.He threw for 350 yards and 4 touchdowns. At 36, he had the best game of his 13 year career and helped the Redskins make the playoffs with that win. But nobody was mistaking that one game performance given his age and arm strength as a sign that the team should head in a new direction at the quarterback position. The next season Mark Rypien, the object of much criticism in 1989 and 1990 for 'holding the team back', won a Super Bowl in 1991. Well bulldog sounds like were going to the Super Bowl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorcoreskin Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 QBs get too much of the credit when a team wins and too much of the blame for a loss. We win the last 4, it'll NOT be because of TC though some will think so. You're not even giving him a chance to win games for us in your eyes. Way to be objective! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidernat Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I remember when people were saying that about Danny Wuerffel after one preseason game in which he showed he knew the offense well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RypienUmApart Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 1-12...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PosseLover Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 9/23 NY Giants at FedEx, our offense had the lead, if I'm not mistaken the defense folded. 10/14 Packers at FedEx, offense fumbled Woodson returned for game winning score. 11/11 Philly at FedEx, defense let Westbrook kill us. Another game we had that the efense folded. 11/18 at Cowboys...we held our own against a good team without ST...we just didn't play well enough. 11/25 at Tampa...same as above...JC played well until Ronde's pick. 12/2 Bills at FedEx, Defense folded. Personally, I think we'd be the same or worse if TC as QB. Thing is IF our WRs and OL were healthy all year and poor play when we had a lead we'd be 11-2 right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigantor Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 ... but JC is the QB of the future and I think you all know that, but are just frustrated at our bad fortune this season. I have a problem with this reasoning. I like JC, but I'm a realist. We are told by most JC supporters that we can't judge him based on his past performance because he hasn't fully developed yet and he will get better. However, these same people somehow have reached the conclusion that JC is "the future" based on the same data. :doh: Unbelievable illogic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terje Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 what the hell!!! this guy had a decent game and you gotta start glorifying the guy? 50 of his yards came from that one portis play. Agreed. And what kind of passes did he throw, check downs almost the whole time. TD to yoder and about 4 other passes were not check downs that's it. Todd Collins is a career backup and thats it. He is a good backup, he is capable of winning games and that is what we want in a backup. This is the whole reason why he is no 2 and Brunell is not. Todd can win and mark has showed he blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drone007 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 i hope the OP suffers an injury that keeps him from starting new threads. you have no knowledge of football, just like 85% of the losers on this forum ban me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorcoreskin Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 i hope the OP suffers an injury that keeps him from starting new threads.you have no knowledge of football, just like 85% of the losers on this forum ban me. God I hope they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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