tulaneqb7 Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 apparently espnews reported that redskins and raiders are planning to swap a whole bunch of picks that would leave the skins w/ Mo Collins, guard, and the raiders 1st rounder, and the redskins would give up their first round pick. there were some lower round picks exchanged as well. confirmation? has this been posted already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVskinsfan Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Haven't heard that one. We waived the rights to Sanders, thus making him a FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulaneqb7 Posted December 24, 2002 Author Share Posted December 24, 2002 has nothing to do with the sanders situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 apparently espnews reported that redskins and raiders are planning to swap a whole bunch of picks that would leave the skins w/ Mo Collins, guard, and the raiders 1st rounder, and the redskins would give up their first round pick.there were some lower round picks exchanged as well. confirmation? has this been posted already? That's incredibly funny, I'd been thinking about that today. I knew we couldn't trade Sanders, but Snyder isn't an idiot. To say it has nothing to do with Sanders is ridiculously, it was obviously a gift by Snyder to the Raiders in order to grease the wheels for a possible trade. Hmm... but then again, isn't Mo Collins about to hit free agency? I wonder what the vagaries of this are. Also a bit premature, considering the Raiduhs are still playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVskinsfan Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 I hear wheels turning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Very interesting. I'm a little reluctant to give up a first round pick, but I'm eager to see the particulars. Why wouldn't we just wait till the offseason, though? Something smells fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 We'd have to wait until the offseason anyways. The trade deadline has long since passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 whats the word on this? Anyone heard anything new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboykiller Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 I think there is definitely something a brew, and this is why: I knew we couldn't trade Sanders, but Snyder isn't an idiot Exactly TCO. No ****ING way snyder lets deion go for nothing. **** that. I dont care if they are in the AFC west, if they are in the NFL, we do NO ONE FAVORS unless we're getting a little something in return. Snyder knows this, because I, joe shmoe knows this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathByLinebacker Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Collins will be a FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panel Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 The trade dedline has past, so we could not trade Deion. By NFL rules, receving compensation in this mannor would be ruled a trade. So any reported "trade" would be a wink, wink deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNorth Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Anyone have a site for this rumor??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddha Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 I'm calling Bullsh!t on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Yeah, it's BS. Like someone else said, Collins is going to be a FA. If something including him was in the works, he would have to be in on it. I kinda seriously doubt that would be the case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 With Collins becoming a free agent, if this "trade" were to happen, I would assume the Raiders would have to agree not to attempt to re-sign Collins. Which wouldn't even guarantee we would get him. This sounds fishy until I have more information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaganaut Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Yeah, and I heard Rich Gannon and Charlie Garner are in the mix. We could even take Jerry Rice if they decide to play Sanders on offense too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 The Skins can still charge the Raiders with tampering if they don't go through with a trade in this offseason. That's a key fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeCarl Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 It's probably BS, but I'd like to think Snyder isn't as stupid as his dealings with Deion make him out to be. I see some benefit to dealing with the Raiders. For example, if we could put together a sign-and-trade deal with Stephen Davis, it would keep him out of the NFC East and give the Raiders a weapon they've been missing. They'd also do a sign-and-trade with Collins. It's something to keep in mind as we get closer to the draft. I hope it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 The Collins thing may not sound too far-fetched. Yes, he's a FA. But he's also a former Gator. If the Raiders gave assurances to the 'Skins that they wouldn't try to re-sign him, Collins might favor the 'Skins for obvious reasons (though I've heard some scuttlebutt that Spurrier didn't like one of his former linemen -- can't remember if that Collins or someone else). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 This so-called trade of Mo Collins to the Redskins is B.S., I believe. Teams trade CONTRACTS not PLAYERS. :doh: First of all the trading deadline is past for 2002. But even if it were not, the Redskins would not trade for Collins, when he would become a free agent in a few months and could sign with any team he so desired. Then again Tennessee Carl could be right. If Collins was willing to agree to a new contract that was agreeable to both the Raiders and Redskins, the Raiders could resign him and swap him to the Skins in 2003. That would keep Collins from becoming available to other teams. But it would only work if Collins was agreeable to this in advance. :shootinth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefhogskin48 Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Here are the details of the trade proposal, per ESPNews. "Oakland gets Skins first round pick, 3rd round pick, 4th round pick and 6th round pick. Washington get Oakland's first round pick, second round pick, and tampa bay's second round pick (through Oakland), G - Mo Collins and Oakland's 5th round pick leaving Washington with late round first rounder, 3 second rounders, no 3rd or 4th rounders, 2 5th rounder, and 2 7th rounders...plus Mo Collins. " I think this is very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Hmm..., I think that works for me, given the team's needs. Now we just need for the Raiduhs and Bucs to get knocked out of the playoffs as soon as possible. It means we don't get one of those franchise DE/DT types, but that may not have been possible anyways, given our likely position between 12-14. Late 1st round we can still snag a DE, or Manuwai at OG, and in the 2nd round, we go after safeties, WRs, and whichever between OG/DE we didn't get in the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomar Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 the only downside is how late thos 2 second round picks would be. but it would give us 4 picks (thanks TCO) in the first two rounds, which is kind of tasty...but not nearly as tasty as 5 picks would be. Unfortunately, it would mean no Vince Wilfork, and that would disappoint me, but we probably wouldn't end up taking him anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 the only downside is how late thos 2 second round picks would be. but it would give us 5 picks in the first two rounds, which is pretty tasty 4 picks. Honestly, if we were picking around 6-8, I'd like to hold onto the pick and snag a top-flight d-lineman, but since we're not, I think this would be a good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefhogskin48 Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 We would be able to deepen our talent pool dramatically with this proposal. 4 picks in the top 2 rounds, and we could get good safety, DE, OG, and even WR prospects depending on value. It would fill a lot of gaping holes for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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