DRSmith Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 For those that know the value put on picks, what would be the chances of the Redskins being able to trade the first for Alanta's 2 seconds, 3rd,4th and 5th rounders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bantu Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Absolutely zero. The one thing people need to understand is that it doesn't matter what the scale says is worth a #6 pick. Other teams know we want to trade out of that spot, hence they have the leverage and will throw the point scale out of the window. The scale is just a guide, not law. At best, we might be able to trade down in the first and acquire a 3rd round pick. Anything more is unrealistic to expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 For those that know the value put on picks, what would be the chances of the Redskins being able to trade the first for Alanta's 2 seconds, 3rd,4th and 5th rounders? there picks probably move a bit from 12, but here an approximation 1.06 - 1600 2.07 - (510) 2.12 - (460) 3.12 - (210) 4.12 - (78) 5.12 - (36) (1294 points) they would kill us. As mentioned in another thread I would do their 2 2nd's this year (510 + 460), with the 1st (~590) and 3rd's (~116) for next year. (1676 points) http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/pick_value_chart.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 You dont trade out of the 1st round for multiple picks in the first day unless you have the 28-32nd pick in the first round and have few starting roles to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Absolutely zero. The one thing people need to understand is that it doesn't matter what the scale says is worth a #6 pick. Other teams know we want to trade out of that spot, hence they have the leverage and will throw the point scale out of the window. The scale is just a guide, not law. At best, we might be able to trade down in the first and acquire a 3rd round pick. Anything more is unrealistic to expect. Unless I missed it he wasn't including their 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIBBS LIVES Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Absolutely zero. The one thing people need to understand is that it doesn't matter what the scale says is worth a #6 pick. Other teams know we want to trade out of that spot, hence they have the leverage and will throw the point scale out of the window. The scale is just a guide, not law. At best, we might be able to trade down in the first and acquire a 3rd round pick. Anything more is unrealistic to expect. this is true. Because our front office can't keep their intentions to themselves like real front offices do, everyone knows that we want to trade down. And since we've been punked by the Broncos and by the Jaguars, every other front office feels that they can punk us too. We just made a fool of ourselves with this Archuletta mess and everyone is laughing at us saying, "same old stupid redksins with that stupid owner Snyder". We gave away 5 mil to AA for nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 You dont trade out of the 1st round for multiple picks in the first day unless you have the 28-32nd pick in the first round and have few starting roles to fill. We could still use their 2 2nd'd to trade back up to around 17-19 range. With the trade I mentioned it would add 2 first day picks next year and you would still have a first this year. If Atlanta wants to trade up it might make sense for them. Oakland, Detriot or Cleveland may want more then a first and a couple 2nd rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 We could still use their 2 2nd'd to trade back up to around 17-19 range. With the trade I mentioned it would add 2 first day picks next year and you would still have a first this year. If Atlanta wants to trade up it might make sense for them. Oakland, Detriot or Cleveland may want more then a first and a couple 2nd rounders. Yo-yo’ing like that is taking quite a gamble because you have to find a sucker to take your deal. And what GM not named Matt Millen is going to take 2, 2nd rounders for a mid 1st round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bantu Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 We have to realize that we will not be compensated fair value (or what is considered fair by the point scale) for the #6 pick. Quit dreaming, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Yo-yo’ing like that is taking quite a gamble because you have to find a sucker to take your deal. And what GM not named Matt Millen is going to take 2, 2nd rounders for a mid 1st round pick? Well if we got "stuck" with 2 high 2nd rounders instead I'd be ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsWizCubsDukes Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I don't even like this trade. If we trade down we should get into the 8-12 range at most and try and pick up a third. Unless we do that Bly deal, that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeGreen Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I don't even like this trade. If we trade down we should get into the 8-12 range at most and try and pick up a third. Unless we do that Bly deal, that would be great. I agree. I don't mind moving down a bit, but unless they pull a pre-draft trade involving another player, any trade that happens will probably occur while we're on the clock. If I had this decision to make, I'd only trade down if the top guy I'm targeting (this assumes not moving up to bag CJ or someone else) would still be available to where I'm moving down. Unless, the team feels it's smarter to get a couple of extra picks to fill some need positions. And how different of an approach would that be coming from this current instant gratification FO we have now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I reference Johnny Depp in Pirate of the Carribean for my answer They aren't rules, more like guidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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