RiggoReincarnated Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Did anybody else think that when Lloyd and others were talking about the difficulty of the Cover 2 that it was just a bluff directed by Gibbs and that Gibbs had a Master Plan to smash it the next week? Obviously based on the results week after week Lloyd wasn't bluffing. Its amazing to think that this defense could baffle Gibbs/Saunders so much. I really hope that our difficulties with the Cover 2 were directly related to Mark Brunell and not coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Did anybody else think that when Lloyd and others were talking about the difficulty of the Cover 2 that it was just a bluff directed by Gibbs and that Gibbs had a Master Plan to smash it the next week? Obviously based on the results week after week Lloyd wasn't bluffing. Its amazing to think that this defense could baffle Gibbs/Saunders so much.I really hope that our difficulties with the Cover 2 were directly related to Mark Brunell and not coaching. Cover 2 doesn't baffle Gibbs Saunders. Mark couldn't play against it plain and simple. I expect an offensive blowout tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPortJGibbs89 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 We will find out a little bit tomorrow if Campbell can help us defeat this evil cover 2 defense you speak of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 It's amazing hearing the Redskins talk, you would think the cover 2 was designed just for them. I wonder how anyone survives this awesome defense :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 campbell will take chances across the middle and he will open it up.. hes not scared gunning the ball in a tight space.. however, with brunell defenders knew if there were a few steps behind their wr, brunell would not throw the ball in their direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Gut Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 the Cover 2 excuse was just a way for players to blame the offensive production on someone other than Mark do you not understand that all players are coached not only how to play, but how to answer questions from the media and fans? it's all propaganda, the sooner you learn that, the better they know what's wrong and they sure as hell aren't gonna tell the public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPortJGibbs89 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 the Cover 2 excuse was just a way for players to blame the offensive production on someone other than Markdo you not understand that all players are coached not only how to play, but how to answer questions from the media and fans? it's all propaganda, the sooner you learn that, the better they know what's wrong and they sure as hell aren't gonna tell the public Bingo. No one was going to come out and say that we could not get the ball deep and open up defenses. Guys here really show there class and do not throw anyone under the bus. It amazes me the way guys support eachother. I never got the chance to really witness the Gibbs 1 teams , but the way riggo talks on his show is that this is a staple of Gibbs teams, the way guys stick together. Its really incredible to see. As bad as things are Joe I have so much respect for you. I hope we can turn this thing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhettskinfan Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 You guys are right!! Every team plays the "Tampa 2", or cover 2 defense. It doesn't seem to stop Peyton Manning!! Or any other viable team with NFL caliber QBs. We will see the difference beginning Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty-eight Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 If I can figure out how to beat the cover two in madden, the skins should be fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryanjr2003 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 you got to go over the top of the cover two, and with the speed we have at WR there is no reason we shouldnt have taken more shots down field other than an old noodle armed QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryanjr2003 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 everyone goes over the top of our cover 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAILBOMB9 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Everyone knows you use the middle of the field when a D is in cover 2. Cooley should be having field days!!! Or receivers running to the middle and then trying to get as many YAC as possible. Can't believe the team or whoever would use this excuse and think the fans aren't smart enough to figure it out or know themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSO Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Cover 2 was not some propaganda tool they were using to cover up for their offensive production. It just took away the long ball. That's actually what it's supposed to do. That's what Lloyd and everyone else was saying. The way you beat that through the air is to either get a Safety to bite hard on a pump fake/play action, or keep hitting the middle of the field/swings/screens. The best way to beat it is to run the ball well. It's really that simple. You run the ball well, you force Defenses to stop playing Cover 2. We've done that in a few games so far. We have to be able to run the ball. That's really the problem with us. We run the ball, our offense works most of the time. We don't, we lose and our Defense is on the field a lot allowing the opponent to drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planter Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 The Skins know the "Cover 2" is beatable. Two favorite techniques used on us. - Over the top. Isolate a T. Glenn or T.O. against any safety. - Run. If opposition safeties are deep, good teams should be able to run... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21Knock_U_Out Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Payton Manning , Leftwich both torched our cover 2, gee i guess its too hard to beat! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiramu Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Peyton did it without a run game, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneva Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Did anybody else think that when Lloyd and others were talking about the difficulty of the Cover 2 that it was just a bluff directed by Gibbs and that Gibbs had a Master Plan to smash it the next week? Obviously based on the results week after week Lloyd wasn't bluffing. Its amazing to think that this defense could baffle Gibbs/Saunders so much.I really hope that our difficulties with the Cover 2 were directly related to Mark Brunell and not coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneva Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 We run the cover 2...Other teams don't seem baffled by it. Obviously it must be the players and not the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC3 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 The Redskins may have had trouble against the Cover 2 early in the season, but that's no longer true. It may still be used as an "excuse" for the fans to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenskins Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Mark has been so concerned about not turning the ball over that he felt it was bette not to make a mistake than to take a shot downfield. Too much of a defensive mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Gut Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 The Skins know the "Cover 2" is beatable. Two favorite techniques used on us. - Over the top. Isolate a T. Glenn or T.O. against any safety. - Run. If opposition safeties are deep, good teams should be able to run... not just used on us that's how anyone beats the Cover 2... strong run game and the deep pass you would think our offense would match up perfectly against the Cover 2 considering the RBs and WRs we have scream for an offense focused on running the ball and taking shots deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman330 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Did anybody else think that when Lloyd and others were talking about the difficulty of the Cover 2 that it was just a bluff directed by Gibbs and that Gibbs had a Master Plan to smash it the next week? Obviously based on the results week after week Lloyd wasn't bluffing. Its amazing to think that this defense could baffle Gibbs/Saunders so much.I really hope that our difficulties with the Cover 2 were directly related to Mark Brunell and not coaching. Good observation, it could be that we want them to stay in that D and not do anything unexpected. The point is that all D schemes have a weakness. The deep middle is weak on the cover 2, that when Dungy came up with the Tampa cover 2 (dropping the mlb deep). Also just behind or just in front of the lbs can work depending on how deep they drop back. But I think JC can throw the ball deep behind everyone so SM comes back..LOOK OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streater101 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Good observation, it could be that we want them to stay in that D and not do anything unexpected. The point is that all D schemes have a weakness. The deep middle is weak on the cover 2, that when Dungy came up with the Tampa cover 2 (dropping the mlb deep). Also just behind or just in front of the lbs can work depending on how deep they drop back. But I think JC can throw the ball deep behind everyone so SM comes back..LOOK OUT For whateva reason, and I think we all know what that reason is, but the horse died weeks ago, Mark wasn't able to utilize the middle of the field, which as you stated, is the weakness of the cover 2. Even if you drop a MLB deep to help take away the middle, that should give the guys up front a decisive advantage in the run game. Still doesn't mean that JC won't take too many steps in his drop and walks himself into a sack (like Pat used to always do) or fumble a snap, or try too hard to force the action after the defense lets us down again. Uh...I'm not too optimistic about our chances, I don't know what we're doing anymore. We barely even gave the poor guy a shot in pre-season, and now we're expecting him to win against an experienced defense w/o Santana Moss... I'm getting off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoReincarnated Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 Guys, remember Brian Kelly (a really good Bucs CB is out for the season). The only real superstars they have playing today are Brooks and Barber. I'm not even sure if Rice is playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CustomApparelDirect Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Cover 2 doesn't baffle Gibbs Saunders. Mark couldn't play against it plain and simple.I expect an offensive blowout tomorrow. I'm with You, "Brosky"!!! :point2sky Great (VERY Informative) Article on JASON CAMPBELL - from The Washington Times! http://www.washingtontimes.com/spor...23237-3347r.htm HTTR!!! :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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