ahnicaricoohh Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 So are we ever gonna use Duckett or did we really get him just so the Eagles couldn't the end of that first drive would have been a perfect time to use him, dont get me wrong I am not complaining about a win but some of the play calling still baffles me like a run on 3rd n 26 when you're down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 If we didn't use him on those 4 plays at the goal line, I don't think we will even use him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asnpcwiz Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Those would have been the perfect situations to use TJ...7 tries at the goalline and we still couldn't punch it in. Disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsrevival Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I'm starting to think when Rock, Sellers, and Betts made a big fuss about the signing of Duckett, this coaching staff took it to heart. Maybe they don't want to stir anything up or hurt anyones' ego, so they let a 260 pound battering ram in Duckett on the bench. When they got to the 5 yardline I was really expecting a pass to Sellers or a run straight up the gut with Duckett. I guess the Redskins just sign guys to keep them away from other teams. Pretty much like the Yankees do. I don't know what to say anymore. Not scoring seven points with 7 downs to use is really pitiful. I'm happy they won, but it's crap like this that will haunt this team when it's all said and done. If Sellers or Duckett carries the ball down there it's a sure Touch Down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel 36 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Actually it went like this 1st and goal at 2 PORTIS STOPPED 2nd and goal from 1 PORTIS STOPPED 3rd and goal from 1 BETTS STOPPED 4th and goal from 1 PORTIS STOPPED and as far as I know...Duckett WAS active and standing there WAITING TO GO IN... boooooo...cut Duckett now if you aren't going to play him!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel 36 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 sorry...it was actually like this 1-4-DAL4 (9:51) C.Portis left tackle to DAL 3 for 1 yard (D.Ware, J.Ratliff). 2-3-DAL3 (9:14) C.Portis right guard to DAL 4 for -1 yards (R.Fowler). 3-4-DAL4 (8:35) M.Brunell pass incomplete short left to A.Randle El. PENALTY on DAL-T.Newman, Defensive Holding, 2 yards, enforced at DAL 4 - No Play. 1-2-DAL2 (8:30) C.Portis right end to DAL 1 for 1 yard (R.Fowler, T.Newman). 2-1-DAL1 (7:54) C.Portis up the middle to DAL 1 for no gain (R.Fowler, M.Spears). 3-1-DAL1 (7:14) L.Betts left end to DAL 1 for no gain (R.Williams, B.James). 4-1-DAL1 (6:40) C.Portis up the middle to DAL 1 for no gain (B.James, J.Ferguson). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC3 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I am theorizing that Gibbs means to use Duckett to run out the clock when we have a convincing lead. The problem is that we've never been that position except in Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher44 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Atlanta had tremendous success with Duckett in those situations.As a matter of fact Warrick Dunn,half jokingly half serious,said he was pissed because he would get them close to the goal and Duckett would cash in on the td.I would of loved to see him in there in that situation.UNless they want to keep him healthy for trade bait next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TODD Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 3-1-DAL1 (7:14) L.Betts left end to DAL 1 for no gain (R.Williams, B.James). That's the part that kills me. Ladell is a HORRIBLE short yardage back. No reason to use him there. He should be behind Portis, Duckett, Sellers, even Cartwright in those situations. All have been proven to be better on 3rd and short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EersSkins05 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Count me in the group that says barring injury, Duckett will never see meaningful minutes for the Redskins. Especially after seeing the goal-line stand yesterday as a notorious goal-line scorer stood on the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 You'd think with the lack of success Portis and Betts are having in goal-line situations, Gibbs, the master adjustor himself, would give either Duckett or Sellers a try down there. I liked it when we rolled the dice on fourth down. I didn't like our execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel 36 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Atlanta had tremendous success with Duckett in those situations.As a matter of fact Warrick Dunn,half jokingly half serious,said he was pissed because he would get them close to the goal and Duckett would cash in on the td.I would of loved to see him in there in that situation.UNless they want to keep him healthy for trade bait next season. sorry Christopher...but they can't trade Duckett for next season b/c he is a free agent and will run...not walk from the Redskins the second the season is over and sign with another team. THIS is why the trade for a 3rd round pick was soooooo bad....you had him for 7 months...that's it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMAN7 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 From what I've seen, Duckett is a better pure runner than Betts, and it looks like we will lose him in the offseason after never using him...In other words we gave away a draft pick. Its mind numbing if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig19406 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 So are we ever gonna use Duckett or did we really get him just so the Eagles couldn't the end of that first drive would have been a perfect time to use him, dont get me wrong I am not complaining about a win but some of the play calling still baffles me like a run on 3rd n 26 when you're down. I thought that play calling was horrible at times...at least the running plays. Why did we keep trying to run up the middle? Our success running the ball has been around the ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCnDaHouse Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I really didn't understand why we didn't use Duckett at least once. We could have at least used him as a decoy and did a play action pass. I think Duckett could have pounded it in there. Why bring Betts in instead of Duckett??? Only thing I can figure is they thought the Cowboys would think they were gonna pass if Betts was in there. I still find it unbelievable that Duckett wasn't brought in at the goal line. I also agree with the comment about running it around the end. I thought we'd see at least on toss or sweep outside. MC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I have to say that I have lost some respect for Gibbs. Signing a guy and not playing him, esentially placing his very short career in limbo, is a disgrace. Football aside, this is just a flat out shameful, greedy move by Joe. And for someone that preaches ethics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsrevival Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 sorry Christopher...but they can't trade Duckett for next season b/c he is a free agent and will run...not walk from the Redskins the second the season is over and sign with another team.THIS is why the trade for a 3rd round pick was soooooo bad....you had him for 7 months...that's it! Yeah and the way things happen for us he'll end up in the NFC East next year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriangleSkinsFan Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I wondered yesterday the same thing, why not Duckett?? I have been waiting to see him in there in these situations. but....I went back and watched that first drive again in slow motion on the DVR and what I saw was this..... It wouldn't have mattered who was running the ball, there was zero place to go with a pile of bodies between the backfield and the end zone. This was the case on every play where the Skins were trying to punch it in there. At first I thought the O line just wasn't performing for crap but the Dallas D played that drive a certain way and dictated that outcome. If you can go back and watch it, you'll se this. Every one of those downs, there is at least one and often two or three of the Dallas D that doesn't even try to penetrate, they immediately just dive for the knees of the Skins O linemen and take them down instantly, when they went down after that they usually were rolled into another one of the Oline and took him out too. This results in a pile of bodies with linebacker support, no RB is getting through that. As an Olineman how do you counter this? I don't know....but the Dllas D used this technique for all of the running downs there at the goal line. TJ is a freight train and I have been dying to see him in these situations but I doubt that even TJ could move the pile when it already on the ground before he gets to it. The one chance there was to beat this scheme was the dive attempt by CP but that fell short becasue Roy Williams got around the tackle and clipped CP's feet as he was trying to leap over the heap. Had Roy Williams not gotten there it could have been a different jump . That being said....A different play called there would have taken that technique out of the picture, the RB doesn't care if there is a pile of people in the middle if he is off running towards the pylon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APBT Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Duckett has the size to fall forward or scare teams. If I were Dallas and saw TJ in the game I would be keying in on him, and before they know it, Cooley would be doing his TD celebrations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Give the friggin ball to Sellers. I've never seen him get less than 3 yards and he always pushes the pile? I don't understand giving him the ball when your at the 40 yard line, but then not calling his # once when you have 7 chances inside the 5????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel 36 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 the Cooley comment is correct...Down in Atlanta Crumpler is a great TE...one of the big reasons he has so many TD's each year is b/c of the fake handoffs to TJ inside the 5...and then either the dump to Crumpler or Vick would run it around the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinzFoLife Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Gibbs conservative play calling is killing us. Portis is not a short yardage back. We have Sellers, Duckett and Rock and we keep shoving shifty Portis in there? Gibbs is not the same coach he used to be because he simply doesn't have the personnel he used to. He misses a "Riggins, Rogers, Riggs" big back he had back in the day. The Ironic thing is TJ Duckett fits that type of Back to the tee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldflyerBob Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 The problem is Clinton Portis' fragile ego. He has to be the featured back, or else. Anybody see his face and body language yesterday when Betts was used on 3rd down swing passes? Not a happy camper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phixius Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 We didnt even use Sellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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