nneece Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 MB is number 20, ahead of David Carr and behind Damon Huard. Everyone below Brunell are really struggling. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2644425 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkFan8 Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Huard lower than Brad, Romo sits to pee, and Roethlisberger? Kinda strage. I agree with where Brunell is, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceviker Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Wow 20, that high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir L Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Huard has been having a career year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Patrol Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 But Mark Brunell is 9th in QB Rating!1?!?!?!?!1 Doesn't that mean he's awesome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudMouth12thMan Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 OMG... What kinda' clout does this guy have anyway...Gary Horton?:whoknows: Hard to establish credibility when you give one guy a rankng of 17th and 18th after a four pick performance and another a ranking of 16th after a win in his first NFL start when the previous week he threw three picks. The logic here is beyond me... I'd rank Brunell somewhere in the middle personally: Brunell is 16th in total yards, 9th in passer rating, and hes only thrown 3 picks... You gotta give him his due... Numbers don't lie... HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cagorham2006 Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 OMG...What kinda' clout does this guy have anyway...Gary Horton?:whoknows: Hard to establish credibility when you give one guy a rankng of 17th and 18th after a four pick performance and another a ranking of 16th after a win in his first NFL start when the previous week he threw three picks. The logic here is beyond me... I'd rank Brunell somewhere in the middle personally: Brunell is 16th in total yards, 9th in passer rating, and hes only thrown 3 picks... You gotta give him his due... Numbers don't lie... HTTR What kind of due are you giving Brunell? :doh: When you throw the ball less than 5 yards 3 quarters of the game, how many quarterbacks would have more than 2 interceptions all year. The Skins are 2-5 (These numbers don't lie either) with a granddaddy quarterback and people still believe we are gonna win with this guy. WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 OMG...What kinda' clout does this guy have anyway...Gary Horton?:whoknows: Hard to establish credibility when you give one guy a rankng of 17th and 18th after a four pick performance and another a ranking of 16th after a win in his first NFL start when the previous week he threw three picks. The logic here is beyond me... I'd rank Brunell somewhere in the middle personally: Brunell is 16th in total yards, 9th in passer rating, and hes only thrown 3 picks... You gotta give him his due... Numbers don't lie... HTTR Holy Macaroni, it's STATSMAN!....Dunadunadunaduna, dunadunadunaduna, STATSMAN! Obviously, Statsman doesn't have much time to look past numbers and see what's really going on what with all the crime fighting and Brunell protecting he's been doing lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Patrol Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 OMG...What kinda' clout does this guy have anyway...Gary Horton?:whoknows: Hard to establish credibility when you give one guy a rankng of 17th and 18th after a four pick performance and another a ranking of 16th after a win in his first NFL start when the previous week he threw three picks. The logic here is beyond me... I'd rank Brunell somewhere in the middle personally: Brunell is 16th in total yards, 9th in passer rating, and hes only thrown 3 picks... You gotta give him his due... Numbers don't lie... HTTR Keep in mind the mean QB Rating (which is what the NFL uses) might not be the best measure of his QB Rating. Brunell is an inconsistent beast which is why his Mean doesn't at all look like his actual QB Ratings; he's never finished a game in 90s or even 80s for that matter. He's had 3 100+ QB rating games: Indy thanks largely to a prevent defense that benefits from completed passes as it eats up time; precisely what Brunell did on his last drive. Houston who is weak defensively. Jacksonville thanks largely to Santana Moss being an absolute stud. In the other 4 games he has yet to surpass the 80 QB rating mark. His median QB rating is 76.9, which actually comes close to resembling his actual QB rating in a football game (8 point difference, as opposed to the 16 point difference between his QB Rating and the closest actual game rating). Food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nneece Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 OMG...What kinda' clout does this guy have anyway...Gary Horton?:whoknows: Hard to establish credibility when you give one guy a rankng of 17th and 18th after a four pick performance and another a ranking of 16th after a win in his first NFL start when the previous week he threw three picks. The logic here is beyond me... I'd rank Brunell somewhere in the middle personally: Brunell is 16th in total yards, 9th in passer rating, and hes only thrown 3 picks... You gotta give him his due... Numbers don't lie... HTTR Also keep in mind that this ranking is not soley based on QB rating and stats. It is also subjective which is why Brunell ranks 20th. Seems about right when you look at his play and the other QB's at this spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC3 Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 But Mark Brunell is 9th in QB Rating!1?!?!?!?!1 Doesn't that mean he's awesome? His receivers are not dropping the ball too much and yards after catch are there. He's playing a little too conservative for now which doesn't win games unless you have a good defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darc Requiem Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Mark Brunell this year Pass Thrown 1-10 yds 71 of 96 74.0% Pass Thrown 11-20 yds 10 of 31 32.3% Pass Thrown 21-30 yds 8 of 18 44.4% Pass Thrown 31-40 yds 1 of 6 16.0% This is precisely why QB ratings are worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Gibbs Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 OMG...What kinda' clout does this guy have anyway...Gary Horton?:whoknows: Hard to establish credibility when you give one guy a rankng of 17th and 18th after a four pick performance and another a ranking of 16th after a win in his first NFL start when the previous week he threw three picks. The logic here is beyond me... I'd rank Brunell somewhere in the middle personally: Brunell is 16th in total yards, 9th in passer rating, and hes only thrown 3 picks... You gotta give him his due... Numbers don't lie... HTTR Really he is lucky to have only 3 INTs. He hit #59 on the Titans right between the numbers twice and has had other drops also. Numbers don't lie, but the way people spin them can make it seem that way. -16th in total yards but the Skins are 21st in passing yards per game. We also rank near the bottom of the league in passing for 1st downs, tie for 24th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Patrol Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Mark Brunell this yearPass Thrown 1-10 yds 71 of 96 74.0% Pass Thrown 11-20 yds 10 of 31 32.3% Pass Thrown 21-30 yds 8 of 18 44.4% Pass Thrown 31-40 yds 1 of 6 16.0% This is precisely why QB ratings are worthless. Agreed. Very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnFoRcEr_uPu Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 OMG...What kinda' clout does this guy have anyway...Gary Horton?:whoknows: Hard to establish credibility when you give one guy a rankng of 17th and 18th after a four pick performance and another a ranking of 16th after a win in his first NFL start when the previous week he threw three picks. The logic here is beyond me... I'd rank Brunell somewhere in the middle personally: Brunell is 16th in total yards, 9th in passer rating, and hes only thrown 3 picks... You gotta give him his due... Numbers don't lie... HTTR Actually, the numbers do lie if you've actually watched any of the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aghar Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Also keep in mind that this ranking is not soley based on QB rating and stats. It is also subjective which is why Brunell ranks 20th. Seems about right when you look at his play and the other QB's at this spot. I am not a huge Brunell lover by any means but I have to say that the "Big Ben" ranking is a farce! He sucks this year, plain and simple. The man actually looses games for his team. I'd guess he has completed more passes to the opposition than to his own team. :doh: The only guy on that list that should be lower than Big Ben is Walter(Oakland QB) but guess what? Big Ben gave Walter that game. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phixius Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 But Mark Brunell is 9th in QB Rating!1?!?!?!?!1 Doesn't that mean he's awesome? He would be if Saunders used 90% of his playbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hands11 Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 OMG...What kinda' clout does this guy have anyway...Gary Horton?:whoknows: Hard to establish credibility when you give one guy a rankng of 17th and 18th after a four pick performance and another a ranking of 16th after a win in his first NFL start when the previous week he threw three picks. The logic here is beyond me... I'd rank Brunell somewhere in the middle personally: Brunell is 16th in total yards, 9th in passer rating, and hes only thrown 3 picks... You gotta give him his due... Numbers don't lie... HTTR This ranking means little to nothing to me. ESPN is usually looking forward or backward and rank many players and teams by popularity. bahhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hands11 Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Mark Brunell this yearPass Thrown 1-10 yds 71 of 96 74.0% Pass Thrown 11-20 yds 10 of 31 32.3% Pass Thrown 21-30 yds 8 of 18 44.4% Pass Thrown 31-40 yds 1 of 6 16.0% This is precisely why QB ratings are worthless. where are you getting those stats? I would like to see how they compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 The numbers say Brunell isn't bad...he #9 in the frickin' league. Take the hate somewhere else. And, to overlook the injuries on defense is mind-numbing. That's why we're struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Patrol Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 where are you getting those stats? I would like to see how they compare. CNNSI.com. Click on players, go to Mark Brunell, click on stats (on the top bar) and then click on passing splits. That drop off is considerably worse than most other quarterbacks. Examples: Drew Brees (10th QB rating) never falls below 60% completion percentage on any passing range. Rex Grossman (11th QB rating) is 55, 54, and 47% on 10-20 passes, 21-30 passes, and 31-40 passes respectively. All totals higher than Mark Brunell. Eli Manning (12th QB rating) is 50, 41, and 45 respectively. I could go on. The point is, Mark Brunell's completion% drop off at the 10 yard mark is much more pronounced then most other QBs. There is reason to suspect he lacks the arm strength to make deeper passes consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triple6mafia Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 What a generous ranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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