SkinsFan13 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Ok I will be the first to admit that Brunell is not an amazing qb, but all I read and hear about is how it’s his fault the offense isn’t moving. And imo that is not entirely true and isn’t even half true. I don’t care what Saunders has done in the past the plays he’s calling are not working here. It seems to me that he came in and tried to change each players skill to be what he wants it to be. I haven’t seen him adapt to any of our players skills or create plays that help the players strong points. Except maybe the screens to Moss, but he has barely used Moss downfield. Cooley a great 3rd down converter and redzone guy has gotten barely anything for either. He is good at getting up in the short field not downfield with a fast corner right on him. Instead of using his strong points and trying new things, we just try new things that don’t work. That’s how I feel about this offense, a new set up that isn’t fit for our players, and maybe it will be in time but we made it to the playoffs last year, what’s the problem here? Granted Cooley has dropped some he should have caught, but he is barely getting a opportunity. The plays are all called in a way that makes it pretty obvious, when a pass play is coming. Which brings the blitz, giving Brunell no time. Put Cambell in that game last night and I bet they would have a couple more interceptions. Because he is still young and will see the rush and try to make a play and give it right to a defender. I am not saying nothing this season is Brunells fault because that is far from true. I am saying that in my opinion this Saunders system is flawed in that it doesn’t seem to adapt to the players strong points, and is also pretty predictable for a 700 page book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 They both deserve blame, bamma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigredskin77 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Naw man, after last night there's no hiding it. Brunell stinks and his career is over man. You cant defind somebody after they played a game like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Stop blaming brunell start blaming saunders? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewU Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 why defend him, his last 2 playoff games were horrific, and these 2 games havent been pretty for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateSkins Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 How can you blame Saunders? Saunders' plays are getting people open, noodle arm just isn't getting them the ball. Did you see Cooley wide open on the sideline when we had the ball at the Cowboy 20? It could have been an easy TD if Brunell didn't underthrow him by 8 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknzfan1 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Yeah...stop blaming Brunell. I'm tired of this! oh...check out my sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageForce21 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 It looked to me like Saunders had some good plays called. Unfortunately the players didn't execute, especilly Brunell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil_b83 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 what a idiot mark sucks he cant throw the ball no more cant run he suck its not saunders it mark saunders is not on the field. ******* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankRizzo Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Wow....I don't get this logic at all. Brunell is horrible. He makes NO plays down field and when he does they are reminiscent of the cannon arm that Danny Wuerffel and his glove had. And when he's not making weak armed throws he's scrambling out of the pocket and throwing the ball away on 3rd down. How people can think he's not at least PART of the problem is beyond me, but this is in no way Saunders's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sith lord Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Brunell must go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rictus58 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Now, while the playcalling has been cowardly, i didn't see Saunders out there throwing the ball at the feet of receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky*13 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Ya,there was one play where the replay camera was on Moss running 10 yrd's behind the defender and brunell did not even look in his direction,moss was very frustrated throwing his arms in disgust.I have a feeling mark knows who he is gonna throw the ball to when he walks up to the line,if it is not there he panics and throws the ball away or keeps back peddling into a sack. What i would give to have one of the manning brothers as the redskins QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I've made this point several times. Saunder can call any play he wants to - what he can't do is force Brunell to throw the ball. Brunell has check down options and uses them constantly. Who knows how many plays downfield Saunders called? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigredskin77 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Brunell must go. Its that plain and that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armada58 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I don't know how you can look at last night (or last week for that matter) and not determine that Brunell is the one most accountable for the offensive performance to date. The protection is there (for the most part) the WR's are open, and there are plays to be made that just aren't happening. The plays are there, the opportunities are there, the QB is NOT there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewU Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 brunell is being selfish by not going to the coaches and telling them hes finished. tampa bay, seattle, minnesota, and now dallas, all bad performances, just be honest brunell, its over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatBoland Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 You can't blame saunders for the play calling when Brunell hasn't allowed the offense to open up and spread the field Brunell needs to 1) step up in the pocket and 2)throw the ball downfield. He looked aweful for the second game in a row. Too many times has Brunell failed to step up in the pocket, avoid a sack and make a throw. Last night even when Brunell did step up in the pocket he couldn't pull the trigger... he wasn't making quick decisions and kept pump faking and then eventully would either throw it away or get sacked. There is no way that no one is ever open downfield when we have Santana, LLOYD, Randle El, and cooley. Brunell needs to stop relying on just dumping it off to his running backs every time he drops back to pass. I'll give Brunell another chance, but if he doesn't get it done against the Texans then I'd say sit him for Cambell because we can afford going 0-4. I hope Brunell and our D-Line can turn it around. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 retirement is the only honorable option that saves face for all concerned!!! cmon Mark...be a man. it's been downhill for your ever since the second Gints game last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky*13 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Mark looks old and beat up,he has no fire in his belly,and it is only 2 games into the season :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFan13 Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 first of all i never said he wasnt part of the problem because he is, but not imo the biggest part. if your going to reply read my post dont skim through it and get ready to tell me why im wrong. second off, all you people are so quick to abandon any player its pathetic. You would boo your own qb your own players. This is why i rarely post on this retarded ass board cuz its just full of haters. I make a legitimate post about my opinion and you call me an idiot and whatever else. Anyone with a brain that looks at a game with a qb getting sacked 6 times, being blitzed and having the pocket close GOD only knows how many times would tell you there is no way the qb could do great under those conditions. and no i dont think saunders plays are getting people open, the couple times it did happen they were blitzing, and thats part of the reason they got open. We couldnt handle the blitz at all last night. Keep hating your own players, keep hating and booing your own players, keep being so quick to judge and blame the qb for everything. Hey blaming the qb for everything is what this town does best. Thanks for your intelligent responses. Reply with your flaming, thanks for reminding me why I dont post on these boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty420 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 saunders one a superbowl in st loius. racked up the most yards ever in a season has ahd the number 1 offense the last 5 years brunell looks horrid. itsnot even a question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFan13 Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 "The protection is there (for the most part)" wow...bye guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracklock81 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Saunders has yet to even open up the playbook to run most of his plays. Most of the playcalling last night seemed pretty generic and didn't include motion or complex formations. I think most of that was the result of our inability to pass block but it seemed like receivers were getting open but that Mark could not deliver the ball. Saunders has produced in several different positions for various organizations. Brunell has never shown the ability to consistently floursih while Saunders has a very proven track record. I'm placing most of the blame on Brunell but I do think he could thrive if given ample pass protection. However, that's not going to get much better if we can't get Portis back to keep the defenses honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rictus58 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 first of all i never said he wasnt part of the problem because he is, but not imo the biggest part. if your going to reply read my post dont skim through it and get ready to tell me why im wrong.second off, all you people are so quick to abandon any player its pathetic. You would boo your own qb your own players. This is why i rarely post on this retarded ass board cuz its just full of haters. I make a legitimate post about my opinion and you call me an idiot and whatever else. Anyone with a brain that looks at a game with a qb getting sacked 6 times, being blitzed and having the pocket close GOD only knows how many times would tell you there is no way the qb could do great under those conditions. and no i dont think saunders plays are getting people open, the couple times it did happen they were blitzing, and thats part of the reason they got open. We couldnt handle the blitz at all last night. Keep hating your own players, keep hating and booing your own players, keep being so quick to judge and blame the qb for everything. Hey blaming the qb for everything is what this town does best. Thanks for your intelligent responses. Reply with your flaming, thanks for reminding me why I dont post on these boards. How many sacks do you think a MOBILE QB could have avoided? I'm not talking a Vick type Qb, just one who can move laterally. so it's ok to bash a coach but not a player who MISSED OPEN RECEIVERS? gotcha. Don't come back now ya hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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