EersSkins05 Posted June 20, 2006 Author Share Posted June 20, 2006 Going into poker is a slope that I never wanted to try to navigate. I've seen firsthand several guys that lost EVERYTHING in poker, both online and in-person. Also, thanks for the concern, SkinsD, but I don't think I quite require Gambler's Annonymous. I have no plans on re-depositing any money into the account, or ever playing online casino games again. (If the Heat beat the Mavs, I'll still have some cash in the account, which I'll most likely just hold there until football season.) I can honestly say that I felt better last night after my initial post, so perhaps there is some good that can come of these forums after all... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Yes, here they just passed a law that could send a gambler (not the guy who RUNS the site, but just a gambler) to jail for 5 years.It's hilarious. These sites (a few) are reputable and are traded on international markets (London included) as they are publicly-held companies. Here in WA, the indian casinos are a powerful lobby and so they get to fix the market and criminalize the use of the competition. That and the inability to track and tax your income as effectively earns you a severe penalty. It's like the people in government and those that often support them know nothing of Prohibition or any of the failures of previous wars on behavior that SOME find problematic morally but that do not constitute a 'crime' in any traditional sense as there is no victim. :applause: :applause: :applause: :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy Beautifully well said. I agree completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoeRedskins Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 man, sorry to say it, but you feel for a classic ploy. The internet sites will lose some games here and there so that the user feels that they are on a lucky streak. But with gambling on the internet, escpecially with card games, luck has absolutely nothing to do with it. They have formulas and stuff worked in there so they know how much they can afford to lose and when. I won't say that the hands are predetermined, but when it comes to internet gambling (which uses a computer program), they can definately stack the deck in their favor. If you're going to gamble with card games, make sure you do it in a casino with real live people. That way it is at least a little more fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty-eight Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I think the poker games are pre-determined, i mean the **** that you see online would NEVER happen in real life.....one example I had pocket kings- flopped a set, i went all in and the other guy called, he had pockets 8's and hit a set on the flop as well...the river comes...8...dude has four of a kind. **** like that happens all the time online, thats just one example! It's really a joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Now I play poker online, i lost about $100 the first time i started playing, but now im $1300 up in the last 7 1/2 weeks, and im about to quit my job and use poker as my main source of income. I highly reccommend you get into poker if you really want to tap the money pool. :laugh: $1300 in seven weeks, and you're going to quit your job???? :rotflmao: $1300 is peanuts to professional poker players, and you won it against much lesser competition. Build up your stack to the $10K range, then play in some high-stakes games; $1500 buy-in tourneys or something. If you win one of those, then maybe you can consider using it as your primary source of income. $1300 in 7 weeks??? LMAO. If you went to the WS and told everyone you made $1300 in 7 weeks, they'd laugh you out of the casino. Whatever you do, DO NOT QUIT YOUR JOB.You could win $1300 on sheer luck. I'm not saying thats the case as I've never seen you play, but something tells me if you think you can quit your job because you've made a little over a grand in 7 weeks that you're probably somewhat new to the game. Take it slow, use proper bankroll management. 1300 bucks is enough to play $50 NL steadily. Even multi-tabling you can't make THAT MUCH money. Keep your job, play part time and let your bankroll build before you go chasing the dream. Its rougher out there than you think. For every good run of cards there is a bad one right behind it. A cold streak can humble a man real fast and break him even faster. RonB&G is on point...$1300 is enough to play $25/50 NL, but just barely. The recommended amount you should have in your bankroll is 20xBB, so $1000. You could play 3 $10/20 tables, but are you going to make enough to survive?? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I think the poker games are pre-determined, i mean the **** that you see online would NEVER happen in real life.....one exampleI had pocket kings- flopped a set, i went all in and the other guy called, he had pockets 8's and hit a set on the flop as well...the river comes...8...dude has four of a kind. **** like that happens all the time online, thats just one example! It's really a joke... I hear this crap all the time. You took a bad beat....**** happens. Bad beats do happen in "real-life" poker...if they didn't, people like Fossilman and Moneymaker wouldn't win the main event. There would be 5 guys who won it over and over. I'll put it this way....if you're complaining about this type of thing, you're not a very good poker player. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 My problem with online poker is that there are just too many maniacs out there. I quite internet poker ahile ago and now stick to live games. But then again, I'm just a casual player. After losing $50 in one hour once, I decided I wasn't interested in taking the hits you need to take to become a serous player. Maybe after I've made my first million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 My problem with online poker is that there are just too many maniacs out there. I quite internet poker ahile ago and now stick to live games. But then again, I'm just a casual player. After losing $50 in one hour once, I decided I wasn't interested in taking the hits you need to take to become a serous player.Maybe after I've made my first million. Yeah...the unfortunate reality is that unless you've got balls of steel AND can afford to take a massive hit to your bankroll, you should not play poker for anything but fun. There are crazy dudes out there who'll call your all in with rags, and then hit on the river....boom, your done. The great players can shrug that off, and go back and play again the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fight_on_til_you_have_won Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I think the poker games are pre-determined, i mean the **** that you see online would NEVER happen in real life.....one exampleI had pocket kings- flopped a set, i went all in and the other guy called, he had pockets 8's and hit a set on the flop as well...the river comes...8...dude has four of a kind. **** like that happens all the time online, thats just one example! It's really a joke... You think stuff like that can't happen in real life? The very first hand of the 2005 Main Event had two guys flop a full house -- an amateur had 10s full of Aces, the pro (Sam Farha) had Aces full of 10s. Later in the tourney, another pro had a full house and the amateur playing the hand caught a straight flush on the river. Like JRock said, **** happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 You think stuff like that can't happen in real life?The very first hand of the 2005 Main Event had two guys flop a full house -- an amateur had 10s full of Aces, the pro (Sam Farha) had Aces full of 10s. Later in the tourney, another pro had a full house and the amateur playing the hand caught a straight flush on the river. Like JRock said, **** happens. Yeah...I'm no expert, but I've played in probably 50 live 80+ player tournaments, and way more live cash games. The only thing I've never seen at a live game is a royal flush. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 You might be the first gambler that I have heard of who has lost. All I ever hear from the ones that I know is how much they win. Your honesty is refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhow Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 But the feeling I had in my belly as I was going farther and farther down tonight, with my bets getting bigger and bigger, it was really like I was outside my own senses. It was very strange. I know that feeling all too well. I did the same thing with online blackjack one night. Lost about $300 or $400, and like you said, I felt like I was outside of my body. I got my credit card out and played roulette, losing another $100 before finally getting even. I logged out and have not gone back to the site since. It's far too easy to lose money on those sites. Plus, I'm not entirely convinced the casino games aren't fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonBurgundy&Gold Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Sh#t most certainly happens in live games as well. The reason you see so many bad beats online is that you are seeing about 4 times more hands per hour. I head to AC atleast once a month and you'll hear the same bad beat stories there as you will online. Heres one for you... I'm on the button, Big blind has constantly been coming over top of me all night when I make a continuation bet with my missed AK/AQ/small pp/etc. I get 44, and opt to raise this ****s blind to $12, which is the standard in 1/2 NL at this particular table. Big Blind of course calls. FLOP 2c 4c 4s MONEY RIGHT???? I opt to bet it out rather than slowplay simply for the fact that this guy keeps coming over top of me on boards that look ragged like this one. I bet 15 bucks, big blind calls. TURN Qc Big blind instantly pushes his stack of 140 bucks in the middle and I can't wait to call. We flip our cards over, my quads vs his A3c for the flush. Only out to win is the 5c. RIVER 5c I leave in silence. Live poker is rigged!!! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty-eight Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 I hear this crap all the time. You took a bad beat....**** happens. Bad beats do happen in "real-life" poker...if they didn't, people like Fossilman and Moneymaker wouldn't win the main event. There would be 5 guys who won it over and over.I'll put it this way....if you're complaining about this type of thing, you're not a very good poker player. :2cents: I never said i was a very good poker player, I've lost about $40 in 3 or 4 months...I just said that was one example. And I didnt ***** about it right after it happened (I hate those guys) I just think a lot BS goes down on PokerStars You think stuff like that can't happen in real life?The very first hand of the 2005 Main Event had two guys flop a full house -- an amateur had 10s full of Aces, the pro (Sam Farha) had Aces full of 10s. Later in the tourney, another pro had a full house and the amateur playing the hand caught a straight flush on the river. Like JRock said, **** happens. Yeah I saw that....thats poker! It was some celebrity that lost to Farha. Farha is the man! I think he was born in Lebanon:notworthy Sh#t most certainly happens in live games as well.The reason you see so many bad beats online is that you are seeing about 4 times more hands per hour. I head to AC atleast once a month and you'll hear the same bad beat stories there as you will online. Heres one for you... I'm on the button, Big blind has constantly been coming over top of me all night when I make a continuation bet with my missed AK/AQ/small pp/etc. I get 44, and opt to raise this ****s blind to $12, which is the standard in 1/2 NL at this particular table. Big Blind of course calls. FLOP 2c 4c 4s MONEY RIGHT???? I opt to bet it out rather than slowplay simply for the fact that this guy keeps coming over top of me on boards that look ragged like this one. I bet 15 bucks, big blind calls. TURN Qc Big blind instantly pushes his stack of 140 bucks in the middle and I can't wait to call. We flip our cards over, my quads vs his A3c for the flush. Only out to win is the 5c. RIVER 5c I leave in silence. Live poker is rigged!!! lol. INSANITY! :thud: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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