GSF Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Does anybody know much about this guy? The articles that say we're interested in him list him as a DE, but on ESPN's San Fran page they have him listed as a LB weighing in at 265. Would Carter be brought in to replace Lavar or to play DE? If he's playing DE, who would he replace, or would he be more of a rotational guy? I'm confused. Thanks for any comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMagicJuan Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 prolly both....hell, why not...most likely be a DE for us....and LB in some situations...Greg will have fun with him, lets just put it that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinothekid Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 All I know is that he has injury problems. He has a bad back and was on the injury report for almost all 16 games this year. The year before that he only played 7. Once you have back problems you always have back problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147632 Dirk has done the homework on Carter here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMagicJuan Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 All I know is that he has injury problems. He has a bad back and was on the injury report for almost all 16 games this year. The year before that he only played 7. Once you have back problems you always have back problems. your right, thats scary to think....look @ Houston Rockets Tracy McGrady out for 5 weeks with a bad back...and hes had a bad back for the longest time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinothekid Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 That is only homework on Carter before he was in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Grade 72 Expert's Take Andre made the conversion from DE to ROLB in the 49ers 34 defensive scheme. He played in 14 games with 12 starts. He plays in regular as an OLB and sub as a rush DE. He is a tall muscular OLB with good overall athletic skills for the position. He is a competitive player with a good motor. In the running game, he has the size and strength to set the edge when aligning over the tight end on the line of scrimmage. He has good initial shock with his hands and the ability to hold the point and disengage and get off blocks. He can bend and play with leverage but doesn't play at times with real good recognition skills when reacting to blocking patterns. He has the speed to chase and close down off the backside. In the passing game, he is a high-cut player that struggles to lower his hips and change direction in open space. He has the ability to drop in underneath zones and understands coverage concepts but doesn't play with a lot of zone awareness. He is a limited match-up player when covering the TE in one-on-one situations. As a pass rusher, he has good initial quickness and first step explosion off the edge. He has good technique and pass rush skills. He has a long stride length which enables him to cover a lot of ground. He has the speed and quickness to bend the edge and close on the quarterback. He has good active hands and relies on counter moves to gain separation. Overall, Andre is a starting OLB who's physical and athletic traits best suite a 34 defense as an OLB. He is an interesting player that could fill a lot of different roles within a defensive scheme. He has some durability concerns after suffering a back injury in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147632Dirk has done the homework on Carter here. That report is 6 years old. I'm interested in what he's done in the nfl, and what role he'd fill with the Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMagicJuan Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 didnt andre get a sack on us this year or was that peterson?(or even some other 49'er) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 That is only homework on Carter before he was in the NFL. Yes - but he will be back at defensive end with us so I don't think the scouting reports of him playing LB are relevant. Trust me - it still applies today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooleyNaMean Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 I wouldn't be suprised if the entire 49er team wanted to come to Washington after the game they got to partake in our house last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 Thanks for that report Oldskool, but I'm still confused. He doesn't seem like a good fit for this defense other than as a rotation DE. Could Williams be thinking of converting him to a WLB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadKarma Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 former top 10 pick, would be worth a shot if he comes relatively cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3CardMonte Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 He beat Samuels a few years ago for 3 sacks in one game in San Francisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmorina69 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 from the stuff i hear he sounds pritty good, the back problem sounds like a consern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNorth Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 The guy is versatile, think a Willie McGinest type. Realistically he can play both OLB and DE, but IMO, DE is his best position. I agree that he is not the type of DE that the skins currently have on the roster, but that would be the beauty of teh signing, he could bring a whole new dimension to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy2677 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 What other high profile player did we pick up last year that has a history of injury problem?Santana Moss was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the burgundy and gold Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 I wouldn't be suprised if the entire 49er team wanted to come to Washington after the game they got to partake in our house last year. haha yeah we gave them a beating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal2Washington Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 If Carter was to come here, and play mainly DE, he would benefit greatly playing next to Griff and Big Joe. He would face a ton of one on one and Carter is athletic enough to beat top tier tackles. Although I do agree that the med staff better be darn sure his back will not be a problem. He may have hit or miss written on him. Either way I would still grab Kampman, for insurance at worst. :dallasuck :gaintsuck :eaglesuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnacpa Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 If Carter was to come here, and play mainly DE, he would benefit greatly playing next to Griff and Big Joe. He would face a ton of one on one and Carter is athletic enough to beat top tier tackles. Although I do agree that the med staff better be darn sure his back will not be a problem. He may have hit or miss written on him. Either way I would still grab Kampman, for insurance at worst.:dallasuck :gaintsuck :eaglesuck Kampman resigned with Green Bay Friday night ... so you can't grab him. I would look at Darren Howard of the Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal2Washington Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Kampman resigned with Green Bay Friday night ... so you can't grab him. I would look at Darren Howard of the Saints Dang. Didn't here that, got up this morn and took the wife's car to the service center, got home and got on here. Honestly I'd take Howard over Carter. :dallasuck :gaintsuck :eaglesuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Does anybody know much about this guy? The articles that say we're interested in him list him as a DE, but on ESPN's San Fran page they have him listed as a LB weighing in at 265. Would Carter be brought in to replace Lavar or to play DE? If he's playing DE, who would he replace, or would he be more of a rotational guy? I'm confused. Thanks for any comments. He is the Lavar that can play DE. Similar to the Freak that GW just loves for his D. If healthy and we sign him then this will be the best pickup for us. This will give GW the pass rush we have been missing for a couple of years. I will be said LA is gone, but happy with the replacement. Unlike a lot here I think DT and DE should be priority #1 this year, we can get WR's, it is hard to find quality Dlinemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilbur58z Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Williams will play him at both DE and WSLB. I'd imagine it helps our overall defensive line depth because Wynn, Daniels, and Evans (if we re-sign him) are all capable of moving inside to play tackle when Carter's at DE. I also look forward to seeing Carter and Clemons rushing from both end spots on 3rd downs. That's the pass rush we haven't had in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaDRoc Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 The stat line on Andre Carter: 2001: 7 sacks '02: 13 sacks '03: 7 sacks '04: 2 sacks '05: 5 sacks For all those criticizing his "injury problem," he has played at least 15 games in every season except on '04, he missed half the season. But it seems like he just had one injury prone year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azmodeus13 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 I agree - he is a good run stopping linebacker and a very good edge rusher As I said on another thread - I think he may rotate from WLB to DE on pass downs with Clemons on the other end, Daniels and Griff in the middle. What an upgrade to the DL on passing downs... Now if we can get Kemoeatu in the middle for run defense.. wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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