Byner21 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Most of the attention has been focused on FA wr's available, and there are many intriguing options out there. But I wonder who might be available via trade? I have a feeling that Gibbs and the FO are looking pretty hard at this option. This regime is all about thinking outside of the box, from the Bailey-for-Portis trade (circumventing the franchise tag mess), to the huge amount of attention, creativity, and $$$ put into the coaching staff, to the radical, and arguably brilliant, media tactics of Snyder and Gibbs. Looking at wr trade options seems like Front Office 101 to this group, and they have to be considering it. Since we have Ramsey, who I believe no longer wants to be here (can you really blame him?), I think we've got some fine trade bait. What about one of the Lions' trio? Maybe the Broncos sign T.O. and we can pry Rod Smith or Lelie from them. Or maybe we bring one of the Chiefs guys here, whether they pick up T.O. or not. What about Jerry Porter? Wouldn't Al Davis take a good look at Ramsey? Or how about Andre Johnson or Anquan Boldin. One of these guys would be my favorite option, and both teams could use a new QB. I haven't researched the salary cap implications, etc, but I'd love to see the 'skins add a marquee #2 or #1A via trade, and I bet there's something out there that would work out great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizzod Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Trades really aren't that popular among NFL circles. I don't know why everyone keeps going on and on and on about trade scenarios. Trades don't happen all that often. Do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenken627 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Trades just don't happen much under the current salary cap. It may all change in a few weeks though. There really is no point at all talking about any trades or even free agency until the new CBA is renewed, or not renewed. That will make a HUGE difference in who will be out in free agency and whether trades will take place or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Trades really aren't that popular among NFL circles. I don't know why everyone keeps going on and on and on about trade scenarios. Trades don't happen all that often. Do they? Trades don't happen as often as FA signings but they still happen somewhat frequently. I attribute that to their being 32 teams, of course trades will be more frequent. Whether it's the popular option, I dunno. I imagine your correct. The traded player's balance needs to be applied to the cap and then the new team will usually sign the traded player to a new contract. A lot of extra steps I imagine would make it unpopular, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I think it would be a complete waste to trade for a WR, when there are so many good ones that are FA's, and a bunch in the draft. Doesnt make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Oh and on a related note... did you seriously say youd love to see the redskins add a marquee #2, or even #1................ Um.... who is it we are going to find better than Moss.... In a passing offense where no other reciever got more than 220 yards, he ended up second in the NFL? Seriously... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 What is the status on Jimmy Smith. Does anyone else agree that he would be a great fit here? He is old, but still productive (1000-yard season this year). Runs great routes and sure-handed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSkins23 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Or how about Andre Johnson or Anquan Boldin. I would love to aquire Johnson some way. He'd be a perfect fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res_Novae Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Boldin would be better. Tall, elusive, great at the short-yardage game and at breaking tackles. However, I doubt we get him. Moulds or Smith would be better for salary cap and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptimeskins-11 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Maybe Bryant Johnson of the Cards. He is their 3#WR behind Fitzgerald and Boldin. He has been in the league no longer than 5 seasons. Why not trade a 3rd round pick on a good WR than to draft one who you don't know whay you will get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred288156 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I think it would be a complete waste to trade for a WR, when there are so many good ones that are FA's, and a bunch in the draft. Doesnt make any sense. Oh and on a related note... did you seriously say youd love to see the redskins add a marquee #2, or even #1................ Um.... who is it we are going to find better than Moss.... In a passing offense where no other reciever got more than 220 yards, he ended up second in the NFL? Seriously.... These posts are funny, considering that the Skins added Moss via trade...and I doubt that at the time, anyone was thinking "We just traded for one of the Top 5 WRs in the NFL." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Some of these names you guys are coming up with are a bit ridiculous. We don't have anything to offer that we're willing to give up for most of these guys. Al isn't going to give up Joey Porter, Andre Johnson is one of the few bright spots of the entire Houston organization, Boldin is a stud, and I don't see Rod Smith playing anywhere besides Denver and Lelie isn't going anywhere because they're grooming him to help replace Smith. The only realistic name I've heard mentioned in Bryant Johnson who I think could be a great fit, I just don't know how much we would want to give up for him. Remember Rod Gardner only yielded us a sixth rounder and he was fairly productive as a number two for us. I personally wouldn't spend a third rounder on any of the recievers we could realistically land in a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal2Washington Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I see Boldin and Andre Johnson, yet no mention of what we will be giving either Hou. or the Cards. :dallasuck :gaintsuck :eaglesuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byner21 Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 I see Boldin and Andre Johnson, yet no mention of what we will be giving either Hou. or the Cards. How about Ramsey, a 3rd-rounder, and Jacobs? Or there are always next year's high picks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptimeskins-11 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 In Bryant Johnson's case. Maybe Ramsey for. The Cards also need a RB, So Betts and a 5th round pick for him. Maybe the only WR we can trade for without breaking the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byner21 Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 In Bryant Johnson's case. Maybe Ramsey for. The Cards also need a RB, So Betts and a 5th round pick for him. Maybe the only WR we can trade for without breaking the bank. Wouldn't be a bad idea to move Betts this offseason. According to RB coach Earnest Byner's chat, we're likely to lose him next offseason. Betts will want a shot at being a starter, and he's not going to get that chance here. I'd love to see Priest as our third-down RB and frequent Portis reliever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC3 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 List of FA WRs I found at another forum: Aaron Moorehead RFA Colts Andre' Davis UFA Patriots Antonio Bryant UFA Browns Antwaan Randle El UFA Steelers Arnaz Battle RFA 49ers Az-Zahir Hakim UFA Saints Brad Pyatt RFA Colts Brandon Lloyd RFA 49ers Bryan Gilmore UFA Dolphins Cedric James UFA Patriots Charlie Adams RFA Broncos Chris Horn RFA Chiefs Corey Bradford UFA Texans Cortez Hankton RFA Jaguars Darnerian McCants UFA Eagles David Boston UFA Dolphins David Givens UFA Patriots David Tyree RFA Giants Derick Armstrong RFA Texans Dez White UFA Falcons Edell Shepherd RFA Buccaneers Ike Hilliard UFA Buccaneers J.J. Moses RFA Cardinals Jabar Gaffney UFA Texans Jason McAddley UFA 49ers Jerheme Urban RFA Seahawks Jerome Pathon UFA Falcons Joe Jurevicius UFA Seahawks Kassim Osgood RFA Chargers Keenan McCardell UFA Chargers Kelley Washington RFA Bengals Kendall Newson UFA Dolphins Kevin Curtis RFA Rams Kevin Johnson UFA Lions Kevin Walter RFA Bengals Koren Robinson UFA Vikings Marc Boerigter UFA Chiefs Michael Lewis UFA Saints Nate Burleson RFA Vikings Patrick Johnson UFA Ravens Peerless Price UFA Cowboys Peter Warrick UFA Seahawks Quincy Morgan UFA Steelers Randal Williams UFA Raiders Reche Caldwell UFA Chargers Reggie Swinton UFA Cardinals Reggie Wayne UFA Colts Rod Gardner UFA Panthers Sam Aiken UFA Bills Sean Morey UFA Steelers Shaun McDonald RFA Rams Tim Carter UFA Giants Tim Dwight UFA Patriots Troy Brown UFA Patriots Troy Edwards UFA Lions Troy Walters UFA Colts Willie Ponder RFA Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STaylorLayintheWOOD Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 there is no way the cards will trade boldin so just take him out of the equation now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhutanibeast Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Brandon Lloyd is a great receiver. He made some of the most ridiculous catches near the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shallyshal Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 What is the status on Jimmy Smith. Does anyone else agree that he would be a great fit here? He is old, but still productive (1000-yard season this year). Runs great routes and sure-handed... smith, like moulds, mccardell and maybe bruce are all guys who will likely be out there this offseason. smith would be a great fit. he is physical enough to play the possession receiver spot and yet he still has some deep speed. it will come downto dollars, i think. also, whether the team wants a younger player, like moss, who is just coming into his own and who will give the team a solid duo for years. somebody like givens or lloyd would be a great fit inthat way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shallyshal Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Maybe Bryant Johnson of the Cards. He is their 3#WR behind Fitzgerald and Boldin. He has been in the league no longer than 5 seasons. Why not trade a 3rd round pick on a good WR than to draft one who you don't know whay you will get. a good idea. but there is still uncertainty when you think that he has been with the team and was not able to produce or climb above the number 3 spot. they had him and still drafted fitzgerald so you know the cards do not think that highly of him. then again, the cards have had lots of players they chose not to retain. a bad franchise for certain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shallyshal Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 In Bryant Johnson's case. Maybe Ramsey for. The Cards also need a RB, So Betts and a 5th round pick for him. Maybe the only WR we can trade for without breaking the bank. betts would be a fine fit for the cards... in a straight up trade for johnson.. no additional; picks needed to swing the deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shallyshal Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 List of FA WRs I found at another forum:Aaron Moorehead RFA Colts Andre' Davis UFA Patriots Antonio Bryant UFA Browns Antwaan Randle El UFA Steelers Arnaz Battle RFA 49ers Az-Zahir Hakim UFA Saints Brad Pyatt RFA Colts Brandon Lloyd RFA 49ers Bryan Gilmore UFA Dolphins Cedric James UFA Patriots Charlie Adams RFA Broncos Chris Horn RFA Chiefs Corey Bradford UFA Texans Cortez Hankton RFA Jaguars Darnerian McCants UFA Eagles David Boston UFA Dolphins David Givens UFA Patriots David Tyree RFA Giants Derick Armstrong RFA Texans Dez White UFA Falcons Edell Shepherd RFA Buccaneers Ike Hilliard UFA Buccaneers J.J. Moses RFA Cardinals Jabar Gaffney UFA Texans Jason McAddley UFA 49ers Jerheme Urban RFA Seahawks Jerome Pathon UFA Falcons Joe Jurevicius UFA Seahawks Kassim Osgood RFA Chargers Keenan McCardell UFA Chargers Kelley Washington RFA Bengals Kendall Newson UFA Dolphins Kevin Curtis RFA Rams Kevin Johnson UFA Lions Kevin Walter RFA Bengals Koren Robinson UFA Vikings Marc Boerigter UFA Chiefs Michael Lewis UFA Saints Nate Burleson RFA Vikings Patrick Johnson UFA Ravens Peerless Price UFA Cowboys Peter Warrick UFA Seahawks Quincy Morgan UFA Steelers Randal Williams UFA Raiders Reche Caldwell UFA Chargers Reggie Swinton UFA Cardinals Reggie Wayne UFA Colts Rod Gardner UFA Panthers Sam Aiken UFA Bills Sean Morey UFA Steelers Shaun McDonald RFA Rams Tim Carter UFA Giants Tim Dwight UFA Patriots Troy Brown UFA Patriots Troy Edwards UFA Lions Troy Walters UFA Colts Willie Ponder RFA Giants enough players to choose from so that a trade is not needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shallyshal Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Brandon Lloyd is a great receiver. He made some of the most ridiculous catches near the end of the season. but he looses focus sometimes and drops some easy ones. worried he might turn into a gardner like player. still, he has a definite upside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKiNz Jus 2 sick Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 this is probibly WAY out of the question but how about Ramsey, Jacobs and a 6th or 7th rounder for Andre Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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