JoeSkins Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I guess we're the evil empire now. Chip from Jacksonville: Do you think the Redskins have lost their mind? They are paying head coach type money to assistants and inventing titles to give them. What's going on? Vic: What the Redskins are doing is what a deep-pockets corporation would do to competitors of lesser financial means. The Redskins are skyrocketing the value of assistant coaches, which will have a trickle-down effect that will be passed on to all of the teams in the league who don't have the kind of money the Redskins have. I'm starting to think the Redskins are doing this intentionally. I'm starting to think this might be a conspiracy against small-market teams. At a time of fiscally-conservative head coach hirings, the Redskins have gone bananas on assistant coaches. There is something nefarious, certainly rebellious, about that behavior. Is it some kind of reaction to the lack of progress on a CBA extension? Does it have something to do with the enmity that's developed in the revenue-sharing negotiations? Where's the leaguethink? I know we don't care about Redskins info from Jaguars.com, but being a Jags fan as well, I stumbled onto this and was mildly sickened. Conspiracy? Wouldn't that take more than one team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Does he want a waaahburger to go with those french cries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Does he want a waaahburger to go with those french cries? :laugh: :laugh: I thought the same thing. Besides, I think the Jaguars are going to get Mike Tice as their offensive line coach. That won't be cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 :laugh: :laugh: so now the media think the Redskins are the cause of a conspiracy? So we feel there's a conspiracy against the Redskins by the media, and the media thinks there's a conspiracy against the entire league by the Redskins? wow...I'm getting dizzy. Or maybe, the Redskins, know the value of a good coach, and want to make sure they get the coaches they want....hmmm ...The Truth is out there.... Where's Mulder and Scully when you need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Wow. So, this has nothing to do with keeping a good coaching staff together, and have them be about as well paid as the players they coach, and more about the big market-little market thing? Wouldn't that take more than one team? Exactly. I don't find it a conspiricy when only a few teams are doing it. BTW, I don't think anyone made a big deal about Tampa giving Monte Kiffin a big hunk of change to stay as D-Coordinator... Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelvincent Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 :laugh: :laugh: I thought the same thing. Besides, I think the Jaguars are going to get Mike Tice as their offensive line coach. That won't be cheap. Stienbrenner-ize the Redskins coaching staff. This is capitolism, survival of the fittest. There are still only 32 head coaching positions and if you have a good team very rarely will an coach take a similarly priced assistant position over a head coach position. Saunders could've gone to Oakland but lets face it - this was a Gibbs over Al Davis decision, not Head Coach over Assistant decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 I love our staff. -Super Bowl Winning Head Coach -Former Head Coach in Williams -Former Head Coach in Buges -"Should Be" Head Coach in Saunders -Former Coordinator in Blache -Former Coordinator in Lindsay -Former Coordinator in Gray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty P For The Pulitzer Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Someone needs to explain to this guy what Capitalism is. None of these owners are broke, so sorry if I don't shed a tear for some "small market" owner who chooses to go after young, no-named coaches who they can get for cheap. Conspiracy? What a joke. If the Jags just signed a top coordinator to that money, he'd be going off about how great a move it is since there's no cap on coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I guess we're the evil empire now. I know we don't care about Redskins info from Jaguars.com, but being a Jags fan as well, I stumbled onto this and was mildly sickened. Conspiracy? Wouldn't that take more than one team? I think maybe jealousy would be a better word for it. He's just mad because his owner doesn't want to win enough to go out and get better coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hailskins26 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 the talk of a bitter fan, whohas nothing positive to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 You take your competitive advantage where you can find it. We're paying the going rate for head coaches because we choose to hire guys who are qualified to be head coaches elsewhere to be our coordinators and even assistant coaches. We can afford to do that. To suggest that we're artificially inflating the price for these guys is to ignore the quality and credentials of the people we're hiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCB Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Ugh, spare me. And why aren't they kvetching about the Dolphins - they hired Capers and Mularkey (if memory serves) but nobody's palpitating about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Ugh, spare me. And why aren't they kvetching about the Dolphins - they hired Capers and Mularkey (if memory serves) but nobody's palpitating about that. :laugh: that's because it's Capers and Mularkey :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 last I heard, every NFL franchise made a profit by several millions of dollars every season save the poor small market BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Redskin Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I love our staff.-Super Bowl Winning Head Coach -Former Head Coach in Williams -Former Head Coach in Buges -"Should Be" Head Coach in Saunders -Former Coordinator in Blache -Former Coordinator in Lindsay -Former Coordinator in Gray Ok I have to ask since I don't know. where did we get lindsay from I know where the rest of them came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 One thing is for sure, Snyder could care less about the competitive balance and overall welfare of the other NFL franchises. His cutthroat approach to league dealings is in direct contrast to legends like Mara and Rooney who helped build the league. Shoot, back in the 60's, some owners lent money to other owners to keep the league going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCB Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 :laugh: that's because it's Capers and Mularkey :laugh: Good point, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyfan Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Basic economics " you get what you pay for." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Ok I have to ask since I don't know. where did we get lindsay from I know where the rest of them came from. San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Joe Hog Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 You'll notice that one thing the author didn't mention - the most important thing for a true sportsman owner - is that Dan Snyder and Joe Gibbs may have hired these men to help the Redskins win a Super Bowl. I believe that is exactly why they did it. I realize that what I believe must seem naive considering all of the possible financial motives. The fact that the author didn't even consider winning as a motive illustrates how insidious the socialistic thinking of some of these "small market", or as I prefer to call them, "small-minded" team owners has become. I find it amusing how some NFL owners who consider themselves to be Captains of Industry become socialists the minute they acquire an NFL franchise. The owners of teams in Dallas, New York, Washington and a few other cities are already sharing revenues with these parasites. Should the large market team owners who want to win now refrain from hiring the best assistant coaches they can get so that assistant coaching salaries won't be driven up and the small-minded owners will have the leverage to force the best assitants to accept head coaching jobs in their crappy organizations in order to get a raise? Some of these small-minded owners never had a revenue generating marketing idea in their lives. Yet when Jerry Jones proposed some excellent ideas in which they could share, they didn't want any part of it. When Jones proceeded on his own, they complained loudly that they weren't getting their share of his money. They could at least try to generate more revenue and use some of it to compete harder rather than just crying for a handout from the large market teams. If the small-minded owners don't have enough money to afford their own NFL team to play with, I say they should sell their teams to somebody who does. Then the NFL can get back to the capitalist idea of competition and ditch the socialist idea of "parity". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoReincarnated Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 One thing is for sure, Snyder could care less about the competitive balance and overall welfare of the other NFL franchises.QUOTE] Of course not, he's Jewish lol...and this is a capitalist country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36HAMMER Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I've called the wambulance,what a baby.is it time for a diaper change ? all i can say is go to your room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thespaniard Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 last I heard, every NFL franchise made a profit by several millions of dollars every seasonsave the poor small market BS But lots of those small market teams were nowhere near the salary cap...that might be part of the reason they were profitable? I'm pretty sure they Saints were un-profitable this year, but of course that is extraordinary circumstances. Whatever, I'm a Yankee fan, so I'd be a hypocrite to complain about the skins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thespaniard Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I realize that what I believe must seem naive considering all of the possible financial motives. The fact that the author didn't even consider winning as a motive illustrates how insidious the socialistic thinking of some of these "small market", or as I prefer to call them, "small-minded" team owners has become. I don't think it's fair to call an owner small minded just because his team caters to a smaller market. Some cities have millions of people to draw revenue from, some just have a couple hundred thousand. What's the owner supposed to do, come up with a better 'marketing plan' to market his team to people in other cities? Also, winning and making money as motives go hand in hand: you win, you make more money. The two are almost synonymous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 One thing is for sure, Snyder could care less about the competitive balance and overall welfare of the other NFL franchises.His cutthroat approach to league dealings is in direct contrast to legends like Mara and Rooney who helped build the league. Shoot, back in the 60's, some owners lent money to other owners to keep the league going. Course, nowadays, the league isn't in danger of that, and I'm sure even for Rooney and Mara, their franchises would come first. Snyder has earned the money he's made. Why should he spend it as he wants to, for the most part? There is no salary cap for coaches, and there probably never will be. Basically, he runs the Skins like a business, and you pay to retain the best people to manage things. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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