wpenn1 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I have been forced to watch some Panthers games this year because I live in NC and I must say their team reminds me of the Redskins in alot of ways. Both have good defenses however we have the better running game. However the most glaring similarity is that we both have one great wide receiver. Here is my question. Everyone knows that when they play the skins that they must double Moss and some of them have been sucessful at taking him out of the game. That being said everyone knows they must double Smith however the Panthers always find a way to get him the ball either through reverses or different formations. And to take it further the panthers dont even have a cooley. How are the Panthers able to utilize Smith so much although he is their only threat and why arent we able to do the same with Moss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 We were utilizing Moss well the first half the season and then again in the Dallas and New York game. It just sort of appears and disappears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandies Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 84 catches for 1483 yards, must of done something right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozskin Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I think it's pretty simple. Jake Delhome is a better passer of the ball than Mark Brunell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Kenzo Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I think it's pretty simple. Jake Delhome is a better passer of the ball than Mark Brunell. I agree. Plus Delhomme and Smith have played longer together while Brunell and Moss have only had this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonef1de Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I think a lot of it has to be that when he has to Jake will throw to Colbert and Proehl. But I do agree it seems like the Panthers throw a screen or hitch about every three plays and no one comes up to the line and tries to jump the route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Happy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 They really don't use Smith that much more than Moss. Smith had 80 more yards than Moss over the course of the 16 game season. I think you are just looking at the Chicago game as if it is normal for Steve Smith to have a game like that. That was well above average for even him. He has his share of games where he disappears too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dance04 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 They really don't use Smith that much more than Moss. Smith had 80 more yards than Moss over the course of the 16 game season. I think you are just looking at the Chicago game as if it is normal for Steve Smith to have a game like that. That was well above average for even him. He has his share of games where he disappears too. smith had 103 receptions and 12 td's. He didn't have that many games where he disappered. it seems like everytime i looked on the tv he was getting at least 8 catches a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inevitable Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 To me, it seems that Smith is tougher then Moss, but I think that Moss is a bit quicker/agile and faster. Although the Panthers, as the commentators jokingly versed on sunday, have two game plans: The Panthers offense, and the Steve Smith offense. I think they try to get him the ball more often then we do, however, both teams employ the same kind of plays: end arounds, WR screens, etc. Smith is better at going across the middle, IMO. Moss is better at the screens and adjusting to the deep ball. I think Smith is a little stronger, but as I said, it seems that Moss has a faster game speed then SMith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1SkinsFan Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 To me, it seems that Smith is tougher then Moss, but I think that Moss is a bit quicker/agile and faster. Although the Panthers, as the commentators jokingly versed on sunday, have two game plans: The Panthers offense, and the Steve Smith offense. I think they try to get him the ball more often then we do, however, both teams employ the same kind of plays: end arounds, WR screens, etc. Smith is better at going across the middle, IMO. Moss is better at the screens and adjusting to the deep ball. I think Smith is a little stronger, but as I said, it seems that Moss has a faster game speed then SMith. 100 % agreed. I did realize that Moss didnt come across the middle tha much. Smith took some shots coming across the middle. (ex. Tampa Bay game). Both are unique and can do things their way with the ball which is why i'm glad both of them are going to the pro-bowl. They deserved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDevil Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I noticed that too but after reading the reponses here... I agree. Lots of different factors to account for like playing time together and different routes. Even though both wear the 89 both of them are much different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnabb2freddie2k4 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Steve Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCRoughrider Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I think it's pretty simple. Jake Delhome is a better passer of the ball than Mark Brunell. Actually, the Panthers "other" receivers are much better than ours, is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Happy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 it seems like everytime i looked on the tv he was getting at least 8 catches a game Then you must have missed more than half of his games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FedEx_Skinz Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 84 catches for 1483 yards, must of done something right Did anyone else notice that we went away from that left screen that was so effective in the reg. season. I didn't see that play at all against Tampa, I seen it once in the Seattle game and it was to the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 The Panthers do have a #2 receiver. In addition, like many have said, Delhomme (sp?) and Smith have had much more time together. In addition, I hate to say it, but Smith is arguably the best receiver in the league. He's got everything. Don't get me wrong, Santana is a beast, and I'm so happy to have him, but he's not Steve Smith. Although, he's not far behind him, but I think Smith will always get the edge because of his height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan086 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 There are a number of factors, some of which have been mentioned already. Their ability to get their numbers 2 and 3 receivers involved helps a lot. They are better at the receiver position than we are. The fact that they have Delhomme instead of Brunell can't hurt either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozskin Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Actually, the Panthers "other" receivers are much better than ours, is what it is. That is true. They are better, but not by much. I still think Delholme is just better. It would also have a bit to do with what Lil Kenzo said. That Smith and Delholme have worked together for alot longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpass Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I believe that Smith and Moss are one in the same. They are about the same height and are fast (moss a little faster i think) and they both can catch anything in the air. Watch what they do together in the pro bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neerajk4 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 are you kidding? smith and moss are so similar its not even funny. They have the most yards in the league (moss is 2nd), both are clearly the only dangerous reciever on their team, and both are so fast and quick that teams have to double cover them in order to try and stop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinklein Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Carolina has other recievers that can make plays, hence taking some of the pressure off of Smith. We don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future_Redskins_QB Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 moss is better overall its just that smith has played with delhomme for awhile now and this is only the first year of the moss brunell combo. once they workout a better chemistry by next year moss is gonna be top in yards. having delhomme instead of brunell is why smith beat moss in receiving yards this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I live in NC too and see most of the Panthers games. They do have a Cooley, his name is Kris Mangum. Also, the have Ricky Proehl and Keary Colbert...both good starting WRs. Then you throw in Smith and a fairly accurate Delhomme and you have an awesome passing game. On top of that they have Deshaun Foster who is extremely productive and they have Stephen Davis who until last year, was also extremely productive. This makes for a great offense. The main thing is they have two other starting WRs who are healthy and can make plays. Hopefully next year Patten will be completely healthy and we will pick up a third receiver who can make plays. You have to remember that Patten's been struggling with his injury all year, when he's healthy he can be a threat. Also, it would help if we could either develop Jason Campbell or somehow prevent Brunell from being injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinzelwashington Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 this thread merges into, delhome vs brunell... whos the better qb righ tnow?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers22 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 84 catches for 1483 yards, must of done something right He did 84 things right. I really think it was just the QB's and our tougher schedule that limited what we did with Moss. Give us another year and we'll adapt the offense more to his speed and style. The Carolina passing game is built around Smith, we didn't think Moss would have such a breakout year. Gibbs will craft some plays and we'll see next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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