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Avengers blip was the scariest thing I will go thru today. Lol

Feeling great about tonight

Just now, Dah-Dee said:

That's why I've got us drafting Sam Hartman's Hair in the 6th, and the rest of Sam in the 7th. 

Man is a walking QB controversy. As a dude who is confident in his straightness I can say he is too good lookin'.

Get ugly or bust. You can't look like that and be an NFL QB. Its not fair to the rest of us.

I don't see us or the Pats trading out.

Final check in on the mock draft world has us taking JD in 75% of mocks over the last week. That's the high-watermark for the entire process.

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-drafts/2024/consensus-mock-draft-one-week-2024

5 minutes ago, DogofWar1 said:

I hope Peters puts this on a 100 inch screen and tapes Jayden's eyes open and says "See this!  Do not do this!"

Yup

Will Levis has the worst protective instinct I have ever seen at QB. Its non-existent.

That clip did not even show his worst one and the lowest football IQ play in the NFL last year

Absolute inverse of what we need to see from JD

We eating good when it comes to prospect access near draft day.

Here is some insight on what JD goes through at mealtime

Quick hitters

-He eats beef!

-Didn't care about nutrition until LSU

-Working with a nutritionist to continue to build.

-Luvs honey buns

Lots of good meat on the bone in this one

Couple of highlights for me

-Said all these draft QBs have similar skillsets of being athletic, so JD does not comp to himself any harder than the other guys

-Said he personally talked to JD about protecting himself better. Acknowledged that he himself was poor at sliding and when he finally reached that "ah ha" moment of needing to slide more in his own career, it was 2013 and the knee brace made it difficult.

-Had a cool introspective about progressions and the virtual reality Jayden uses. It forces him to process faster by only making information available for a short period.

-Spoke about how fast you gotta take info in at the NFL level, otherwise you get sacked. Spoke of JDs ability to eliminate routes from his tree based on coverage, which speeds you up

Same place I've been the whole time.

We come outta this w/ a blue chip QB I'm good. There are several available. Its like having a bunch of fish in a barrel. Can't miss.

If we somehow walk outta without a blue chip QB... I got beef and its everybody's problem.

Just now, rockluc said:

Don’t give up hope. Maybe he’ll hit puberty over the summer. 😞

I'm pretty sure Laron Landry went thru like puberty like 4 times.

I'm just saying its possible

Just now, BayouBrave86 said:

If JD isn’t willing to take the vet min plus incentives, I don’t want him here. 

A rookie who wants VETERAN minimum?!

The absolute nerve!

Take him off the draft board!

He has to keep saying it for the people in the back

Text from tweet:

Reporter: “There’s speculation that you may not want to go to Washington. Do you want to just squash that?”

Jayden Daniels: “I’m blessed to go wherever I’m called. Whoever calls my phone, (when the) commissioner gets up and says my name, I’ll be blessed, and they’re going to get my all.”

Reporter (later): “To clarify, would you be OK being drafted by Washington?”

JD: “Yeah. 100 percent.”

During the lengthy interview, Daniels repeatedly said he’s not sure what to expect tomorrow night and wants to go as high as possible.

1 hour ago, Llevron said:

From the same interview that the tweet quotes.

Peeps just taking headline sensationalism and running with it to fit a narrative.

He was directly asked about QBs that could run, and responded in kind. And as you posted, he and the article itself even clarified that he was more than just a running guy.

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I'd be remiss not to talk about Daniels' ability as a passer. While he's a prolific runner, Daniels is even better at throwing the football. At LSU, Daniels made every throw you can draw up while taking advantage of a deep receiving corps that included likely first-round picks Malik Nabers and Brian Thomas Jr. 

Total nothingburger in terms of things to worry about in that article, unless you scissor snippets out of context as some people have just to make it fit your point.

Speaking of snipping things out of context from that article, you guys wanna know what passage I liked?

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Daniels acknowledged that NFL teams have told him they "want me to be smarter about the hits that I take." 

 

"They know I'm very competitive," Daniels said. "You want to think that you can beat that guy and get that extra five yards, or maybe if you beat him you go down the sideline for 60. 

 

"When to get down, when to not. There's a balance." 

YES. Yes to all of that.

Recognize and work on it my guy

11 minutes ago, KDawg said:

People who are in the Jayden Daniels camp and can’t fathom why anyone would be worried:

 

Can you not see people’s concerns with Daniels?

I have repeatedly and unsubtle-ly recommended that he be hunted like human game by a slide coach who just happens to be a near religious zealot in his determination to see Jayden improve his slide form. 

Jayden has flaws and concerns. I see a bunch.

I would honestly question the evaluation ability of someone was to review a prospect and not come away with a laundry list of issues on any project.

5 minutes ago, skinsmania123 said:

if there is so much concern about injury risk, why wouldn't you take Maye over Daniels?  

 

In regards to injury possibility specifically, while JD is the bigger injury risk, I feel much better going in that direction when the other guy is also a decent candidate to get his head taken off at the next level as well. Maye sux at protecting himself too and has seen his way to the blue tent all the same. Kinda helps mitigate that specific fear when its gonna be a problem regardless... if that makes sense.

We are gonna make other teams defend every blade of grass. Exciting to think about.

Current state of Zombie:

All natural. No drugs necessary.

3 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Yeah I gather it would be tempting

I hear Shohei Ohtani knows a guy

I won't link the vid b/c it delves into some non-stadium topics, but Rich Eisen was talking to RG3 about the top QBs

Rich straight up asks Griff about RG3 phobia from the Washington fanbase when specifically looking at JD.

Cliffnotes

-Griff thanked him for asking b/c a lot of people were afraid to.

-Said that he himself has heard often that there are fans in washington scared of JD because he reminds them of himself

-He said the first thing to focus on is that JD is better than he was coming outta college "point-blank period"

-Followed with all the QBs in this draft class are athletic. Its the new prototype for NFL QBs. They all extend plays, they all put themselves in harms way at times.

-Dont use what happened to himself against JD

-Was confident Wash fans would want another 2012

-Just enjoy what is in front of you

-Guys are always gonna get hurt, cant stop it even w/ all the new rules. Referenced Burrow directly.

I think that Scout D account is run by Maye's agent lol.

That dude has been in the weeds this whole cycle.

38 minutes ago, Bifflog said:

There's not enough hours in the day to explain this reference and the underlying comparison, my advice would be to ignore it because it's about a stupid cartoon that you never would have seen if you aren't of millennial  age

Hes a good and respectable fighter/football player, but he can't go super sayian so he's virtually useless against big-bads/winning championships.

Boom

2 minutes ago, CapsSkins said:

This lens is why I started coming around on McCarthy. Sure Maye and Daniels are more physically talented, perhaps even significantly so. But if McCarthy is good enough, and he's far better at the mental stuff... does that end up winning the day? 

That's a question better suited for someone who studied him.

I watched zero film on the guy to know if he meets the baseline.

I don't even know what the "JJ" stands for. 

13 minutes ago, CapsSkins said:

I wonder at what point the physical tools & abilities hit the threshold of "good enough" and then the mental/intangible stuff takes over. Like, at what point does marginal improvement in physical traits become less compelling than meaningful jumps in leadership & intangibles? Or is that not the right way to look at it? 

I think your on the right track, at least for QB. Being great requires such high level thinking. You could have the best bod in the world but that only gets you so far in the NFL.

Uber physical traits are still great and desired, but only if they come with other intangibles as well. Your not taking an Anthony Richardson when a CJ Stroud or Bryce Young is available, only in their absence.

Now every other position? U can get the big dumb guy and turn out OK if he is a physical specimen.

Gronk Smash

7 minutes ago, clskinsfan said:

Cousins is the gift that keeps on giving to franchises.

If that is a sizable boon in Minns favor I'll prob change my prediction.

They might just get the ammo to godfather NE.

31 minutes ago, CommanderInTheRye said:

Predict the top 5 picks (with trades) for bragging rights.

1 Chi/Caleb

2 Wash/Daniels

3 NE/Maye

4 Ariz/Harrison

5 Minn/JJ

7 minutes ago, The Consigliere said:

Lamar absolutely annihilated Daniels numbers in terms of QBR every single year of college, save for Daniels QBR as a 5th year senior, and even at that age, Lamar was still better because Lamar was doing the same thing, but at the NFL. A #1 QBR ranking in college as a 5th year senior at age 22 does not trump a #1 QBR ranking in the NFL, at age 22, which is what Lamar produced in his 2nd year.

 

I'm not gonna argue he was polished coming out, he wasn't, but he was a better prospect, period every single year of college in comparison except for Daniels '23, and even Daniel's '23 isn't more impressive than Lamar's profile when you compare what they were doing at similar ages. Lamar didn't need five freaking years to produce a season like Daniels produced in '23, he did that in his second year of college, in 2016, earning 4th in overall QBR #'s, which not coincidentally was why you saw him listed inside a bunch of top 3's and top 5's after the 2017 NFL draft in late April and May of  '17. I don't really know why he fell like he did, though I know that Simmons never stops mentioning how irate he and Patriots fans were when they passed on a dropping Lamar for Sony Michel...but it seems quite clear that the argument that Daniels is or was a better prospect has to be premised on totally ignoring everything Daniels did for 80% of his college seasons which is just ridiculously silly, especially when you compare what they were doing at similar ages, it's no contest. The NFL botched this, period. 

I smashed this same basic argument when we acquired Wentz. Dude was coming off a great QBR year but it is a virtually worthless metric when directly comparing QBs. They are all asked to do drastically different things. I don't care that Lamar had a great QBR, he could barely complete passes at the college level. He never had a season w/ more than 60% completion percentage. That is absurdly terrible.

Lamar was a poor passer coming out of college. Great player. Had the potential for great impact, but a poor passer. Full stop. Any other determination is particularly laughable.

End of the day, if you think you have an argument that a dude who was barely a first rounder and taken QB5 is the same level of prospect as a dude who is very likely going in the tippy top of the draft and scouts have rated higher than the better half of recent #1s then you need to re-evaluate your scouting method and stop incorporating what he has done once he entered the league. Lamar was not an elite prospect, or he would have been treated like one. He became one of the NFLs best players.

5 minutes ago, Warhead36 said:

God its just as I feared: Quinn wants Daniels and Peters is gonna succumb to him. 

 

Don't have to worry about second contracts because since we're gonna eff this pick up everyone's fired in 3 years.

1 minute ago, samy316 said:

I think a LOT of our fans need to step away from the ledge, get some xanax or mary jane in them or something, and leave the drama alone.

8 minutes ago, Llevron said:

Isn't KK credited for guys like Mahomes and Williams and their ability to move in the pocket while keeping eyes down the field? Any of you think he could be the prefect teacher for Daniels and sure up his one real weakness? Kinda would be excited to see what he could do with him. 

I've said it more than once, I luv the potential coach fit of both KK and Johnson(Philly). The schemes they have run, the players they have been around, tried to recruit and coached... Yes plz. Couldn't ask for a better hodgepodge of young and talented QB collection than Mahomie, Hurts, Murray, Caleb, Baker and even Keenum(all time college passer leader) and Manziel(heisman pose).

If I was making a short list of NFL offensive coaches that I would want to pair with JD directly, there are not a lot of others that I would prefer.

Gimmie.