GOATFrerotte

Nice play, let's go Terry!!!

Nice second effort!

Alright offense, let's look a little better this drive.

Dang that would be a huge loss for Dallas. Gotta feast on this o line

Bend don't break!

Ughhh, 3rd and long, had their chance.

Game time lets gooooooo!! A dub here would be nice.

You said it’s not logical to expect a rookie to have technique to beat double teams and I just mentioned that there was a rookie last year who was one of the better ends in the league at beating them. No matter what data you look at Bosa was one of the best d ends in the league last year, not even just comparing him to rookies. And Chase was actually touted as being a better prospect than Nick. I was just hoping for a little competition with Nick and it’s not even close. There is nothing you can compare the two with.

I’m pretty sure Bosa was 4th in the league last year at beating double teams. There’s just no way around it, Bosa was an absolute stud as a rookie and we just have to hope Chase learns and doesn’t end up like a Clowney.

You keep saying ridiculous things. No one is saying anything like that. But why exactly is it unreasonable to expect him to have one of the better rookie seasons of all time? Especially after what we saw from the #2 pick last year. Not gonna lie it’s a little disappointing that we’re listing off 50 excuses about why he’s not producing instead of pointing to actual production.

It's really not that deep to have a gimmick. I was just hoping for more production out of our #2 draft pick and disappointed that he's not even close to playing like the #2 pick did last year.

It's a rhetorical question. It's obvious that it's reasonable to expect a #2 pick to produce like or better than previous edge rushers their rookie season. The fact you tried to say it isn't reasonable is what's interesting.

You're being incredibly childish with your posts. No one is saying he has to be the best in the league. Is it not reasonable to expect him to be one of the better rookie D ends of all time like the #2 pick from last year?

Seems like a ton of excuses for me. The numbers aren't even close. 50 to 18. Seems reasonable to want more production out of a #2 pick and a pick where you don't have to list off 50 excuses for him not producing. I mean, to me, that's a reasonable expectation.

Nick Bosa at this time last year had about 50 and ended the season with 80. Is it really that unreasonable to want that kind of season out of our #2 pick? One where he's not 2nd to other rookies but up there with the rest of the league because he's so good. I don't know, seems reasonable to me.

Wrong Bosa and no, I don't think what he's done is special at all Edit: I just looked up the other Bosa and he had 10.5 sacks as a rookie so you have the wrong guy completely.

Agreed, I don't think it's unreasonable at all to hope and expect the #2 can't miss pick in the draft to do something special as a rookie. Like it would be cool to have someone that is top 10 in something or pushing for rookie records. Nick Bosa looked special last year and you could compare his numbers to elite ends who aren't even rookies. Our guy is playing through an injury, getting doubled too much, players around him aren't good enough, etc, etc, etc, etc.

No, numbers aren't all that matters but they are important. Like you'd like to see some production in the backfield like hits on the qb, tackles for loss, pressures, etc. I'm just saying people questioning Chase's pass rushing effectiveness have legitimate concerns and it's not comparable to complaining about him only having 10 sacks because he doesn't. He doesn't really have any numbers that are good enough that would indicate someone is complaining just to complain.

That's not true. No one complains about Terry because he does nothing but produce. If Chase had production like 10 sacks we'd all be talking about how great he is. But he doesn't and his numbers are pretty mediocre up to this point.

This is my concern as well. His sacks he might get to 6-7 which is fine but his other production numbers in the back field are terrible. Nick Bosa pretty much had double the production in most backfield production numbers. And some stats like QB hits, had 14 through his first 8 games. I was just hoping for one of those special rookie seasons. But here we are comparing him to other d ends who struggle their rookie years. Reminds me of the Haskins thread. Oh well.

Maybe you're right. I like Chase and fully expect him to be a leader on this team for a long time. Which I guess makes him worth the #2 pick. Having leaders is a great thing. I'm just saying his lack of production in the backfield is a cause for concern. He's definitely not going to come close to breaking any rookie records or having a special rookie season. Just was hoping for more. Unfortunately, I'm just seeing a really good athlete like Clowney. But much more likeable than him.

Alright, I honestly had no clue where you were going with the comment about the alternative reasons. If this is the case, that's fair. Maybe it's because he's triple teamed, the rest of the team sucks around him, the qb is throwing the ball too quickly, he's playing injured, whatever it is he's not producing in the backfield. 5 tackles for loss and hitting the qb 4 times and knocking him down once in half a season just throws up red flags for me and not the kind of production I expected from him.

Oh I get it. I'm just talking about him as a #2 pick in the draft and not some developmental player. I mean he's hit the qb 4 times all year. In comparison Bosa had 14 hits on the qb in his first 8 games last year. The lack of production in the backfield should be a concern to anyone. Because they aren't just disappointing numbers, they are really bad, especially the last 6 games.

I honestly don't know what the alternative can be that makes you sad? Are you saying there has to be some agenda other than just concern over the lack of production in the back field? I don't get it.

He had a good series there and that forced fumble hit at the goal line was definitely the game changing play you like to see. But through 8 games he hasn't even come close to producing behind the line of scrimmage that you'd like to see from a #2 can't pass up draft pick. Another game where he didn't really do anything in the backfield, although that tackle on the same series on the RB started in the back field which was I think his only contact back there. Just looks like a class below the Nick Bosa type of DEs when it comes to dominating the line of scrimmage and causing havoc in the backfield. Oh well, maybe he's a late bloomer and will turn it on after some experience.