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If we beat the Raiders in the Superbowl, would there be more players from that era in the HOF?

17 minutes ago, Destino said:

That sound you hear is the warriors championship window slamming shut.  

If they were playing your team would you feel safe up 3-1? 

Can we at least narrow down the focus from a legislative POV to the problem of an AR15 being an every day retail item

On 4/30/2023 at 11:54 AM, method man said:

That is an ugly QB class after Maye and Williams. Shedeur has faced ****ty competition thus far, Penix os a walking injury, Ewers is not very good and Nix would have been like QB10 had he come out

There are holes in Ewers’ game but to say he’s not very good is just incorrect 

2 hours ago, redskinss said:

I like the pick, reminds me of a poor man's deion sanders.

 

There are poor man's Deion Sanders in the HOF. I wouldn't call him that just yet. 

This was an idea that was legitimately being pushed at one point, and I still see variations of it from time to time. Kinda depraved when you think about it. 

4 hours ago, Renegade7 said:

 

Yea, anyone can correct me on this, but infantry doesn't sound like it has an easy transition into civilian workforce, or at least not as many options as others would.

 

What also comes to mind is Blackwater and the number of veterans who went to Iraq as "contractors"...what are they doing now that we've ended major operations there and Afghanistan?

 

We'd have to have a serious conversation about what an SRO is and does first, because hiring mercenaries to prevent school shootings is frankly as ugly as it sounds.

 

Folks that want more guns in schools need to be careful what they wish for, might just get it.

I don’t for a second think it’s realistic, but it’s a solution that has been pushed before and it’s when you break down what it actually entails it’s not just morbid but also infeasible. 

3 hours ago, Renegade7 said:

 

Interesting...

Yeah if you can find around 180,000 veterans with a clean background check and a squeaky clean psych eval willing to do the job it’d probably work while still being morbid. That number puts 2 armed guards in every elementary school, middle school and high school in the country, as there are around 90,000 schools in the country. It’s also a very conservative estimate as some high schools (especially in Texas where there are lax gun laws) are huge and would need more than two. It’s interesting, but is it feasible, and if there aren’t enough guards, who decides which schools get them and what factors do they go by? 

7 hours ago, Captain Wiggles said:

Just a reminder that the Parkland School Resource Officer hid during the shooting there. 🤷‍♂️

Not that he shouldn’t have done more, but it takes more physical and psychological training to handle these situations. Some SWAT teams actually receive combat training if I’m not mistaken, and that’s basically what it is.

Did Logan Paul dislocate a finger for real?

NVM

32 minutes ago, purbeast said:

Yeah I know, but that is always their response.

 

The problem with that assumption is that these mass shooters are criminals before they do their shootings.  The high majority of them are NOT criminals prior to that, in the sense they are involved in the gun black market.  And it's not like that is an easy market to just get into for these people with huge mental health issues.

It’s not an assumption so much as it is a piper’s tune. Purposely vague scary buzzword to make an empty contextless argument 

1 hour ago, purbeast said:

"But they would just obtain the guns illegally under the age of 25."

 

...said gun nutters with absolutely zero evidence of this ever happening.

It’s possible I suppose but it’s a zero sum prop for them as if any law or regulation is abided by 100%. Also the general profile of the kids that carry this stuff out isn’t exactly conducive to obtaining illegal arms. 

1 minute ago, Fergasun said:

There is an obvious solution but we lack the stones to shame and push for it.  Partially because people say, "It can't be done here".    Tell the pro gun people to eff off, assault weapon ban, semi auto ban and go full Australia, or at least Germany.  

 

Less that raise the age limit for gun ownership to 25. 

 

Grandfather current gun owners of course and crack down on all the black market stuff. 

 

Sure gun manufacturers will be mad... so what.  They are killing us. Build a 2nd Amendment monument and etch the names of gun violence victims to it.  

Quite a few school shootings would be prevented just by raising the legal age to 25. They’d refuse to take measures to help prevent school shootings specifically, let alone gun violence in general. 

I watched the bodycam footage from Nashville, and it brought me back to the armed guards and armed teacher solution, as it was a first hand look into the level of competence required to prevent further loss of life and take out an active shooter in a real life situation. When you actually think about what it would entail, it becomes even more ridiculous. 

According to Google, there are just under 140,000 schools (k-12) in the U.S. For argument's sake we'll remove the K's (even though before Sandy Hook we would have never imagined elementary school shootings would be a thing) which leaves us at about 90,000. That's a minimum of 90,000 individuals that must be trained, physically and psychologically, to be able to take out an active shooter, have a squeaky clean background check and a squeaky clean mental health record. Now, I went to high school in Los Angeles and one armed guard in a high school that size might as well be a puppy carrying a chew toy, and there are thousands of schools that size in the country, so now we're talking about a very conservative 200,000 individuals that fit the above characteristics and would be willing to take the job 

On to the millions of teachers employed in the U.S. Gun safety training and practice are a complete waste of time in the context of gaining the competence of trained law enforcement personnel tasked with taking out an active shooter, so the idea is to do what, put them all through SWAT training? 

Better than nothing right? 

6 hours ago, Larry said:

 

We are the only one with the NRA's modern interpretation of the Second Amendment. 
 

If you don't want to compare the US against France, then how about comparing the US against the US, 50-75 years ago?  When people could own a gun. But they owned one. And it stayed at home. When carrying a concealed weapon was a major crime, unless you had been granted a license, and there were maybe a dozen people in town who were allowed. When standing in a public place with a gun got you arrested. 
 

When a city had the authority to just ban carrying a gun in the city, period. They didn't always do so. But they could. 
 

 

How did The Criminals not take over the country?! Terrifying stuff 

6 minutes ago, bh32 said:

It's been proved already that these psychopaths are getting guns and using them on people even with all these red flag laws that are there to stop them from purchasing guns.So all the solutions that i hear from everyone is to ban and or confiscate guns..Well who is gonna go around and take everyones gun?

Not everyone, just the psychopaths. Lots of times they exhibit signs on message boards, such as but not limited to irrational fear and general paranoia 

15 minutes ago, skinsmarydu said:

You responded to a quote sent to me and said response made no sense whatsoever. 

Would you care to clarify? 

Yeah but then it wouldn't be funny. Not intended towards you. 

15 minutes ago, bh32 said:

Don't get smart stay as you are..So who is gonna take these guns from people?

 

Nobody, unless you're a psychopath. I'm on the fence regarding you should be worried or not. 

What needs to happen for him to be disqualified from running for president again? 

21 minutes ago, Bang said:

Sorry kid, these people have a hobby.
i know you don't care today, you've got a lot on your mind. 
But suck it up you little ****. Your tears aren't going to matter, your pain means nothing, and I wish you'd just shut the **** up and stop screaming because I'd like to polish my ****ing toy in peace. Besides, none of that noise is going to bring your pals back, is it? So shut it. Nobody cares.

Thanks kid, now go **** off.
Oh and hey, look. There is a car. That can hurt you too. But i don't see you crying about that, now do I?

~Gun

You forgot to add “at least it’s safer here than Mexico” 

12 minutes ago, Captain Wiggles said:

 

A lot if them aren't actually the law abiding citizens they claim to be. They know they won't pass a background check or a psychiatric assessment. 🤷‍♂️

What does that say about the ones that object on ideological grounds 

Purely out of curiosity, if you’re so incensed that this country is much safer than it’s being painted out to be, what’s the risk of placing more restrictions on guns? What tangible threat are you scared of? If it’s just your hobby and you’re a law abiding citizen, why are you worried that more restrictions will result in your guns being taken away? 

27 minutes ago, Hersh said:

So this entire thread is just you trolling. That’s all I can determine after reading this. 

Worse. It’s diversion from the actual issue as a result of selfishness and reprehensible indifference. 

7 minutes ago, China said:

 

Again, why do they have to be linked?  Why do you have to take away from the gun control effort?  Do both.

Because he doesn’t care 

13 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

 

I meant claiming to know how foreigners view us?  Experience? Read articles?  Etc.

Yep. Most of my family is in Israel and I’m still in touch with some friends from middle school and high school. Even with all the insanity going on in a country overflowing with problems, they can’t wrap their head around a society that continues to dance around a problem that allows children to be blown to bits in a classroom. 

6 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

Can those making claims about how our country is viewed provide a quick rundown of their experience to make these statements?  Please and thank you.

Yes. Human beings are generally horrified at kids under 10 years being slaughtered in a classroom, and the natural reaction to a society that takes an elementary school shooting in stride will be a smidge on the negative side. 

46 minutes ago, TD_washingtonredskins said:

 

No, you're right...we absolutely have a gun violence problem. We do. But, I think it gets overblown sometimes, despite it being inexcusable, preventable, and tragic. 

 

Look at the sheer volume of people in our country who die from things like drug-related deaths or eating themselves to death. Those numbers dwarf gun-related deaths. I'm not saying we can't fix both. I also know that somebody can't walk into a school and force-feed your child a Big Mac or opioid to force them to die, like with a mass shooting. 

 

I'm just saying that the perception of America as a scary country is overblown. The randomness of these acts is alarming, but it's important not to classify every inch of our nation like a dangerous war zone. 

How is your reaction to a third elementary school shooting: “things aren’t as bad as they look”? We deserve every bit of criticism that we get.