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1 hour ago, DC9 said:

 

Well they never replaced Ronaldo was the point, though. 

 

Well we do, and I'm not sure Phil was ever his type of player and Mel and Pearce have said as much over the last couple of years.  But he'll take some replacing, especially in the immediate future.

 

I'm confident this is a team that can **** out a goal or two when it's needed, we've seen that with Burnley and Everton recently.  But if you strengthen the defense and keeper (which I think VVD is the type of dude that makes players better) then you can feel more comfortable at 2-0.  It's really been since Rafa that we could say that.

The measured approach is always better although there's measured and there's being a tight old Scot and I still think Klopp will look to spend the money on a high level player. 

8 hours ago, DC9 said:

Really interesting listen today on Counter Attack - which is a Sirius XM show with a Brit and an Italian/American ex-Patriot I believe.  Anywho, they discussed the failure of moves when clubs sell a big player and try to replace like for like.

 

Ronaldo, Bale, Suarez - almost all the money was wasted.

 

Decent enough to say.  I do think Lemar is a different story, but I wouldn't be upset at all if we went to buy a top class keeper like Alisson.  I think Oblak is a pipe dream.  It could happen.

They're wrong about Ronaldo. In true Fergie he fashion he bought Antonio Valencia from Wigan and then sat on his hands. Won a couple of titles and was a monumental collapse against Bayern away from reaching the CL semis after selling Ronaldo. 

9 minutes ago, DC9 said:

 

None of this answer the question of why it couldn't wait 6 months.

My best guess is he was becoming a malcontent and Liverpool's attacking play didn't exactly suffer without him. This is a similar situation to the Ronaldo transfer to Madrid, and at that time United had just come off winning the CL but were still powerless at the end of the day. Also I don't see how the Spanish league is better at the moment aside from Real and Barca. Easier on the eye and easier on the players, but not better. 

32 minutes ago, FanboyOf91 said:

 

Just saying...

EDIT:

Just realized it was Pulisic. Great choice if you want someone that plays the same position. Thought it was Gotze on account of I haven't seen his face since the 2014 WC Final 

2 minutes ago, DC9 said:

Sczezny is having a GAME against Cagliari at the moment, by the way.

 

That's the thing - we bought Salah to help Phil... you have that kind of speed on the outside you can't man mark Phil unless you want to get cooked.  It's worked.

 

Interested to see how he'll do in Spain.  I'm sure he'll do fine, but I really think he'll rue this.

 

Mane and Salah did nothing but make space for him.

From what I've seen from Liverpool without Coutinho Salah was also the main reason they did so well without Coutinho. Firmino is a very good playmaker as a false 9, especially when he has that much pace around him. Not sure Liverpool even need to spend that money on an all out attacker tbh. I'd get a Pogba or De Bruyne type that can be that advanced playmaker as a midfielder rather than a free role inside forward, especially with the prospect of pairing someone like that with Keita. Goretzka would have been perfect if Schalke weren't playing bend over and come get it with Bayern. 

Should have sold Coutinho in the summer IMO. Easy for me to say as I'm just a spectator but I've always been in favor of the you don't want to be here then **** off policy when it comes to clubs with financial means and stature to recruit suitable replacements. Hindsight is 20/20 though it would have been hard to predict that Salah was going to be THIS good. 

Lingard could be a pretty good complementary piece if he figures out how to pay attention for more than 20 minutes a game, with the odd screamer being an added bonus. Rashford can go to Bournemouth for a team holiday on the south coast. I wouldn't ask for travel to be included on account of it may get them off the negotiation table. 

Hopefully the three man midfield sticks around for a while.

My point was not that they don't take talent from their own league all-together. You're addressing a point that I never made so maybe I'm redundant in this debate. 

5 minutes ago, RichmondRedskin88 said:

 

Last I checked Sanchez is basically set to go to Man City and Man Utd lost Welbeck to Arsenal. I’m sure I could go on.  If German clubs don’t resign their players why is Bayern required to let them walk to someone else? Sounds more like bitterness that Bayern steps in.  If a player wants to go there or a club doesn’t pay up Bayern has just as much right to go for them.  Would England clubs just sit there if Chelsea let Hazard walk? Or if Utd let Pogba walk away? If you are suggesting Bayern has no right to go after talent in Germany but England teams can poach other clubs for talent and youth that’s beyond hypocritical.

 

I made be wrong but didn’t one of City’s most famous strikers (Aguero) get his first break at Utd? 

Sanchez is (as I stated) in his late 20s and may even be 30 by the time he gets there. Welbeck was surplus and not wanted. English clubs would and do sit there in situations like that because the selling club will other suck the blood of the buying team if it's another PL team, or wouldn't sell at all. For example, Modric did everything but beg to go to Chelsea, and ended up at Real. Hazard will never play for another Premier League club, you can book that. Bayern is not required to do anything, but they're in a position in their league that no team in England or Spain for that matter (Atletico sells to Barca, but there will probably never be another big transfer between Real and Barca, and Atletico won't sell a player to Real) gets to be in. I enjoy watching the Bundesliga, but in terms of emotional investment I could give a rat's behind about any Bundesliga club, so I have no reason to be bitter. 

22 minutes ago, RichmondRedskin88 said:

 

You are very uninformed if you still think that. Many clubs in the bundasliga poach more then they do. Dortmund took like 6+ players in one transfer window few years ago from other clubs in the league. Bayern has only taken Lewy (Out of contract after Dortmund lowballed), Hummels (He requested it and we sent Gotze back.), Sule (Was going to leave the club anyway), and Rudy (Need due to Thiago’s injury history and aging Vidal.). Logic says they will target good German players as its benefits the club culture and the national team.  Also like the big clubs in England don’t steal players from the lower clubs. Difference is they try to ravage Spain and Germany now because of the ridiculous transfer fees in England where 75 mil is fine for a somewhat ok defender.  We all know Klopp was covering his words over transfer fees cuz he knows his club is contributing to the outrageous fees. So spare us the transfer lecture. Last I checked we weren’t the ones ruining the transfer market with stupid amounts of money thrown around for even mediocre players.

Nice of you to make my point for me, and I'll preface this by saying that I'm talking about regular starters to stars in the point I'm about to make. Manchester United will never be able to buy a player from Liverpool or City. Liverpool or Manchester City will never be able to buy a player from Manchester United. Chelsea had to go through a drawn out saga and pay WAY above market for Ashley Cole, same for City buying Sterling. Arsenal will sell the occasional top player to City or United, but it's few and far between and in every case the player is in his late 20s. Daniel Levy would probably poison one of his players before agreeing to sell him to anyone in the Premier League now a day. Bayern Munich will succeed about 90% of the time when they want a player from Bundesliga, no matter how good, how old, and who the team losing the player is. 

6 minutes ago, RichmondRedskin88 said:

I still think there’s a good chance Goretzka ends up at Bayern.  Vidal is gonna be sold somewhere soon.  I can’t see him going to Liverpool over Juventus, Bayern or Barca.  He very well could but if he’s really focused on UCL those three clubs have made much better showings in recent time. Coutinho potentially heading to Barca could really kill Pool’s momentum too.

The Bundesliga is their feeder club of course there's a good chance he ends up there. 

On 12/29/2017 at 5:42 AM, AsburySkinsFan said:

QUESTION: this is specifically directed toward the British posters here since it has to do with the BPL.

 

I’ve recently become aware of the BPL “homegrown rules”, and how some are wanting to restrict those requirements even further in order to focus on domestic development. This comes at a time when our own league MLS, is looking to expand its recruitment pool further into Africa and the Americas. 

 

So my questions are, havebthese rules worked? What is the feeling on the street regarding the homegrown rules? Do you favor tightening the rules? If so why? If not why not?

I think it's a silly rule and it can stunt the development of players that end up rotting on the bench of some of the bigger clubs, bar Tottenham and Liverpool. Shame too because theres a good generation of players coming up as they showed in at the u20 world cup. Someone like Phil Fodden right now could probably get significant playing time at half the clubs in the premier league but it's hard to see that ever happening at City. Another one of their talented youth players, Jadon Sancho, wised up and went abroad. 

Just now, Destino said:

The end of this Celtics Rockets game is amazing.

If James Harden got traded to Golden State tomorrow for a draft pick he'd find a way to prevent them from winning a ring. What an absolute clown. 

Adopted two rescues with my ex, one in 2013 and one in 2014. We were on and off for a few years but when we all lived together I did about 97% of the taking care (still got lectured about doing it wrong from time to time) so I really bonded with these guys, especially the girl. We both suffered from panic attacks. I'd hold her while she had hers and this hyperactive little dog would sit in my lap and not move while I had mine. My ex is married now and apparently I make her wife very insecure so last summer was probably the last time I'll ever see them. I've been told they're dogs so it's not like I don't get to see my kids but it still really hurts from time to time. Miss those little buggers a whole lot.