CommDownMan

4 minutes ago, KDawg said:

I didn’t even have Carter on my draft board, tbh. Character matters. Yes, I missed on Parsons because I removed him for character concerns. But I wouldn’t take Carter.

 

Looking at him look allegedly high as **** there reinforces that. If he can survive the NFL the Eagles DTs are the best in the League. Or at least among them. But I don’t know if he will.

I agree with the character stuff, but I thought he was crying and that was reason for the eyes.   

On 4/25/2023 at 10:32 AM, ntotoro said:

Dan doesn't get it... there could be nuclear warheads heading to the US and the story of him finally being purged will resurrect more quickly than Lazarus!!!

We'll throw a bunker parade if we must!  On zoom!  Walkie-talkies!  Tin-cans on a string!

Whatever/However/Whenever you go Dan, we're going to celebrate!  

4 hours ago, spjunkies said:

 

Good deal, you lads should be happy I want the Canadian. Now there is zero chance he'll get it, just the way things work with me, is all.

We're all Commanders fans and many orioles fans.    You think you're the only one with the bad juju?  Haha

Today is my 42nd birthday.   I am 7+ years sober and my Eagles fan wife bought me this just because she knows how excited I am for this (she knows I'll display or give away,  not changing my new ways).

I know it's not official yet,  but damn it I'm getting excited anyway.  

On 4/19/2023 at 2:19 PM, Koolblue13 said:

It's not disingenuous. You have to be able to tell the difference and how these two contracts will affect their teams differently over the next few years.

 

Eagles- Great deal

Giants- Bad deal.

So one more note.   

I agree the jones contract is bad, but some of this is just situation.

Jones was a first round pick and didn't get the 5th option picked up.   As soon as he played well enough to stay, his year one was looking at a franchise tag level year one. 

Hurts was a 2nd round pick and this year was going to be super cheap no matter what.   He played well before they had to decide on tag and by rewarding him early the leverage was slightly better for them.

Fully agree that the Eagles did better,  but other than enjoying the giants getting **** on, I don't think its really a apples to apples comparison. 

21 hours ago, srtman04 said:

 

How is this even legal?   Why is the $255 million extension not counted in these numbers???

So the Guaranteed is like 180mill and it was a 5 year extension,  so 6 years overall.   The average guaranteed then is 30 mill per.   Add in a few void years and these numbers looking good the first 4 years make sense.   

If year 5 he's still playing well,  they convert some of the non guaranteed 70 million into bonus again it will be worse then this first 4 year numbers, but probably not terrible. 

11 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

I’m pretty sure the max for void years is 2.

 

You also have to be careful with voidable years.  If you cut/trade the player, the whole thing accelerates to the current year. 
 

Eventually, your cap is going to see all of the guaranteed money.  

I thought we saw some teams do deals with 3 years, but I can't remember now. 

Edit:

2 links.   Obj had 4 years void.   Reasons in link below. 

Based on this hurts does not have void years, however by triggering bonuses over several years, maybe that counts as new money and voidable years can be added.   Don't have time to search this one right now. Since the quote below says years left,  a bonus in year 3 likely means that can have voided years added. 

  https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/12/inside-the-obj-deal/

Since a bonus can be prorated over a maximum of five seasons, the highest number of void years that can be added to a contract is five minus the number of years left on the contract the player is currently on. 

https://sumersports.com/the-zone/void-years-explained/#:~:text=Since a bonus can be,the player is currently on.

3 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

I know my way around Amazon terms like the back of my hand

I feel like you should have worked in an A to Z reference here.

4 hours ago, Koolblue13 said:

 

You are going to have to draw that outrage with crayon for me to understand it, because they just signed a top NFL QB off a trip to the SB and it doesn't hurt their cap space at all.

 

At All! 

Since extension, this covers 6 years of contract and the original year 1 would have been 4 mill.  To still get these numbers I feel like there needs to be void years as well.  They have definitely done a good job giving themselves a window here that they have (likely) strong QB play and not burying the team.  

There is enough guaranteed, that there will be at least a few years with big numbers OR maybe a few moderately big years where he isn't slated to be on the team without a restructure/extension.  Although at that point, they would have already had Hurts for 8-10 years and may be the best time to go back to the rookie QB deal to compensate.

1 hour ago, CjSuAvE22 said:

What was everyone’s low point of the dan snyder era…I’m curious how we line up I’ll go first it was that giants game at home Mr. maroon and black wanted to run a fake field goal with zero protection I believe we were getting smacked and it was right before the half , it just summed up how foolish of hire this was

57 minutes ago, srtman04 said:

 

Dan Snyder back in 1999:  "The #1 Priority is Winning, and that's what we are gonna do!"   -  2022:  LOLOLOLOLOLOL  🤣

 

This might be funny if I didn't live through it.  Ugg

43 minutes ago, Chris 44 said:

I knew if something good happened none of you would be able to keep it to yourself! At least I found some access!

We should have sent you away sooner!

1 hour ago, Warhead36 said:

Ding

 

Dong

 

The witch is dead

This my my first thought and they should be our parade shirt theme...

2 hours ago, spjunkies said:

"Commanders" was 100% a Dan/Rivera selection. Honestly, Dan probably had it in mind as a top option ten years ago lmao.

I agree with part 1.  Dan having a semblance of a plan in place, let alone 10 years, not so much.  The WFT placeholder was a combination of pressure and no plan.  

2 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

Can I make a request?  Could we table the name speculation/discussion until after a new owner is announced? Or create a separate renaming thread? It all wild guesswork and we’ve been over it for 4 years.  It’s exhausting.  And irrelevant, at least for now.

You say that like most of this thread isn't exhausting and irrelevant.  

1 hour ago, SoCalSkins said:

He did not say trying. His inclusion is pretty much a foregone conclusion. The question is how much control will he have over football decisions? 
 

Yes there is every reason to believe RG3 because he put his name on it. There is no speculation. It was as matter of fact interview as Magic’s stating they have a bid. 
 

Doesn’t really matter because they won’t win but still. 

Just like he put his name on a book?

Just like he talked about coming back to play qb?

Yup,  it's a sealed deal because rg3 went on the radio to talk about himself.  There is no reason to believe him.    You just choose to, so you can push your version of the truth. 

23 minutes ago, dunfer said:

What ever happened to that book RG the third was writing about his biggest fan, Dan? 

It was such a masterpiece of the politics of Washington, it can only be talked about in the Tailgate.  

1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Forgot who said it, but one of the ones covering the sale does not think RG3 ends up a minority partner.  

I feel like RGIII said he was in talks and that interview said he was trying basically no one else confirmed any level of mutual interest).  It is indeed a large difference from reportedly being included.  No reason to believe RGIII.  

9 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

they are up this year.  they might not qualify for 2024 -- if I recall a playoff appearance rules you out, ditto a new coaching staff.  I think there is a good chance they are either in the playoffs or if not we get a new coach.  So the odds are slim they qualify for 2024.

 

Actually on 2nd thought, that's the teams can't be forced to be on the show.  I guess they can always solicit the show.

That's fair, as mentioned I'm not a hard knocks guy either way.  I feel like if the goal is rejuvenation, changes need to be there first.  Maybe Dan gone is enough to change the vibe, but we can't even get that locked down just yet either.

2 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

He alluded to basically saying with Dan around this team wasn't going to get nice things everything being equal.  You have to pay a Snyder tax to lure players here and some players didn't want to come at all.  He said they were unlikley going to host the draft with Snyder around but with him gone that might open up.

 

Connecting the dots between Keim and Standig it feels like the powers that be want to show hey the wicked witch is dead -- this isn't a bad destination anymore and want to showcase that to the league. 

I'm not a Hard Knocks guy, but the draft being local would be nice things.

I'm assuming Hard Knocks for 2024?  Several fixes won't be a light switch and I think it would be good to show the changes vs confirm the horrors.  Haha

1 hour ago, Chris 44 said:

I knew this guy named Tommy whos dad owned a brake shoe company, when his dad passed away Tommy took over despite not knowing anything about the business, yet that turned out pretty good in the end.

http://www.callahanbearing.com/assets/img/cvv1.png

My in-laws live near this place and every time I drive passed the sign I think they should add a fake sign for brake pads coming soon.

9 hours ago, profusion said:

 

Does salt go well with hot air?

If you use corn kernels the right way, yes indeed.

🍿

1 minute ago, spjunkies said:

 

The Junks need to shut it with that garbage they pulled this week. 

 

I have to admit this begging has tanked my confidence that Bezos wants the team

Perhaps, although Bezos might very well have been waiting for the beg to get the ultimate FU.  I think it's still an option and Bezos wasn't going to let Dan take the upper hand.  Still TBD, but this just makes Dan look like a loser either way.  

1 minute ago, Riggo#44 said:

The Junkies just made me laugh with this one. They've dubbed this jackass "GRASParino."

 

Would it surprise any one if it turned out this guy was a total scumbag?

I think most media negotiations have someone pumping the sale and some news that helps the buyers.  This guy just sided with the dumb seller.  It may have been a bad side to pick, but ultimately I think he simply helped out the dumb seller that can't negotiate his way out of a plastic bag.

4 minutes ago, HIYA_Beach_Warpath said:

Tiny DAN'cer is having a tantrum because Jeffy is not coming to his bidding party. 

The Commanders are there for the taking if Bezos truly wants the team.  One way or another we'll find out if he truly does want them.

12 hours ago, SoCalSkins said:

When Bezos buys the team I will be vindicated if he doesn’t I will have been completely wrong. It’s pretty binary.  We will know soon.

 

I am also going against the conventional wisdom of most experts who cover the team. So seemingly the odds are against me. 
 

Getting to the right answer using wrong assumptions makes you lucky not smart.  Being 'vindicated' when people agree it's one possible outcomes, but isn't set in stone to others is just a silly statement.  I don't think the odds are for or against you.  We don't know what Bezos is thinking, despite what you assume.  But I still think it's a very possible outcome.

You've picked 1 side of a coin flip and decided you know which way it'll flip.  I've yet to see anyone say it can't/won't fall that way.  All you've really set up is a way to continue to be insufferable saying you're 'vindicated' or quietly disappear for a bit after the dust settles.