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OMG, NO IT ISNT! Mayo can defend, he can rebound, he can shoot, and he can create for himself and others. The defending stuff is subjective, but Mayo is a decent creator for others. Im not sure Beal can dribble a basketball on an NBA level. And Mayo is a better athlete than Beal. This Beal thing, I really dont understand it. Good grief, Mayo is shooting 60 percent from 3 point land this year. Mayo fell out in Memphis because they have Rudy Gay, and Hollins likes Gay more than Mayo.

i was there first of all, the hot chocolate was cold. Secondly, they couldnt create a single good chance that first half. Was pretty dejecting. They stepped up the tempo in the 2nd half, but it was too late. Nice goal by Boskovic tho. Great season, lets hope they can kick on next year.

Bazz as a long wingspan too. I think its over 7 feet, so he could play the 3. The reason why I say trade Beal, if it happens, is because we need picks and players. I think we could get a lot for Beal, but I get the argument of keeping him too. I really wish we could get Wiggins tho. That boy is going to be the best player in the world barring an injury. No doubt in my mind about it.

Shabazz is a 2 guard, and yes I would take him over Beal right now. If we get a high enough pick, we could trade Beal and get some draft picks and players out of it... hmm. But if we could some how suck enough to get Wiggins in 2014...

Ive already penciled in 0-10, their next best chance to win will be when Charlotte comes to town next Saturday. If they dont win that game... man idk maybe Golden State on the 8th? That would be 0-17

Adebayor, always a gooner ---------- Post added November-17th-2012 at 10:25 AM ---------- I cant wait for Alan Davies' rant on Spurs this week ---------- Post added November-17th-2012 at 10:27 AM ---------- I cant wait for Alan Davies' rant on Spurs this week

I dont disagree That slow down in speed may help him run the half court offense better too, I hope.

Wall is not good around the basket. If he can improve that, if he could finish around the rim as much as he should, his scoring will obviously increase.

I saw Lincoln last week. Its very cheesy, but the acting is pretty top notch. ---------- Post added November-16th-2012 at 02:08 PM ---------- Also saw Life of Pi a few days ago. Amazing movie. Visually incredible. Just amazing, I really cant say that enough. I think thats going to be the Academy Award favorite. ---------- Post added November-16th-2012 at 02:11 PM ---------- Also saw Life of Pi a few days ago. Amazing movie. Visually incredible. Just amazing, I really cant say that enough. I think thats going to be the Academy Award favorite.

Well i feel its one reason why, the lack of great low post players. In the 90s, you had a lot of teams who felt their best offense and defense was to run the clock down (Mike Fratello) mixed with a drop in talent and 6 teams entering the league in an 8 year stretch. I think the NBA only started to recover from that in the mid noughties. It was a bad stretch of basketball. A lot of isolation, not much scoring, and games got too physical. You did have great big men, but it was hard to overcome some of the crap that was happening around the league. I feel great big men are what is missing from today's game to make it great again as the league is not in as much dire straits. If the Wizards had Georghe Muresan at 24 years old today, they would be a legit playoff team and he would be the best center in the east.

I love NBA history, so I look at old games when I can. I also grew up watching the 90s NBA. I think that may have been a real nadir for basketball, but it gets romanticized a lot. It was the first time coaches actually taught team defending, and there were a lot of limited players who looked like all stars because of the dearth of talent in the NBA back then. There were drafts of busts from like 86-91, and the game slowed down dramatically because the game got over coached. I loved it because it was all I knew, but then I started seeing games from the 60s, 70s, and 80s and it opened my eyes up. The 90s were a terrible period for quality of play in the NBA, so that is why I keep saying its better today than it was back then, but I can totally understand if someone who grew up on 70s and 80s ball say it sucks today. I get it.

the lack of knowledge of the game is not being in learned in college. Javale McGee went to college for 2 years, and is still one of the stupidest players to ever play in the NBA. Conversely, Tyson Chandler didnt play a lick of college ball and is one of the smartest players in the NBA. You could make an argument for both. The stuff about structure and coaching isnt learned in college ball. I cannot say this enough. That stuff comes before college. Thats where things are broken, not in college. That doesnt mean that there should be no college ball and that some players dont improve, but a lot of players really dont need it. Kyrie Irving clearly didnt need one year of college, and neither did John Wall. So many player already have that ability by the time they hit college. THe best thing you can say is that college refines their skill, but it doesnt add much. College ball is about winning, just like the pro game. And they also have the academic distraction which takes away time from working on their craft. and I also doubt there are enough good coaches in college to develop players properly before hitting the NBA, especially in today's college ball. Look at a program like Syracuse under Boheim. None of those guys can defend when they come into the NBA, and outside of Melo and Derrick Coleman, they have some great busts. Boeheim coaches players to his system and his style, which leads to a lot of incomplete players. Boeheim's players usually stay 2-3 years too. Boeheim is who many people would consider a great coach, and I agree. But his NBA player track record is sketchy as hell. I cant say this enough, but you dont learn fundamental concepts of the game in college. That is stuff that you learn before and during college. I do agree about the confidence portion to an extent, especially with big men. The problem with big men in college is that the game is so perimeter oriented that they cant learn that much more there. So by Kyrie taking charges at Duke, that would improve his defense? Outside of Battier, name a Duke player that became a good-great defender in the NBA? And even with Battier, I would argue the film work and statistical analysis he does is what helped him more than what Coach K ever taught him. here is the one thing I will give college coaches some credit for, especially a guy like Calipari. He makes his players unselfish and selfless. Anthony Davis was the best college player last year and he barely took 10 shots a game. UK didnt even run plays for him, and he was told to stay in the post. He gets in the NBA, and you see he has a really good 18 footer, very good handles, and actually has some nice post moves. In college, he was told to sacrifice that for the good of the team, and he did. That is something that could def be learned in college, and I feel that was all Cal. And there is a reason why Calipari keeps getting point guards into the NBA draft's first round each year. He and Rod Strickland da gawd, know what they are doing. Bird was always that player tho. And tbh, did Bird learn from being a garbage man for the year he was away from college? I would say Jordan learned selflessness at UNC, but then he came into the NBA and was seen as a selfish player for the early part of his career. And that era, the Jordan/Bird/Magic era, guys learned a lot of basic stuff in HS from coaches and beforehand. Its completely different today. Thats why I keep saying there is a problem with American coaching. thats how its always been tho. That doesnt matter if its straight from middle school, or you stayed in school for 5 years, that is how its always been. I watched Tim Duncan in college. Tim Duncan was the same player he was from his sophomore year to today, minus the loss of athleticism. The player that Kevin Garnett became, is how he was as a rookie. DRose learned to shoot his junior or senior year in college (2nd, 3rd year in the NBA). Great, so he got paid and learned how to shoot. My real point is that I dont believe that fundamental understanding is something a player picks up in college. It comes from learning the game, to HS. If they are in college and dont understand concepts and plays, then its going to be hard for them to learn it in college where its every bit as much of a winning culture as is the NBA. The problems with the American player has more to do with what happens between 12-18, than it does between 18-22. ---------- Post added November-16th-2012 at 11:44 AM ---------- Well I didnt say great two guard, I said great scorer. He is not a great scorer. And I think the quality of play has improved dramatically from the 90s and early 2000s. A lot more ball movement now than before. But I do think that the game will never be what it once was until we get some great post players. The game is lacking that, and thats why it wont be what it was. what does that have to do with how good the players are? And DeShawn Stevenson may be annoying, but he was a vital player to the Mavericks winning an NBA title. Maybe the problem is the Wizards organization, not these players. well tbf, its a movie. I dont know how many coaches were actually doing that back then either. But then again John Wooden used to teach players how to put on their socks and tie their shoes properly before each season. I refuse to just blame kids for these things though. Its the easy way out, many of these coaches just flat out suck, the system in this country is broken with regards to basketball development. Tim Duncan was one of the greatest athletes to ever play the PF position. Karl Malone is another guy, despite being one of the most limited offensive players ever, he finished 2nd on the scoring list. Its not all just on the players, and sometimes we romanticize the past too much. For instance, the stuff with how players dribble the ball today started in the Magic/Bird/Jordan age. Those guys palmed the ball when they dribbled, but the refs let it slide. If you look at how West, Robertson, Frazier and other guys from the 60s and 70s handled the ball, its completely different for a reason. Personally, I believe Magic Johnson is the biggest reason why we dont have great American big men anymore. ---------- Post added November-16th-2012 at 11:48 AM ---------- and the Prison Industrial Complex based on nonviolent offenders being thrown into prison, particularly crack/cocaine disparity in the law and mandatory/minimum sentences.

again, here is the Aldridge article on that http://www.nba.com/2012/news/features/david_aldridge/04/09/morning-tip-nba-draft-age-limit-debate/index.html its not the one and dones. ---------- Post added November-15th-2012 at 11:34 PM ---------- also, Wall is eligible for RFA in 2014. He can sign an extension next summer (which I expect) or he could say nah imma goto FA and the Wizards can match a contract offer for him in 2014.

an great scorer, thats what they thought they were getting. Instead, dude is an efficient chucker. And the quality of basketball is actually quite good, better than its been since the 80s, so I will say yes thanks. College basketball isnt, and hasnt been, a place to develop players since the 80s, and I am starting to believe it never has been about that because all that happened in the old days is that guys didnt leave when they should have.. If the Toronto Raptors want to bid against themselves and give Demar Derozan a ridiculously big contract for little production, thats on them. Not on the players. Same is true for Ernie giving Blatche that ridiculous contract based off 2 months of inefficient play. Fans love blaming players for general managers giving bad contracts. so you believe Kyrie was going to learn how to play defense against sorry players at Duke? By learning how to take charges and flop? Hell to nah, no chance. He didnt need to play a game in college to be the player he is right now and becoming. If anything, he risked his career by playing that season at Duke because he also got that foot which people feared could have ended his career. Allen Iverson won DPOY at Georgetown in the Big East. Iverson was never a good NBA defender. Steve Francis also won the award at UMD in the ACC. Francis was never a good defender. Nolan Smith is a garbage NBA defender despite spending 4 years at Duke (he not a good NBAplayer period). Its something that ESPN and NCAA coaches have propagated forever and its bunk. here is the Aldridge article on one and done, etc. Its not the problem. http://www.nba.com/2012/news/features/david_aldridge/04/09/morning-tip-nba-draft-age-limit-debate/index.html Now there is a real problem in this country in basketball talent development and coaching. Its why the rest of the world really are catching up to his in bball. The problem is at a period well before the NBA. The college game is about winning, most of those coaches dont care about player development at all. It starts back before HS with youth coaches, and then it goes on with these AAU and travelling teams. IF you want to know why John Wall plays the same way he has since he was a freshman at UK, its because he has played that way all of his life and gotten away with it. Same with Russy, Rose, and the other combo guards out there in the NBA, its how they always played. Same is true with guys like Kobe, Durant, and Bron. Same is true for a guy like Blake Griffin, and many others as well. The link is broken well before college and thats why we are stuck with big men who dont have post games, guards who cant shoot and dribble with their heads down, or guards who cant dribble the ball at all. Thats the real problem. Until the coaching and development between 12-18 is fixed, players can stay 1 one year or 4 years in college, they gonna be what they are technically.

The one and done rule has not done a damn thing with NBA development. Talent is talent. Some players are talented, some are not. David Aldridge had a great article over the summer where he actually analyzed HS, One and Done, 2 and done, 3 years, and 4 year players since KG entered the NBA in '95. The better NBA players actually come from the HS and one and done types. The real problem with the Wizards, and a lot of teams, is that there are not that many great-franchise changing players in each draft. If you do not have a pick in the top 4, then you are messed up most years. ---------- Post added November-15th-2012 at 10:10 PM ---------- another 2 years of college would not make Kyrie Irving or Kevin Durant a better player, just like another year would not make Tyreke Evans or Demar Derozean better players. Nick Young went to USC for 3 years, look at him.

yeah, I said this many times to Wizard fans for many years. "Nah yung, Jamison good. He get dem point jo." yeah, ok

i didnt know there was a way to spell cyse/cyce/sice/syce tbf

James McAdoo is a tweener, stop cysing him.

the Kings are also one of the 3 worst teams in the NBA each year, and will be as long as the Maloofs own them.

I always feel a lot of that was due to him and Gay being similar players. Then Mayo and Hollins fell out. I should have stayed away, Dallas about to pull away again.

I turned away, and these dudes made it a game. Wow, im impressed.

if we dont beat Charlotte next week, this team is going to start 0-15, with its best chance to win coming against Golden State

I hate to say I told you so, but I wanted this clown Wittman gone this summer when we had the chance and a few posters just dismissed it. And AJ Price just did his ankle.

Ibra's 3rd and 4th goals in this match ---------- Post added November-14th-2012 at 05:08 PM ----------