Spaceman Spiff

13 hours ago, zskins said:

 

Try this: MIL you protected your kid(s) after they were born. I am going to be a father and I am going to protect my kid with same intensity. Just like you didn't want anyone to hurt your kid(s) I want to do the same thing. I don't want someone exposing my son with covid who doesn't believe in vaccination and god forbid take him away from me. I would die myself and never forgive myself. It will turn my world upside down. I can't do that. I truly am really sorry. You are more than welcome to see him via Zoom after he is born. 

 

See what she says to that. 

I dig this.  Lol I'm gonna practice this before I go over there Tuesday night.

12 hours ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said:

 

Congrats on the baby!

 

Sometimes you gotta take the hard approach, it's y'alls child, not hers.  She doesn't like it, prove she got vaxxed or get vaxxed and prove it.   Me and my wife aren't the type to sugar coat stuff, I'd just lay out the ultimatium and deal with whatever comes.  When it comes to the safety of your child, that should take precedence over hurting someone's feelings, regardless if it's a friend, MIL, parent, etc.

 

It will also take away a lot of the worry you will have everytime she comes around y'all and the baby and not knowing 100% if she was vaxxed or not.  If I were in your shoes, I'd tell her to show her vaccine card to see the baby, or otherwise, she's seeing the baby via facetime. 

 

Hell, my wife, daughter and I are all vaxxed, wife has had her booster, my MIL, SIL, BIL all vaxxed with my SIL and BIL boostered up and we cancelled Thanksgiving with them because my SIL is back in college and my BIL teaches college and personally I wasn't taking the risk of my BIL/SIL getting breakthrough cases and spreading that **** to us while visiting.  

 

Good luck broski.

 

 

And this, too.  I'm going to lay out that I'm not trying to hurt her feelings but the baby is the most important thing.  If she doesn't understand that, well...that's not my problem.

Shot clock violations are unacceptable.  

Just tuning in.  Looks disappointing so far.

44 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said:

FWIW we were strict no contact with my father in law because he was anti mask/anti vax for months. We finally  wore him down and he got vaccinated. Well, partly vaccinated anyway. But better than nothing. We still require him to take an instant test before being admitted to our house because of how he is. He knows he’s the only one in our lives that is under that requirement. It’s awkward. 

Yeah, I'm afraid it's going to come down to that.  

19 hours ago, TK said:

I binge watched it last week. Just wait for Theo Rossi (Juice from Sons of Anarchy) to show up...  

****.  **** is getting SO REAL on this show.  

1 minute ago, Ball Security said:

I don’t have any advice, but I have seen many, uh, documentaries about future son-in-laws meeting one on one with their future mother-in-laws.  So, congrats, I guess.

 

Seriously, good luck to you.  That’s tricky.  Congrats on the upcoming birth.

Thanks man, I appreciate it!  

5 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

Girls are way easier when they are younger, at least in my experience.  That can go in the Parenting Thread. 

 

 

Definitely way easier for SIL.  If I tried to keep my MIL away from my kids, it would not go well, and she's the sweetest lady I know.

 

That said, don't forget that you are in the right here and she is making an indefensible, selfish choice.  Ultimatums suck, but what is the middle ground?  There really isn't one.  She either gets vaxxed or she exposes your baby, who has no immune system yet, to a deadly disease.  Maybe the risk isn't all that high, but what % of risk are you willing to take when it comes to the health of your kid?  She's putting you in a ****ty situation and that's ****ed up. 

 

 

Yep.  Maybe ask her how much danger she's willing to put her grandson in. 

That's a good one.  I'm a believer that lecturing isn't a way to go about getting someone to change their mind and this is where the fiance has failed when dealing with her mother.  Asking questions to lead them to answers is the best way and I think this one is good, counselor.

The only problem, is...I don't know if she sees covid as a danger.  

22 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

First and foremost, congrats!  

 

Second, if you need baby ****, we are constantly getting rid of **** (especially if it's a boy).

 

Third, to answer your question, no.  My SIL, who is NOT a right-winger (she's a ****ing vegan) lied (by omission) about getting vaxxed until I straight up asked her and she said she got one shot, but wont be getting any more.  I tried once to sway her opinion, but she won't engage because she knows her decision is not defensible (and that I will destroy her), but she's sticking to it.  

 

It's much easier for me with a SIL rather than you with a MIL.  I'm not going to be around her both because of the covid risk and because I think stupidity of this magnitude should result in some amount of ostracizing.  

Thank you, sir!

Yep, it's a boy.  Thankfully.  One of my friends was like "If you have a boy, you only have to worry about one dick.  If you have a girl, you have to worry about ALL the dicks."  If I was about to become a girl dad, I'd be buying up all the potato sacks everywhere because she wouldn't be wearing anything else until she was 18.  

In regards to ostracizing...man, I hate to think that way, but for a SIL, it's probably easier.  MIL, is probably harder, especially when this is her first grandchild by her only child.  So...she's been waiting awhile for this.  And like I said, I hate ultimatums, I think they're juvenile but in this case probably necessary.  

In regards to your other point, they know their points are indefensible, hence lying and lying by omission.  Ask a few questions, they fold like a card table.  The fiancé and I have asked reasonable, logic based questions and it's met with "Well, I'll have to think about it" or "Well, I'll have to see..." 

It's hard dealing facts to people who are making emotional decisions.  

I don't get too personal on here because I think it's ****ing weird to do so.  But I also recognize that a lot of you are smart people and I need to draw on some experiences outside of my circle of friends and relatives because I'm dealing with a situation that is somewhat perplexing to me.  FWIW, all my friends, family members, people I work with are vaxxed, my fiance can say the same for most of her circle of friends and family.  I'm not one to get upset and pissy when someone isn't vaxxed, it's more of an eye-roll and move on.  In short, no one likes to be told what to do.  

My soon to be mother-in-law is a really great, sweet, sweet lady.  And my soon to be wife is about to have our first baby (no, a shotgun wasn't involved) due later this month.  Long story short, we're making it mandatory that anyone who wants to stop by and see the baby and hang out has to have been vaccinated and a booster shot if they're due for one.  That goes for friends, grandparents, other relatives, etc.  Like I mentioned before, shouldn't be a problem since everyone we know is vaxxed.  

But my soon to be MIL is digging in and refusing to get her booster (and I'm questioning if she ever got the vax in the first place, more on that in a second).  Her reasons, or what seem to be her reasons are founded in religious, right wing nuttery as one might expect...I can't relate to it at all, neither can my fiance.  MIL to be is from deep South Carolina, so you can imagine the type.  Very nice, very sweet, would do anything to help a friend and she's never met a stranger.  But we steer clear of discussing the political/religious stuff.  

Last week, a dear family friend of my fiance and her mom wound up in the ICU with Covid.  Similar mindset, Republican, conservative Christian...sounded like she was on death's doorstep there for a minute, but thankfully she's making a recovery and now, of course, regrets not getting vaxxed to begin with.  So that's staring my future MIL in the face and she refuses to acknowledge it.  That information isn't swaying her.  

6-7 months ago, MIL to be had a knee replacement surgery and I was under the impression that she couldn't get the surgery without proof of being vaccinated.  After she left our house earlier this afternoon, I asked my fiance if she'd ever seen her mom's vax card, she said no.  And that when she took her to the surgery earlier this year, the hospital, inexplicably didn't ask to see one.  They asked her the standard questions before wheeling her into surgery but no proof of vaccination was needed.  I asked why, she said that's when there was a lull in new cases being reported and it was a little more relaxed.  Anyway, I posed the question if she ever got vaxxed in the first place because...well, why WOULDN'T you get a booster if you already got the vax?  That makes no sense, even for someone who's dealing from an illogical place of right wing Christian nuttery.  Now my fiance is PISSED at the prospect of her mother having lied to her for the past several months, putting her at risk (already has thyroid issues) while pregnant.  While it's only a theory, my fiance seems to think that her mother would lie about getting the vax to begin with.

So, anyway, it's been put in my capable hands of saying to my future MIL "Hey, Mrs. Spiff is working late Tuesday night and so I'm bringing over dinner and let's hang, we haven't done that in awhile," and try to broach the subject with her.

Have any of you had success in swaying someone who thinks this way?  Earlier I was like, "Hey, even Donald Trump got the vaccine," and she just kind of smiled and nodded.  Like if your God-runner up gets it, isn't that enough?  

Fiance and I don't want to make an ultimatum "No vax/no booster, no baby" because ultimatums suck.  Fiance seems to think that her mother will try to wait that one out because she only lives 15 minutes away and we'll for sure need her to help with something eventually and call her...vaxxed or not.  But like I said, we don't want it to come to that.  

So...sorry for rambling, but that's what I'm dealing with.  Let me know if any of you have anything that's worked on changing the mind of a conservative Christian zealot who doesn't want to get vaxxed.  

15 hours ago, mistertim said:

 

I'm not talking about running at all. I'm talking about the overall QB skill difference between Drew Brees/Russel Wilson and Chad Pennington/Tyrod Taylor. Those guys aren't even in the same galaxy. It just makes no sense as a comparison. As far as TH, if I had to make a comparison I'd say guys like Brees and Wilson are QB Ferraris and Heinicke is an MX-5 Miata. Middle of the road sports car and can get the job done, but certainly not a Ferrari (though to be fair, a hell of a lot cheaper than a Ferrari and can still get you from point A to point B well enough usually).

 

Paging @TryTheBeal!to the thread.  

9 hours ago, TK said:

I binge watched it last week. Just wait for Theo Rossi (Juice from Sons of Anarchy) to show up...  

This is definitely what I am going to be watching while I work today, for sure.

Trez appears to be the heart and hustle guy of this squad and he's a smart player, too.  I get the contract year thing, but he's been good before.  I think this is who he is.  He's not Andray Blatche.

This True Story show on Netflix.  First episode, kinda interesting.  Kevin Hart, Wesley Snipes (both are good, Snipes is fantastic).

Though I'm not sure if I really care about the storyline for starters.   Basically, Kevin Hart is playing a famous standup comic (not a departure, I'm aware), goes home with a girl, wakes up, she's dead.  Panic ensues with what Snipes (his brother) and Hart decide to cover up what happened.  **** goes sideways real fast.  Hart puts Snipes in charge of figuring out the cleanup, but Snipes is kind of a ****up.  

The whole "waking up to a dead girl in the bed" storyline is played out and unoriginal, but I've got a feeling the story is going to go deeper than this.

Hart is getting stronger and stronger in the first episode.  There's some funny stuff in the first few minutes but he's got some serious drama chops.  Also, Billy Zane is a great creepy/bad guy.  

WHOA WHOA WHOA **** just got really real and now I'm hooked, what the ****.

Led Zeppelin, The Biography by Bob Spitz.  If you like the band, highly recommended.  Not sure if it uncovers anything new but it does a great job of relaying how the band came to be and how they were driven apart (before Bonham's death, hope I didn't spoil it for anyone).

George Jetson is going to be conceived this weekend, FYI.  

A couple years ago, I bought a pretty cheap Canon printer for the home office.  Good to be able to scan and print every so often.

What a piece of ****.  I didn't buy the cheapest one they had, but certainly not the most expensive.  Two months after getting the thing, I practically had to take it apart to fix a paper jam, one of those paper jams that you have to pull the paper out but the printer has a ****ing iron grip on it so you end up tearing most of the paper out and all that's left is like a ****ing inch or two that you can't reach but yet ITS STILL ****ING JAMMED.  One of those paper jams.  

Put it back together, it made this terrible rattling noise ever since.  Went to go change printer cartridges this week and this yellow warning light came on, I don't know what the **** I did wrong but whatever.  Pulled them out, put them back in a bunch of times, followed the directions.  They wouldn't slide back and forth and disperse ink, whatever the slider mechanism is called just wasn't working.

Fiance and I went out to Costco tonight, bought an HP printer (**** you, Canon) and I promptly came home, put on "Damn It Feels Good to be a Gangster" and went to town on the old printer, Office Space style.  I didn't have a baseball bat but I put it in a trash bag, dumped it in our garbage can outside and went to town on it with a hammer.  

Didn't get the DeNiro kicks in, but wailing on it with a hammer was fantastic.  Pretty sure the neighbors think I'm a psycho, but whatever.  Garbage gets picked up Friday morning, I might do it again tomorrow.

14 minutes ago, PartyPosse said:

If it weren't for Dwayne partying with strippers Taylor would still be sitting at home.

Thanks, Dwayne! 

6 hours ago, Renegade7 said:

People need to stop saying the reason folks want to replace him is because he's undrafted. 

 

People like pedigree.

A long time ago, I saw a quote from a player and I can't remember who it was.  Can't even remember the sport.  But it was a guy who was undrafted, or drafted very low.  And he was a good player.  But he was like "Even though I've been here for a bit and I've proven myself, I still know that people are quick to write me off because I wasn't drafted.  I've got to take every opportunity to show that I can play.  Someone that's a first overall pick gets every opportunity to show that they can't play."

It sucks, but it's true.  I mean, say Heinicke was some guy that we drafted in the 2nd round and he started playing like this.  Yes, he still had a weak arm, yes he still made some questionable decisions....but he'd strung a few really good games together after a rocky start and was trending upwards.  I'm willing to bet the conversation about Heinicke would be vastly different.  

Man, this is hard.  I think it's going to be 

Raiders 24

WFT 21

7 hours ago, Califan007 said:

Not too confident in having to face DeSean Jackson...although he seems to disappear after making one long highlight-worthy TD.

He's not hurt yet?  

2 hours ago, Dan T. said:

 

Think about this.  Max has the most career strikeouts of any active pitcher in the game, and is currently 18th all time. If, starting in 2022, he notches 215 strikeouts per season (his career average) until he is 48 years old he would STILL not overtake Nolan Ryan's 5714 Ks on the all time list.

 

I am not arguing Ryan is the best pitcher.  But he is the unquestioned Strikeout King by a crazy wide margin.

 

 

 

 

Ryan's 5,714 strikeouts.

 

 

 

Ryan's strikeout record is so far out of reach, it's unbelievable.  

I'd also add Rickey Henderson's stolen bases to that list, too.  

2 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

 

Nerd.

I am what I am.  

He's probably the most unique pitcher ever.  Maybe the most unique player ever.  IMO, that's cooler than a Cy Young.

2 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

 

What's really crazy--he never finished higher than third in Cy Young voting.

He finished second in 1973 to Jim Palmer.  Benefitting from having WAR now, in hindsight Ryan was better than Palmer that year but neither one of them was better than Bert Blyleven.  

It's really not that crazy.  He never was the best pitcher in his league.  You could argue his 1987 season where he had a 2.76 ERA to lead the league was his best year.  They gave the Cy to Steve Bedrosian, who was very good but wasn't the best pitcher.  Sutcliffe was better.  Hershiser was better.  Bob Welch was better (7.1 WAR).  

You could also argue for his 1981 season, but no one was going to beat Valenzuela that year.  Still, Carlton had a better year than Ryan did.  

11 hours ago, Dan T. said:

 

You were saying?

 

Father time caught up with him, just took a little while longer.  

Pretty much the biggest outlier in baseball history, though.

I don't know the first thing about Dr. Oz, other than he's on TV.  But whatever, apparently if you're a celebrity that qualifies you for office somehow.  

I don't care who gets taken down...right, left, it doesn't matter.  I just want to see some chaos.  

If this **** goes through trial and some high profile people aren't brought to their knees in her wake, it's going to be a travashamockery.