Califan007 The Constipated

6 hours ago, Koolblue13 said:

It's amazing that the entire NFL and NFL media are all sleeping on Heinicke being better than Mayfield, but yet someone on ES knows the truth and the rest of the world can't see it.

Well, not all NFL media lol...

A few NSFW words from John Mellencamp...

I said awhile back that Jason Wright was brought in first and foremost to change the workplace culture and make it so that the types of toxicity that ran rampant before did not happen again. I'm not gonna be cynical and will say it appears he has. I'm hoping so at least. As far as I know there have not been any reports or "sourced" twitter news about anything negative about the work environment since he took over. So he's done well in that area, at least. Things like the "right shade of burgundy" and the Super Bowl years were much farther down on the list for me personally. Far easier to change the SB years than to change the work culture.

26 minutes ago, Conn said:

I fully feel you here. For me personally, and everyone handles this differently, I hit an age (and comfort level with myself and my career) where I started to see it as a mark against my character if guys who knew me in a setting like that saw me as a “safe space” for their comments in the first place. Like, for me that began to mean that I wasn’t showing enough of who I was to make it obvious I wasn’t someone to snicker with. That isn’t an option for everyone in every situation—people have to get by and that’s always been the tough part about getting along in the workforce among people who can destroy you or derail you if they feel you aren’t “one of them”. I’m lucky to be in a leadership position where I can create the environment I’d want to work in, but that wasn’t always the case coming up. 

Hoo, boy, is that bold part ever true.

23 minutes ago, TD_washingtonredskins said:

 

I agree...I don't think those comments are horrible. But if he's saying something like that to someone he doesn't know all that well, imagine what's under the surface for the 15 years he worked there!

That's an excellent point...

9 minutes ago, RandyHolt said:

Interesting hearing the one side happy to use the R word.

 

Quietly whispering for his removal has gotten NO where. Calmly presenting evidence methodically hasn't worked. Maybe the committee didn't want her taking the exact same tactic and saying the exact same thing as those before her? Maybe getting angry will have a better chance of getting into the news cycle. Lord knows the only men speaking that loudly want the case closed.

 

Sadly, patently false statements overt lies crazed conspiracy theories and yelling have become a very effective tool by politicians to get publicity.

No one has quietly whispered it, and definitely no one in today's hearing. It was out loud and direct. And it was convincing...far more convincing than the showboat yelling and demanding an answer from Goodell from the one congresswoman on something that he couldn't deliver. The way it was done by the other congress member makes sense and makes you think...her way just turns off those who don't want Snyder to be forced to sell to begin with.

1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

I think as far as Larry goes its one comment that fits other narratives about him.  I sympathize some with Finlay because when guys start talking like that, they are egging on the other to say something and that's how Finlay's comment comes off to me.

 

On the radio, Finlay's been really tough on Dan through the whole process.  His partner, Brian Mitchell, has been the dude constantly playing devil's advocate on behalf of Dan -- though he says he's just trying to be fair. 

Agree completely about Finlay's possible motivations. However, I've been in Finlay's position where coworkers (well a coworker and my boss) were talking sexually about a female acquaintance we also work with, and the egging didn't work on me...in fact one of the guys looked at my facial expression after their comment and said "What? You mean you wouldn't **** her?" I shook my head and rolled my eyes. However (again lol), Finlay's relationship with someone in the organization is different than mine was with the two guys I mentioned even though one was my boss...so I could probably be more forward and direct with my reaction than he could with his. However (thrice!) I know how "guys" are when they're alone and no women are around...they can be pigs.

6 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

this is that segment

 

 

 

Not to diminish the comment, but I've had far far worse said to me on the job directly to my face. That comment means so very little in the grand scheme of things. It might be a reflection of the overall mentality of Larry Michael but it's not really evidence of anything to clutch the pearls over.

From watching this hearing, you know if Snyder had appeared half the questions would have been about the name "Redskins" and whether or not he felt he deserved a new stadium...

The last guy should have shown this article instead of the one he did...it would have been far more potent:

Sexual harassment fund exposes Congress

Under Congressional Accountability Act, taxpayers pay for secret settlements. Where's the accountability?: Our view

3 minutes ago, RandyHolt said:

Remove him!!! yes its high time someone just said it

It's already been said (or heavily alluded to) by others. She asked it in the worst way to actually lead to his removal, though. Yelling it angrily did no good. Another congress member did it the right way, by calmly showing Snyder was in breach of NFL conduct policies and leading Goodell down the road to the point of basically saying someone who has multiple violations against the NFL conduct policy should maybe be removed?

Tlaib is blowing it...another blown opportunity to grandstand instead of bring about understanding and change.

Goodell slipped up lol..."We have made significant changes to the organization--they have."

3 minutes ago, Jumbo said:

i sympathize more than ever with those who find it near impossible not to make political comments in this thread while watching this hearing

 

what bothers me more  is that the remarks i want to make would fall under the 'political' category rather than 'basic human do's and don'ts" that should be evaluated with one possible consequence of that eval being banned from this plane of existence

 

 

Khanna and Krishnanoorthi have been the most impressive (possibly the only impressive lol)...there was also the two black congresswomen, Brown and whoever else the other one was.

EDIT: I take it back about Brown (somewhat lol)...she faltered down the stretch.

And Grothman is doing it the exact WRONG way.

Khanna is doing it the right way...

WTF is Fallon going on about? lol...I mean I know, but still.

I will say this: Goodell has done a good job of not being cornered into saying what different committee members from both sides want him to say.

1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said:

This was pretty damning with Goodell saying under oath that the culture at the Commanders is by the far the worst culture he's seen in the NFL more or less

Was about to type the same thing...the whole "This same thing goes on all over the league" kinda got flushed down the toilet, unless others come forward in the future and say "Um, it's just as bad here." Can't just assume anymore than the NFL as a whole fosters these types of environments.

Krishnanoorthi's chart did a good job of driving home the redacted names and lack of transparency on the Washington report...that was how it should be done.

Krishnanoorthi asked the wrong question..."You don't have any evidence that it did not happen" is not really a valid question. But I will say the dude is building a valid case for kicking Snyder to the curb, though...

1 minute ago, 86 Snyder said:

I feel like if Connelly had 30 more seconds the next thing out of his mouth would have been “why don’t you just redact the names”

Should have been out of his mouth during the first 30 seconds.