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Pretty sure he meant "Now" instead of "Not" lol...

1 minute ago, The Rook said:

 

What?  And miss out on this?

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Rook

 

 

Is that Heinicke on the left? lol...

Not sure about Cheney, but my view on Kinzinger's political past with Trump is this:

- Over the last 2 years of Trump's time in office Kinzinger voted with Trump 78% of the time...not 98% of the time.

- The idea that every single bill that Trump backed or did not back should--by default--be seen as bad for the country is ludicrous. Some of the things Kinzinger agreed with Trump on were: 

     - Increasing coronavirus-related stimulus payments to $2,000 from $600

     - The Pandemic Aid bill

     - Providing assistance to people affected by the coronavirus

     - Banning flavored tobacco products

     - United States-Mexico-Canada trade agreement

- And some of the bills Kinzinger voted for that Trump was against include:

     - Funding the Treasury Department, the Internal Revenue Service and several other government agencies

     - Funding the Department of Transportation, the Department of Housing and Urban Development and related agencies

     - Funding the Department of Agriculture, the Food and Drug Administration and related agencies

     - Funding the Department of the Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency and related agencies

     - Disapproving of the Trump administration’s plan to lift sanctions on three Russian companies

     - Funding most of the federal government through Sept. 30, without money for a border wall

     - Providing disaster relief money, including additional aid for Puerto Rico

     - Opposing Trump’s withdrawal of troops from Syria

     - The National Defense Authorization Act

     - Expanding the national apprenticeship system

     - Overriding Trump’s veto of the National Defense Authorization Act

     - Impeaching Trump on a charge of incitement of insurrection

- And key issues Kinzinger was against that Trump supported:

     - Objecting to Arizona’s presidential electors

     - Objecting to Pennsylvania’s presidential electors

Yes, I also know there were a lot of things Kinzinger voted for that Trump wanted that I feel were bad for the country. However, he was anything but a rubber stamp for Trump over Trump's last 2 years as president.

- He's been publicly criticizing Trump for the last 3 years, long before January 6 happened and long before Liz Cheney got on board that same train.

- He's not running for President (or any office). If he were, I'd never vote for him...not because of his perceived alignment with Trumpism but because regardless of Trump his political beliefs don't come close to aligning with my own. But that doesn't mean much of anything to me within the context of holding those responsible for the insurrection accountable for their actions and making sure something like this never happens again. If they are playing a legitimate role in helping to bring that about, I don't really care if he's not a Democrat.

On 7/3/2022 at 1:01 PM, Voice_of_Reason said:

 

TH has a better completion percentage than Wentz don’t you know?  

Can we keep the TH / zCommander shade to the QB thread? lol...

On 7/4/2022 at 7:29 AM, Leonard Washington said:

These are two guys the team needs to put on the podium first instead of Chase Young.

They have.

2 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

 

Both Kinzinger and Cheney are POSs who voted with Trump 98% of the time.

 

Don't ever forget that. 

I don't give a ****.

41 minutes ago, Captain Wiggles said:

By November it'll be "Democrats wanna bring drag shows to your children's schools so they can harvest their precious adrenochrome." and it'll most likely work.

Um, that's already their strategy now...

At the very end you can almost hear him saying "**** this ****..."

Kinzinger is going out without any filters lol...good thread:

There's a whole lot wrong here lol...

40 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

I always feel like when some prefaces what they are about to say with “know your history” they are about to say some ****ed up ****. Not left disappointed here.

It's the mating call of the arrogantly stupid...

A whole bunch of incredibly funny NSFW words lol...Maya trying to handle some seriously hot wings and beer (I think):

8 hours ago, Mooka said:

The more you focus on this nothing of a story the worse it gets for the Jan 6th hearings actually accomplishing something. 

 

Even if it were 1000% true... who cares? 

 

Seriously, Trump lunged at his own protection agent? Who ****ing cares. The Secret Service agent I'm assuming is fine. Ya'll sound like Guliani having guy arrested for assault for touching his shoulder. 

 

Or maybe it says something about Trump's mental state or whatever? Pffft. We had 4+ years of listening to and watching Trumps deranged/retarded/word garbage/mind-numbingly dumb nonsense where every day and everything just got worse and worse and worse.  Him lunging at his own Secret Service or trying to grab the wheel would be like #4,786 on the list of stupid/illegal/asshole **** he does on the daily. 

Nobody gives a **** what we focus on...while there is hangwringing over us talking about the SUV story, the people who actually matter are focusing on everything needed to put Trump away, either literally or figuratively. But personally, if the story is 100% true it showed just how desperate he was to be part of the riot and leading "his" armed people. That underscores intent and planning. So it's important.

Throwback Thursday...

4 minutes ago, hail2skins said:

Was Ornato even in the SUV himself? Or was he just relating to Hutch what he'd been told by the men who were in the vehicle with Trump?

The 2nd one...guess he's now saying basically that he doesn't remember telling Hutchinson the story the way she said he told it. It's a step back from "I didn't tell her that story."