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  1. 4 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

     

    Seriously? Miller was the Super Bowl MVP. Manning was a game manager--and not a very good one at that. They won the game in spite of him, not because of him. Please.

     

    You want to explain, then, how Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Nick Foles won Super Bowls? How Mitch Trubisky was a horribly missed field goal away from an NFC Title game appearance?

    umm.. sure.. Eli, Flacco and Foles were superbowl MVPs.. and again i am not talking about superbowl specifically. I am saying that QB has much more impact than any other position on the field. and can make a difference between 3 and 10 wins by himself. No other position including pass rusher can do that

  2. 15 hours ago, Koolblue13 said:

    This argument is tired. No one player wins you a SB. Brady didn't do it alone, Steve Young didn't do it alone, the "one player away" argument is tired too. San Fran went from crazy to the SB. Was it because they drafted Bosa? No. But it sure as hell made a huge difference. 

    Thats just not the case.. yes .. one person CAN win you a Superbowl ..but its not even about the superbowl.. a QB can take an average team and make it very good. No other position can make that kind of an impact, because no other position on a football field has that level of control and influence on the rest of the players. A great defense can carry a QB but its still not one player... as good as Bosa is, that whole niner Defense was incredibly solid and healthy. (something it wast the year before) 

     

    There are countless examples:

    Gurapolo coming to a winless Niner team and rattling off 7 straight wins.

    on the opposite side:

    Chicago is built to win now lots of talent on both sides of the ball and yet cant seem to win mostly due to the QB

     

    12 hours ago, Riggo#44 said:

    He lead the Super Bowl winning defense that propped up an aging Peyton Manning. 

    fine.. he led that defense.. but Manning won that superbowl.. Whatever he lacked in his arm.. he was by far the smartest player on that field and a QB is more than just tossing the ball to the open player. His adjustments at the line , tricking the D, opening up running lanes, etc is unmatched.. he is widely considered one of if not the smartest QB in the NFL

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  3. 24 minutes ago, Warhead36 said:

    Rivera hit the nail on the head. Trading down in theory sounds great but often times you're giving up a star for a bunch of guys.

     

    Look at the RG3 trade in 2012. Now can anyone name one player the Rams took with those picks without google?

     

    The Chiefs traded up to get Pat Mahomes. What did the other team get for those picks? Nobody has any idea, because they passed up on what could be the QB of this generation.

     

    Blue chip players win games. Chase Young is a blue chipper. We haven't had a blue chipper since RG3 and that was for just one year. We haven't had one on defense since Sean Taylor and that was 2007, 13 freaking years ago.

     

    Chase Young. No matter what.

    correction.. blue chip QUARTERBACKS win games. while pass rushers could impact a game and could even win one or two.. most of the time teams can game plan to put them out of the game.

    how many superbowls have any of these guys won?

    • Cameron Jordan, Saints.
    • Myles Garrett, Browns. ...
    • Calais Campbell , Jaguars. ...
    • Demarcus Lawrence, Cowboys. ...
    • Joey Bosa, Chargers. ...
    • Jadeveon Clowney, Texans. ...
    • Danielle Hunter Vikings. ...
    • Mack
    • Donald
    • Von Miller

     

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