illone

Keim knows nothing and has reported nothing.

Whispers and rumors are NOT reporting.

Just like everyone during silly season, he has to put content out.  It's not a knock against him.

The only knock that doesn't even count is his OBVIOUS Ohio State fandom clouds his judgement, but other than that Keim is basically royalty in Washington.

Just dont ask him to give an honest assessment about Ohio State players or Michigan players.

2 minutes ago, CommanderInTheRye said:

BTW this headline is clickbait,

 

So sad and so indicative of the times we live in.

 

It's gotten to the point where even legitimate websites are sensationalizing and downright lying just to get clicks.

Yea, i mean they dont really need to bait me. I'm hungry for content regardless lol.

They could just say "NFL DRAFT CONTENT" and I'd probably click on it

1 hour ago, CommanderInTheRye said:

Challenge:

 

Predict the top 5 picks (with trades) for bragging rights.

1. Caleb

2. JJ - Wash

3. Daniels - NE

4. Maye - Vikings trade up

5. Alt - Bolts

McAfee comes right out and suggests there is a mock draft conspiracy that ESPN has Daniels going 2, and NFL.com has Maye going 2.

I'll take it one step further: McCarthy is the pick and the entire industry melts down which only benefits the league as a whole. More clicks, more attention, and more $$$

So the tin foil hat pick is JJ.

BTW this headline is clickbait, nowhere in the video does anyone suggest the Commanders are selling the #2 pick.

Cool interview

1 minute ago, Koolblue13 said:

Thank you for proving my point. Everyone was focused on being so wright, they missed that.

Malcomb Kelly and Jason Candle resent this post. 

Not a fan of me first players. 
 

Real football glory is team, not me.

3 minutes ago, mistertim said:

This thread is such a rollercoaster, man.    

 

Keim: "There's not a 0% chance that they'll take McCarthy at 2 overall"

 

ES: "OMG WE'RE TAKING MCCARTHY AT 2! MAYBE HE'S THE NEXT BRADY! OR PURDY ON STEROIDS! HE CAN PLAY IN COLD WEATHER! I HEAR HE HAS A 12 INCH PENIS!"

I was wondering how he got the nickname “tripod”. Thanks for confirming why!

Just now, CapsSkins said:

Anyone know how McCarthy's physical talents compare with Purdy's? 

Tough to compare since they ran different combine drills. 
 

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/brock-purdy

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/jj-mccarthy

all we can really do is run a very sophisticated “eyeball test”. JJ is superior in every category 😂

Florio is such a tool. 
 

1 minute ago, mistertim said:

 

I think I missed it. This thread sometimes updates so fast. Do you remember which page it was on?

yea it does. This thing moves faster than Jayden Daniels moving down draft boards

starts around 49:00

Just now, mistertim said:

 

Obviously this guy has no more actual insider info than anyone else, and I'm not entirely sure i buy his take that the whole Top Golf group thing was solely to test Daniels, but I do buy that it was at the very least partially to test them all. Throw them a big curveball. See who thrives, see who adapts, see who doesn't, see who complains. Life as an NFL QB is basically a giant curveball and you have to be able to handle novel and stressful situations in a measured way. Also tests leadership ability. See who sticks out, see who brings people together, see who sticks to themselves, see who sulks.

did you catch the PFF video I posted earlier on the subject? 

Jayden loves him some him. 
 

that jacket tho

Just now, Kalu44 said:

Are defenses THAT much better in the SEC than ACC? I don't watch College Football, so I wondering that the real answer is. Not sure how much that enters into the Daniels vs Maye discussion.

Usually, yes. 
 

those tides are turning, though. 
 

Florida states defense may have been better than anything in the sec last year sans maybe Mizzou. 
 

LSU’s defense was trash. 
 

It’s kind of a mixed bag really but if you look at the rankings, big ten had the best defenses, followed by SEC and then probably ACC better than big 12 and pac12. 
 

3 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

I actually think the fact that he took Kyler points to him being very flexible with who he can work with, as opposed to that being the type of QB he looks for. He was a new HC with a #1 overall pick. They had Rosen, who he probably knew sucked and didn't like.

Exactly right. Murray was an upgrade. End of story lol

Just now, mistertim said:

i love how so many people assume they know exactly what Kingsbury wants or thinks about these QBs, as if he's even said a single word to anyone about it outside of GMAP and DQ.

Exactly. 
 

I also hear a lot of talking heads suggest he would want a “kyler Murray” type QB...

why?
 

Kyler was injured for the final two seasons of Kingsbury’s run in AZ. Why would he want that again?

16 minutes ago, redskinss said:

One, on most of his dropbacks he had the cleanest pockets I've ever seen, like absolutely perfect and he had an eternity to go through his reads and even when they did eventually break down it was one rusher coming free and he could pretty easily side step and move forward because the rest of the pocket was still perfect.

The offensive line was definitely one of the most dominant in the league last year, but was more optimized to running the ball. He faced plenty of pressures and dirty pockets. Probably less of that than say Drake who probably faced the most dirty pockets of the qbs in our range.  Not sure the exact numbers, I’ll see if I can track down “pressures” for each player.  LSU had a dominant oline too but their players were coached more towards RPO style plays. 
 

I wouldn’t call JJs pocket “perfect” though. He moved around and created throwing lanes often. In the penn state game they could not block chop Robinson so they simply abandoned the pass all together and handed it off 30x in a row. 
 

16 minutes ago, redskinss said:

And two, Harbaughs system. He's a winner at every level and has a long history of having quarterback friendly systems, between the plethora of quick timing passes and the abundant and very strong running game he was put in a position where the game wasn't put on his shoulders, he never really had to carry the team just execute his job well, and he certainly did that.

If we are going to give Harbaugh the credit then why is JJ the only QB to take Mich to the playoffs?

Moreover, Michigan didn’t win a bowl game until JJ...
 

I think ultimately JJ makes some of this stuff look easy. After watching him all year I finally just came to the conclusion that he is playing quarterback at a high level. 
 

There are always concerns with any player, but with a guy like JJ you are drafting a football junkie. A high character kid that will study his ass off and lead the team forward. You won’t have to worry about off field issues. He’ll be the first guy in the building and last guy to leave. He was quoted as telling players looking to party to avoid signing with Michigan football. That’s a mature move IMO. he is the culture changer type player that this team and city have been yearning after for decades. 
 

My 2¢ anyways. 
 

8 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

I don't think this is necessarily true. You don't have to design runs for Daniels because he's going to just pull his eyes down and run anyway once he's pressured.

So you're saying the scheme will give him the Option to run or pass?

👀

11 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

Hopefully they don't bring any other guests on at the same time or Daniels might have a panic attack and run out of the interview.

Surprise!

51 minutes ago, MartinC said:

No. That would suggest he is limited to playing in that style. I don’t think that’s remotely true. 
 

Lots of film of him playing from the pocket without RPO. I’m still in the Drake Maye camp - but would have no concerns at all if we drafted Daniels. I think he can be scheme diverse, though it would foolish not to use his wheels in some capacity and I would expect RPOs to be a part of what you would do with him especially early.

I think you HAVE to have RPO heavy scheme if you draft him.

We tried that experiment already.  Hard pass.

1 hour ago, CapsSkins said:

I'm, uh... I'm coming around on McCarthy. 😶

 

@illone what have you done to me?!

 

28 minutes ago, mac8887 said:

I’m fairly certain that Daniels played under center more at ASU than Maye ever did at UNC, or any of the other QBs coming out other than McCarthy 

Advanced college stats are tougher to come by, but I do recall plenty of him playing under center in Herm Edwards slightly more pro style system. He is still an RPO player, though. Herm even said as much in the Keim interview.

25 minutes ago, MartinC said:

83% of all offensive snaps last season were out of shotgun. 
 

https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/15/jared-goff-under-center-shotgun-passing-stat-splits-percentages/#

Interesting numbers, but it doesn't separate RPO from non-RPO, which I'd categorize Daniels as an RPO player, wouldnt you?

I doubt Peters is seriously considering Daniels.

Jayden is a RPO Qb and operated from the SHOTGUN for his entire college career AND didn't have the film study nailed to be able to read and diagnose things pre-snap. This does not fit the profile of the type of player that Peters wins with or even has experience with.

Where Jayden improved greatly is post snap reads, which is great, but he still isn't ready to handle pre-snap reads, and he hasnt proven he can play under center. This is kind of a big deal.

For context, I took a look at Adam Peters' draft history with regards to the position.

Here is an exhaustive list of all QBs he was directly or indirectly involved in drafting over the years:

1 minute ago, Jumbo said:

Internet QB thread living up to the reputation of the genre. 😁

Never disappoints. 🤣