skinsfan66

I guess we need to define Supreme Athletes then. My opinion of them would be they are not at the moment.

I am trying to think of a supreme QB athlete who has won a S.B. and that is the goal. I can think of many processors that are not super athletes. Brady, Stratford, Mahomes, Manning's, Foles, Rogers, Roethlisberger........ No winners that I can find? He does not have to be a super athlete for me, and does not have to be a super runner. A RB has a short life in the NFL, why draft a hybird RB/QB? His career is going to be shorter most likely if you use him that way.

Was does those numbers of points giving up by his team have to do with the QB's?

Running the ball and clock control will win games too keeping the other team off the field. Having a QB that moves the sticks in crunch time wins the big games too. The (Harbaughs) teams play together. It's not that they have the best players on Defense, it's they have a lot of good players all over the team in every phase and they work together. LSU, Wash, Oregon have the better skill players. Like the Ravens, Michigan coaches, player leadership, run, pass, block, play D, special teams...Complete game that's why they gave up 28 points 1 time and they played the best doing it. That's what Champions do!

least excited for Daniels. (If they draft him I hope I am wrong). His Age, Body/Style of play. move him down for me. He had the one of the most talented offensive teams around him last year. 2 of his WR's could be all pro's in the NFL. His running is a plus but like Bob that does not turn the needle for me. Maye last year did not have the Offense talent like 2022. He is young and I much prefer his age/Body style of play. Some compare him to Herbert who is a favorite of mine. I could get excited at 2. J.J. Played on a all around team with a lot good players on Offense not great. Has won everywhere he has been, State. HS champ, Nat. HS champ Nat. College champ. I prefer his age and leader style. But not at 2 and with a slight trade down (that would be a surprise) because he may sit a year or may not. I could get excited. I wanted Howell to be here too just in case. I cannot get excited for Penix because of injuries and mobility in the pocket. Played on the most talented offensive team WR's and OL overall. If we took him in a major trade down late 1 early 2 I would be okay. Williams will not be in play. I have not been for a move up to 1 also. Not sure Nix get's drafted in the 1st. Maye is the no.1 choice for me. J.J. at 2/5 is no.2 choice Be okay and not very excited with the other 2, but could be won over. Has been this way for me all the way through and the Howell trade sealed the deal. Whatever happens I hope they get it right. They have choices and I will be on board.

Dent,Hamton, Marshall.... carried that team to a S.B. win. I go with the 85 Bears best ever. Did they ever play a Champ. game while Buddy was there. Eagles were the best at trash talking, no dou't about that. NYG. D was up there too in that Era. Reggie White, Lawerence Taylor best ever. Gibbs owned Buddy in the playoffs.

About 50% more or less on this board maybe for a draft pick?

So they are playing it out? I see no risk either of the QB's maybe a comp pick for the loser down the road if some team still wants them.

25 mil backup, Or playing it out.?

I took a lot bullets for Sam early and often throughout, but it became clear there was not going to be a trade down and keeping him on the team as a backup or spot starter with the free agency haul. He took a lot of shots in hear too. Good spot for him in Seattle.

I was wondering about Penix too and those no.s and what I think about the chart, My opinion, he sucks at moving around to get a throw off so he does not. He is going to stay in there when every other QB as already put their feet to work. He got beat up by Mich. and it cost them the game. He should have threw the ball away instead of just chucking it down field and getting picked. Daniels takes off way to early and uses his feet as a weapon while not looking to throw. Caleb does the Mahomes act passing from any position behind the line and makes more time to throw. Maye is moved off because he has no choice and can throw on the run and run enough to extent the play. McCarthy drops back less but when moved he can make the throws while moving and he has some wheels too.

OTs please!

K.Curl hurt himself a lot with his message to Wash. Then got screwed by all the safties being dropped right after.

That's the feeling I get too once you get to the 4th and up rds. in mock drafts nothing really stands out like past years. Get your picks early seems like the ticket because there is not a lot later.

Kliff can answer that we do not know? just saying.

Looks like he found his QB, Smart Man why not pick the best.

One point in his parting message to Charger fans was he is going to look for a new QB to throw to him. Not seeing it here at the moment. Next Year?

2022 Howell 5th rd. 1st pick > 2024 Low 3rd rd. pick per trade chart numbers? So how did Seattle get the better deal? Value at 3rd = trade comp 3rd? Just going by what was posted as comp per chart by others. Anyway you look at it a low 3rd is greater than a 5th.

I thought K.Curl released a cryptic message saying he would not sign here about a day before all the safeties were dropped? I was thinking you burned your bridges. Not sure if it was fake or just read it somewhere?

Who keeps bringing this up and posting it, not me? I have only replied to posts. Is this a court trial? Evidence, Precedence? Do I have to get a Lawyer? It's a opinion, I would sit a QB if he was not ready no matter where he was picked even no.2 and you have your opinion. You would like him to start no matter the case.

Correct, I withdraw my post. 🤨

Who cares they are all different people, my point is they do not have to start right away, yours is they do. We already covered that.

no post.

I agree on the injury thing too. I want to keep Howell and they added another Vet, good. So if the rookie is not ready and Howell had a bad 2nd half. does that not give you depth at QB to make a start if needed? We need 3 QBs we got lucky last year not the years before. This was a response to the rookie has to start. Not if you have a couple Vets on the bench and you are not ready.

While have not given up on Howell as a decent QB I think if you like one in the draft and can get him on a rookie contract, keeping Howell till you do is what I would want.