SoCalSkins Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Originally posted by End2round2sanders I beg to differ. He was the last qb to take us into dallas and leave with a win. Remember '95. When dallas won the super bowl and we swept them that year? Worst QB's Cary conklin Rich gannon Conklin was awesome every preseason. He could through around 70 yards in the air. If you weigh the cost of the player versus production, Heath is the worst by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominatingDonkeys Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 How quickly we seem to forget about Rob Johnson. We've had to many garbage qb's over the last decade to even vote on ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddogCT Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Originally posted by prophet Didn't wuerffel have better stats than both ramsey & matthews the year they all played together? I remember him playing the best.. I know he completed over 60% of this passes go figure There is a reason for that 60%: Only 92 Attempts! Some stats for you: Skins Stats C _A __PCT_ YDS Y/A _TD INT Wuerffel 58 92 __ 63.0 719 7.8 _ 3 6 Matthews 124 237 52.3 1251 5.3 11 6 Banks 198 370 53.5 2386 6.4 10 10 Shuler 186 390 47.6 2403 6.2 13 19 George 136 236 56.5 1457 6.2 7 9 Brunell 118 237 49.8 1194 5.0 7 6 As a comparison: Johnson 543 883 61.5 6510 7.4 35 28 Career Stats: C_ A__ PCT YARD Y/A TD INT Wuerffuel 184 350 52.6 2123 6.1 12 22 Matthews 492 839 58.6 4756 5.7 31 24 Banks 1264 2331 54.2 15142 6.5 76 71 Shuler 292 593 49.2 3691 6.2 15 33 George 2298 3967 57.9 27602 7.0 154 113 Brunell 2314 3880 59.6 26987 7.0 151 92 Johnson 2165 3503 61.8 23913 6.8 143 98 :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red zone Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Damn good thing this isn't a spelling test. Lord. Beyond that :sucks: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Originally posted by MaddogCT There is a reason for that 60%: Only 92 Attempts! yes but the other 2 were sub 55% and ramsey was 49% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red zone Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 While Heath may have had some of the poorest stats, he also had the HUGE disadvantage of playing for Norvell Turner, a first time head coach. I'd take Heath over all the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddogCT Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Originally posted by prophet Originally posted by MaddogCT There is a reason for that 60%: Only 92 Attempts! yes but the other 2 were sub 55% and ramsey was 49% But the biggest problem: 3 TD's vs 6INT's. Mathews had 11 TD's to 6INT's Ramsey had 8TD's vs 9INT's. Danny or Heath....both were really bad. I still say Theismann could throw the ball further today, right now, than Wuerfull could. :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckflhp Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 I gotta go with Brunell. Never in all my years watching football have I ever seen such a dropoff in performance. Because the past shows us how good he was for his previous team, it makes last years performance even worse. Heath Shuler had the ill luck to be drafted by Turner. Poor kid looked like a deer caught in the headlights 99% of the time. Got his clock seriously cleaned every game. I still believe if he had been drafted by a team with an established veteran, and given a chance to develop, it might have been a radically different story. I also don't think he ever recovered from that initial whooping he took. If you look at why the Redskins drafted him, the kid had been an exceptional winner since Pee Wee ball. Ironically he had also grown up a Skins fan. Dreamed of playing for them. I thought Turner was a good OC, but was overwhelmed as a Head Coach. Heath wasn't a bust, they broke him. Hail :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief skin Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Shuler was a bust from the word go, Turner had to have him so he picked the bum. He was going to be the next Troy Aikman. The high draft pick, the high expectations, and his lousy attitude, combine to make him easy for the fans to hate him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKS1414 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Gotta be Shuler...no contest.....did he actually ever really play here????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Shuler without a doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Jeff George. That opener agains SD a few years back was the worst I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucaro Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Shuler, Shuler, Shuler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaDRoc Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 Shuler.... It can't be Danny cuz he had that one really good preseason game :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAFGA Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 I voted for Shuler. Brunell was on the downslope. Shuler was supposed to have upside and got beat out by a 7th round draft pick (Frerotte). By the way, Frerotte is still in the league as a backup. Banks wasn't that bad. He bought into Marty's system and was very servicable. I felt like we should have kept him. He's still in the league as a backup. Remember, he's the QB that led us from the 0-5 start to a 5-5 record. That accounts for something. He didn't do it alone, but he sure didn't cost us any victories during that span. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js161 Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 Shuler by far, all the hype he got and he was a top 5 draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 Heath....... I think mentioning that name in Redskin Country should be considering a Cardinal Sin. He caused this organization more shame and humility than any QB in our history. Just thinking about his games make me wanna :puke: Let the name SHULER be stricken from every book and tablet. Let that name never be spoken in DC again. So let it be written........ SO let it be DONE!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightenupSandyBaby Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 All of the above....but Heath is the worse simply because of High expectations.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atloldskin Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Heath was at least likeable. Jeff George was despised--even by his own teammates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsguy29 Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 Heath Shuler gets my vote. Probably because there was so much expected from him. However, Jeff George is right up there. Brunell was horrible this year, but in his defense, he hadn't played in awhile and didn't play but half the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omerwig Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Originally posted by Nemesis Heath....... I think mentioning that name in Redskin Country should be considering a Cardinal Sin. He caused this organization more shame and humility than any QB in our history. Just thinking about his games make me wanna :puke: Let the name SHULER be stricken from every book and tablet. Let that name never be spoken in DC again. So let it be written........ SO let it be DONE!!!!! I second that. Whenever "his" name is even mentioned in my presence, I'm ready to start scrappin' (haha). Seriously though, the rest of those guys were either washed up when they arrived in DC, or never had talent to begin with. Heath...DAMMIT, I just said his name!!! What I meant to say was..."that guy from the University of Tennessee" was HANDS DOWN the WORST QB in Redskins history. :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I was big on the Shuler bandwagon. He had it all. Big arm, could move around, take hits. He had all the physical tools. It was such a shame he never had the mental game to succeed at the NFL level. A story that I have heard from a friend was that in his first 2 years in Washington, he had posters in his house of the plays blown up so he could get the playbook down. I really thought him showing up 13 days late to training camp put him behind the 8 ball forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Portis Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 People should be banned for even mentioning Shuler. :laugh: But seriously, lets just try to not remember. Like so... Who's "Heath Shuler"? Who did he play for? The Redskins? No,No,No,No....I never heard of that player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Shuler by far, I can't believe people still wear his jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaBeachSkinzFan Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Originally posted by SkinsFanMania Shuler by far, I can't believe people still wear his jersey. People still wear his jersey? The only guy I have seen still wearing his jersey was a bum in D.C. But let's be honest his wordrobe has to be pretty limited. I mean the poor guy had on the M.C. Hammer pants for god's sake. Anyway I would have to vote for Shuler. I don't think Brunnell should even be on the list. Yeah the guy sucked last year but there were a lot of things that went wrong last season and you can't blame him for all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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