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Dont worry guys. Ignore all the precedent about his frame and age. He's just a late bloomer like Hendon Hooker, Pickett, Stetson Bennett, Weeden, Weinke, Joey Harrington, Jason Campbell, Akili Smith, and Ryan Tannehill... HTTR

I think the age variable is huge. We have two 21 y/o (Maye & JJ) and three 23/24 y/o (JD, Penix, Daniels).

Couldn’t agree more. The only glaring issue with him on tape is the sloppy/inconsistent footwork. He has the processing, arm, anticipation, size, athleticism, and personality to be a great QB.

This is getting ridiculous. After what just happened last year with the Panthers, no team in their right mind in the top 5 can trade their pick this year, plus a 1st, plus more. #2, #36, 2025 conditional 3rd. If the Bears want Daniels/Maye, we are their only chance...If they want to go with Fields, then we should bow out because another team in the 4-10 range can give them a haul.

Dont care what platitudes people use. Im sure people thought McVay or Mike McDaniel could be another Josh McDaniels or Kliff Kingsbury because of them being "Young, offensive geniuses." Quinn is not Rivera. You are hearing from local and national reporters that coaches, player, and FO personnel from around the league texted them with how highly they think of Quinn as a smart, driven football coach that can communicate a vision and execute on Sundays.

These responses are laughable with no self-awareness. Quinn is known as a team/culture builder for a team looking to rebuild. MAYBE he has a ceiling once you get in the playoffs. But where do you think this team is at right now?!? Hint F'n Hint... we have the 2nd pick in the draft for a reason.

Im not "Old". I just turned 37, and many of my friends are 31-36. And if a player wants to paint his nails and say cringy slang, fine...BUT NOT THE F'n QB. Save it for a WR/CB... Stroud, Richardson, Howell, Lawrence, Burrow, Herbert... All of these guys are Calebs peers and dont act like that. I see much more Cam Newton in Caleb, and we've seen how that worked out. Won 12 games twice over 11 years and had a losing record in 8/11 years. Again, I am not saying he will completely wash out, but if Caleb has a Newton type career (And please dont pin your hopes on one miraculous 15-1 year), then that would be a bust for how highly he is being touted. I would probably rank Maye as QB1, but I dont LOVE him as a prospect. Daniels is great, but when you look deeper there are some concerns about the parts being greater than the Sum. I.e. Daniels has a good arm, quick release, and amazing deep ball accuracy, but only with a clean pocket. His accuracy falls off pretty bad and he really doesnt drive the ball well. His running ability is 2nd to only Lamar, but his frame is TERRIBLE, and he takes big hits. Also, his ability to throw on the run is very underwhelming.

Im not saying Caleb WILL bust, but there are a couple things that are highly concerning to me: - His flashes on the field are phenomenal, but he his performance against top teams is awful - He sits out the Bowl game, and his backup lights up the favored Louisville with 330 yards, 6 TDs, and only 1 pick. Hmmmm - He seems a bit causal/too cool in his interviews and does weird Gen Z stuff like paints his nails a bunch of colors. Sorry, but your franchise guy/leader should be a bit more professional. - Along with the above, He seems very RG3/brand centric type guy. Other players "going to war" on the field will resent that attitude and loose play style. - His dad floating ideas about getting equity in the franchise also goes with the previous points. Again, there are on the field stuff (playing within structure, accuracy/consistency, etc.)... But I try to find the obscure details, especially with QB's, as this alludes to future success/failure.

Dont be shocked if this happens... The Wizards were very much viewed as a bottom rung franchise. They then proceeded to get the brightest "Big Picture" Ops guy in Winger, AND the brightest young GM in Dawkins, AND one of the best scout/personnel guys in Travis Schlenk... We could see a trio here of Ops (Peters: Big picture/Org/Stadium/etc), GM (Cunningham: Team structure/contracts/trades/etc), and Scout/Personnel (Mayhew?). Harris is going to go big and set up a REAL organization here...watch.

Thanks for bringing up the Daniels vs Howell Comp... While I agree about projecting tools, can we all step back for a second. Daniels is 3 months younger than Howell. Can you imagine the production Sam Howell today would put up at his age today with the LSU supporting cast?!?

I think the FO is setting up a number of moves that require upfront cash (SB) and need to hold off until a new owner is in place. Fuller and Samuel are two guys that we should restructure, but will require up front cash to do so. 1) Cut Norwell 2) Restructure guys in their prime (26-28) by giving them signing bonus and extending 1-2 years. Fuller, Samuel. 3) Keep needed expiring Vets with injury history. Roullier, Thomas. 4) Extend guys on rookie contracts. Curl, Sweat.

Simms had him as the #1 safety in the draft and 2nd beat nickel.

Dont disagee. But we sometimes forget how young Chase is. He is 2.5 years younger than Sweat. Its the same difference as Daron Payne and Jahan Dotson.

LOLOL... that last question about what he is prioritizing next. I.E. Money, location, team, etc. His answer: "I cant say too much right now. I'm just trying to get my stuff and get gone." Translation: Get me the hell out of here.

I know people referenced Chris Collinsworth with PFF stating that Dotson "Will catch 100 balls in this league"... but I actually think the full quote is more telling. Skip to 19:00 .... "I think jahan dotson is one of the smartest receivers that i've seen in a while...He gets what the quarterback is seeing and how they get into the holes and and make easy throws hot reads he gets his head around" So lets recap a bit from 30k feet. If you give me a player in any professional league that has a bunch of good, but not elite traits across the board. But the thing he is elite at are 1) The most important/fundamental skill for that position/sport (For WR its Hands) 2) In game IQ/play speed/spatial awareness. I have to bet on him. We will desperately need a do-it-all WR in 2023 when Terrys extension kicks in and Samuels is undoubtedly cut with his cap hit.