SkinsRback04 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Essentially Bram is saying Coles no longer has any leverage and will be traded by Washington on Redskin terms. We take the cap hit but get the receiver we would rather have...or at least one who wants to play here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbeskin Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Enough of this, lets get it over with, making me go crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 That cap hit is huge, I say find another deal or release him. Moss isnt worth it, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzfan4life Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 I read somewhere something that i though was a good deal....wait a few weeks....then if there is a team with a need for a reciever coles becomes more valuable....then maybe you can get something else a 2nd and a player a #1 or something of the sort. But wait it out and if nothign happens show him a copy of his contract and remind him that its his signature there and he has to play or he can sit out and more or less hurt himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 I'd rather have the cap relief this year and a draft pick next year than to have to eat his bonus that he gets paid for quitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vnmenon1 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 I say lets avoid the cap hit and just play him... come on, "bad locker room guy"... right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soljaofjesus Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Originally posted by fdarugar That cap hit is huge, I say find another deal or release him. Moss isnt worth it, imo. agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyZeb Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Originally posted by fdarugar That cap hit is huge, I say find another deal or release him. Moss isnt worth it, imo. Agreed, except releasing him will no longer help us with the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty P For The Pulitzer Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Originally posted by SkinsRback04 Essentially Bram is saying Coles no longer has any leverage and will be traded by Washington on Redskin terms. We take the cap hit but get the receiver we would rather have...or at least one who wants to play here. Well, as long as the other team doesn't chicken out by Coles' demand for a new contract. And there's no point releasing him now. Chances are slim to none that he will still give the money back after all this, and we'll take the same hit this year now either way. Definitely get something for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citigent Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 even up moss is not coles but hit or no hit why lose coles for nothing by releasing him . stand firm he helps make a trade happen or he will be suiting up in B&G next year. i hope they do trade him with his new attitude but get moss or somthing for him. might be worth it to get deal set but drag feet alittle since it appears burress will sign soon with viking. that will take all the most sought after wr off the market and maybe someone will givethe skins a better offer, if not again moss is better then nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwebst1 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Originally posted by fdarugar That cap hit is huge, I say find another deal or release him. Moss isnt worth it, imo. Exactly, for those who think the Skins can trade Coles (taking a 9 mill cap hit which turns out to about 6 mill against this years cap) then still re-sign/sign players, then be able to sign their draft picks (including the number 9 which requires big bucks), is crazy.... How could they do this? I'm not asking to be a jerk, but can someone explain how this can happen w/o restructuring the whole team and/or releasing more players, which in turn they will need to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Does anyone know exactly what the deal is???? Well????? Stop the griping until we actually know what we get, and have to pay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLSKINSFAN Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Let's get Moss and get this thing over with, I'm sick of hearing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 In my opinion, the Redskins are essentially tap dancing around the distinct possibility that Coles' bonus if he is kept will require us to bite a still large bullet in 2006 or 2007 because his toe injury is degenerative. If this is the case it is worth trading him NOW for a healthy player that the team can use. If we had done what Coles originally requested and merely released him we would have NOTHING to show for giving up the #13 pick in the draft. That isn't a smart move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Originally posted by bulldog In my opinion, the Redskins are essentially tap dancing around the distinct possibility that Coles' bonus if he is kept will require us to bite a still large bullet in 2006 or 2007 because his toe injury is degenerative. If this is the case it is worth trading him NOW for a healthy player that the team can use. If we had done what Coles originally requested and merely released him we would have NOTHING to show for giving up the #13 pick in the draft. That isn't a smart move. Finally some common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzfan4life Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 I still think we should wait for a few weeks for this because then the "big name" WR's will be gone...perfect time to shop coles to teams that need a WR...more value = better stuff in return! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins0128 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Originally posted by bulldog In my opinion, the Redskins are essentially tap dancing around the distinct possibility that Coles' bonus if he is kept will require us to bite a still large bullet in 2006 or 2007 because his toe injury is degenerative. If this is the case it is worth trading him NOW for a healthy player that the team can use. If we had done what Coles originally requested and merely released him we would have NOTHING to show for giving up the #13 pick in the draft. That isn't a smart move. Uh oh, whats that? A voice of reason??? How refreshing that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsRback04 Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 Yay for common sense!!!! I think there's good upside with a receiver like S. Moss. Very young and with veteran receivers like Patten and Thrash around the tutleage Gibbs loves to see would be a good thing all around. Chill out everybody...it's just Sportstalk right now...but it makes a hell of lot more sense than cutting or keeping IMO. Plus...the odds of actually getting M. Williams in the draft are not good. Would he be a killer addition...no doubt. But Gibbs has to deal with the realities of FA versus the scheming/dreaming of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Right now I would trade Coles for a 2nd rounder and a large pizza, but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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