f_trizzy Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 I was hoping it was a rumor but once I saw it was reported by Jay Glazer on Foxsports I figured it was probably true. I wonder if Pierce even gave us a chance to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishomelette Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Originally posted by bhayesp thanks for capitalizing my point This PFT topic has been beaten to death. Art has written many times about it as he worked with these people back when NFLTalk or whatever it was called was still around. Do a search on the topic and maybe your eyes will be opened a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Montana Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 I just hope this doesn't make Danny panic and overpay for Smoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Originally posted by bhayesp thanks for capitalizing my point Mike Florio has a few sources with a few teams, so he has some correct inside information on occasion, but the majority of his connections are just feeding him unsubstatiated crap that he reports. He is admittedly not a journalist, and does not fact check as a journalist should. He like crating a stir, that's for certain, but to take any of that stuff as gospel truth is really foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfujskins Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Oh, and have fun facing Gibb's complicated offense, Pierce. At least you might make the game somewhat respectable when we give the vaGiants their annual asswhippin' Edit: Guys, bear with me. I need to vent. I have about 2 or 3 more rants left. Promise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzmuda Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3433974 The deal is a six-year deal worth $26 million and includes a $6.5 million signing bonus, a tremendous figure for the up-and-coming linebacker. The structure of the deal is also done in a way to benefit the Giants salary cap and gives them some wiggle room over the course of the deal. Pierce has not yet signed but the agreement is in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Perhaps we will match... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishomelette Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Originally posted by bobzmuda http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3433974 quote: The deal is a six-year deal worth $26 million and includes a $6.5 million signing bonus, a tremendous figure for the up-and-coming linebacker. The structure of the deal is also done in a way to benefit the Giants salary cap and gives them some wiggle room over the course of the deal. Pierce has not yet signed but the agreement is in place. There is still a chance....phew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz13 Posted March 3, 2005 Author Share Posted March 3, 2005 The Giants may noy allowed Pierce to give the Skins a chance to match. Maybe they said the deal is only good if you sign it now. Also thanks to some of you for backing up PFT, because some people jumped down my throat when I posted it. Not that they are always right, but they have been right on on a lot of deals lately. They did have the R. Moss trade days before it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfujskins Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Originally posted by chaz13 The Giants may noy allowed Pierce to give the Skins a chance to match. Maybe they said the deal is only good if you sign it now. Also thanks to some of you for backing up PFT, because some people jumped down my throat when I posted it. Not that they are always right, but they have been right on on a lot of deals lately. They did have the R. Moss trade days before it happened. Every once in a while, even a blind squirrel finds a nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLusby Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 It said he agreed to terms but has not signed. He did this with the Vikings last year and gave us a chance to match. Match it Danny Boy as I believe he is extremely important in our #3 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 i'm going to drop it on this note...i agree he isn't a journalist...and i never said he was always right...i clearly stated he gets things wrong...all i was trying to say was that anyone who has been following him lately can clearly see he has gotten better...maybe his sources, maybe his bs detector...i don't know...but he breaks stories over national media outlets...it's impressive...mainly, i just can deal with some of the ignorant remarks about it...but that's really my problem...i've calmed from them pierce news though...so i off of it...sorry to take things so far off topic...thanks for being straightforward Gilgamesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 We all new that we probably wouldn't be able to sign both Smoot and AP if AP got a great offer and that is exactly what he got. Its the same way we got coles in the first place. Just good timing for the lucky team that gets our AP. I hope whoever said "maybe AP will be our Trotter" is right cause he is welcome back anytime. He is prolly going to become an OLB (his natural position) and he should be pretty successful. I wish him luck and just hope he has enough class not to bash us in the media. Unfortunately a very few will show that lack of class here and join in on bashing/questioning this move for him. Thats a big contract for a small guy. He did well and should get paid but the timing was bad for us. We've got a lot of money invested in our linebackers and this is exactly the swallow your pride move that our management needs to learn from. Hopefully our front office can learn from this and try to identify and lock up some young players like AP before they get away in the future. Good luck Antonio, I will be routing for YOU 14 times a year! :ciao: :peaceout: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Originally posted by bhayesp i'm going to drop it on this note...i agree he isn't a journalist...and i never said he was always right...i clearly stated he gets things wrong...all i was trying to say was that anyone who has been following him lately can clearly see he has gotten better...maybe his sources, maybe his bs detector...i don't know...but he breaks stories over national media outlets...it's impressive...mainly, i just can deal with some of the ignorant remarks about it...but that's really my problem...i've calmed from them pierce news though...so i off of it...sorry to take things so far off topic...thanks for being straightforward Gilgamesh No worries. I do agree with you that he is better than he used to be, at least about being somewhat objective. The thing that I like best about Florio is that he provides legitimate criticism of mainstream sports media when they do lousy work. You can't have enough of that in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Originally posted by chaz13 Also thanks to some of you for backing up PFT, because some people jumped down my throat when I posted it. No one jumped down your throat. The moderator and others suggested instead of taking a website that 'gets it right sometimes' word for it and posting it as fact, that it might be good to put 'rumor' in the thread title instead of stating it as fact. Thats just being courteous. And its been suggested about 100 times in the past week. If you don't understand why guys get irritable over it, you're not paying very good attention. And whatever you think of pro football talk, its an opinion. We all have a right to one. One man's ignorant is another man's plain as day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfujskins Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 You know what. I thought about it for a few minutes and I believe we should MATCH that offer, if given the chance. :whew:, got that out of my system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark84 Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 I keep hearing the Giants want Plaxico and Bell. They aren't going to have the cap room for Pierce as well as those two. If that is true about a 13$ million bonus, Bell better sign asap. He isn't worth close to that, the guy never plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Oh well... he was vastly overrated. Take his numbers this year and whoever plays MLB next year will put up the same or better numbers. Congrads to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippy1973 Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Originally posted by Truant Oh well... he was vastly overrated. Take his numbers this year and whoever plays MLB next year will put up the same or better numbers. Congrads to him. "Vastly overrated" IMO...NO he was not not. He was a very good leader of GW defense. Heck, maybe he gives the Skins a chance to call the contract??? :gaintsuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASkinsfan28 Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 I dont think he will do that good any where else as a mlb he undersized for it and i think he is just a product of greg williams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
convince Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3433974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngblood Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3433974 Sources told FOXSports.com that the Giants have come to terms on a deal with Washington Redskins MLB Antonio Pierce, a huge loss for their division rivals Redskins. Pierce also had interest from the Chiefs and an offer from the Vikings, who jumped into the fray today. The deal is a six-year deal worth $26 million and includes a $6.5 million signing bonus, a tremendous figure for the up-and-coming linebacker. The structure of the deal is also done in a way to benefit the Giants salary cap and gives them some wiggle room over the course of the deal. Pierce has not yet signed but the agreement is in place. Pierce was loved by Redskins LB Gregg Williams, who once told FOXSports.com that Pierce is one of the smartest linebackers the defensive coordinator has ever coached in his career. Ironically, he was able to jumpstart his career when he filled in at Washington for another former Giant, Michael Barrow. Bell, brought in by the Giants earlier in the day, was brought to New York for a physical but the team soon backed off when Pierce came into the picture. It's unclear if the Giants had Pierce in their sights during Bell's visit or if they jumped into the Pierce derby as a result of Bell's visit. Pierce had a breakthrough season in 2004 when he registered 160 tackles according to the Redskins totals, 112 according to the numbers on NFL.com. He was also responsible for making several defensive calls and often helped putting other players in the correct position. :gaintsuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippy1973 Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Please AP make this say.... Giants ATTEMPT TO steal Pierce away from Redskins I am calling this now.... Pierce will sign a deal with the Skins :nutkick: :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Worthy Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 If we match the deal, then how much will we have left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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