Stu Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Interesting perpective from our Russian friends. _______________________________ Vladimir Putin, CBS News Loyalist By JOHN F. DICKERSON http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1032354,00.html Sunday, Feb. 27, 2005 George Bush knew Vladimir Putin would be defensive when Bush brought up the pace of democratic reform in Russia in their private meeting at the end of Bush's four-day, three-city tour of Europe. But when Bush talked about the Kremlin's crackdown on the media and explained that democracies require a free press, the Russian leader gave a rebuttal that left the President nonplussed. If the press was so free in the U.S., Putin asked, then why had those reporters at CBS lost their jobs? Bush was openmouthed. "Putin thought we'd fired Dan Rather," says a senior Administration official. "It was like something out of 1984." The Russians did not let the matter drop. Later, during the leaders' joint press conference, one of the questioners Putin called on asked Bush about the very same firings, a coincidence the White House assumed had been orchestrated. The odd episode reinforced the Administration's view that Putin's impressions of America are often based on urban myths fed to him by ill-informed aides. (At a past summit, according to Administration aides, Putin asked Bush whether it was true that chicken producers split their production into plants that serve the U.S. and lower-quality ones that process substandard chicken for Russia.) U.S. aides say that to help fight against this kind of misinformation, they are struggling to build relationships that go beyond Putin. "We need to go deeper into the well into other levels of government," explains an aide. --By John F. Dickerson From the Mar. 07, 2005 issue of TIME magazine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpillian Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Man, I knew the lower prices on those chickens stamped "For Russian" were too good to be true... :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 You can tell a lot about a person or a society from what they assume... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Originally posted by jpillian Man, I knew the lower prices on those chickens stamped "For Russian" were too good to be true... :laugh: now they've got me wondering if those sneaky ba##ards are hoarding all the good vodka and sending us the backwash!!!! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Hey, leave the chickens for the Ruskies....give me that genetically engineered masterpiece, the Kentucky Fried Critter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpillian Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I wonder if Smirnoff is Russian for "floaties"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 Originally posted by zoony now they've got me wondering if those sneaky ba##ards are hoarding all the good vodka and sending us the backwash!!!! :laugh: I don't think there is anything but secondhand borscht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter's Better Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I think it is a scary scary thought when you think about what Russia just agreed to do with Iran. Puts things in perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portisizzle Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Originally posted by zoony now they've got me wondering if those sneaky ba##ards are hoarding all the good vodka and sending us the backwash!!!! :laugh: Don't laugh. I was in St. Petersburg 18 months ago. I would say that the vodka presented to me at some of the dinners was like drinking jet fuel!! Of course, don't take my word for it. I do not usually drink shots of vodka as a pre dinner ****tail.:puke: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick301 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 It is human nature for people to believe what the want to believe, and when someone says something that is close to what they want to believe, that reinforces their belief. It also show why a free press is so vital - to get both sides of the issue out to dispell innacurate stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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