hokie4redskins Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Long time reader, short time poster. I came across a thread stating Bush was a Pukes fan. Can anybody confirm his team loyalties?? His family is deep rooted in Houston which automatically makes him a puke-hater for life I'd imagine. Astros, etc. Not that it'd change my vote because Kerry is just plain garbage but I'd be devastated to know our Commander-in-chief was a Sallad fan. :dallasuck :puke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Just one more reason to dislike him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor The Invincible Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Um, I believe he has always stated that he was a Cowboys fan, and asked those of us in Washington not to hold it against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanforlife Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 yeah well u know bush is from tx and u know them rednecks, they all have to stick together. Better bush than other presidents being a cowboys fan i guess because bush is one dumbass president in my mind. at first when media and people in general indicated that he wasnt the brightest president ever, i laughed and said "Bush went to harvard......" the more i see him and listen to him , he is one dumb son of a *****. i guess u can get a free ride to the whitehouse as long as you grow up in power house family. whats with those 5 second pauses during his speeches. its like he forgot his lines and he is trying to think so hard to rememeber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 I agree that Bush is not the smartest president ever, but he went to Yale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomerics Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Originally posted by Fred Jones I agree that Bush is not the smartest president ever, but he went to Yale. Yea, it's amazing what money will buy when you're a "C" student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sick Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Undergrad from Yale, MBA from Harvard. Got into Yale as a legacy. Got into Harvard to avoid Vietnam. ------- A Newsweek profile observed that young George "seems to have majored in beer drinking at the Deke House." Whenever he had some free time, Bush was spending it getting drunk and/or laid, when he wasn't busy playing competitive sports, or doing whatever it is they do in those twice-weekly meetings at Skull and Bones. And besides, George had become acclimated to simply coasting through life. Experience taught him that there was no problem that couldn't be solved with a little money, or a couple of well-placed phone calls from his father George HW Bush. So why should he kill himself to get straight A's? It was just completely unnecessary. The basis for this outlook on life was never illustrated more clearly than when George was confronted with the specter of the Vietnam War. After Yale, Bush successfully dodged the draft by volunteering for a six-year hitch in the Texas Air National Guard. This required some serious string-pulling, but the Bushes had lots of friends in high places. Evidently hoping to avoid winding up in Southeast Asia, on his application George checked the box labeled do not volunteer under the heading "overseas assignment." Bush was immediately accepted into the Guard, where he got promoted in record time. He was also fast-tracked into the 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron, which involved skipping over a waiting list full of qualified applicants. And then for four years he did as little work as possible, just the minimum required to remain in the unit, which was based in Houston. Then in May 1972, with two years left on his enlistment, George headed off to Alabama and requested reassignment to an inactive postal unit there. This request was a little odd for an Air National Guardsman, seeing that the outfit had no airplanes. Bush's request was denied. But for some reason he decided to stick around Alabama for a few months and didn't return to his Houston post until he was required to receive an annual physical. Then, for some reason, Bush was grounded by his commander for "his failure to accomplish annual medical examination." Either he never showed up, or he flunked it. We don't know for certain because his military records are sealed, and can only be made public with the subject's assent. Bush has never chosen to make them available. The most plausible theory is that George ran into a problem with the compulsory drug testing. If he did show up for the physical, maybe he flunked the urinalysis. If he didn't show up, maybe it was out of fear of what the drug test would reveal. Whatever the reason, Bush never flew again. And he still had another two years to go on his enlistment. So he just sat around. In fact it's unclear exactly what, if anything, he did during those two remaining years. The only thing we know for sure: whatever it was involved neither flying planes nor getting shipped off to Vietnam. The Party Animal After he just sort of wandered away from military service, Bush's partying lifestyle resumed with a vengeance and it continued to cause him trouble. According to a friend, he and George spent a lot of their free time boozing it up at parties: "We did drink... we drank what people gave us to drink... And if we went to a party and they were serving liquor, then we would drink it, and we would drink it until it was gone." Sometime around Christmas in 1972, George drove home drunk with his teenaged brother Marvin and plowed into a neighbor's garbage can. When daddy said he wanted to have a talk, George tried to pick a fight with his old man, challenging him to go a few rounds "mano a mano" outside. As Bush well knew, there's really no better place for a drinking man than college. So that's where George headed next. In 1973 he enrolled in Harvard Business School and spent the next two years earning his MBA. He spoke fondly of the institution in his 1999 autobiography, declaring: "Harvard gave me the tools and the vocabulary of the business world." In 1974, George spent Superbowl Sunday at a party hosted by Hunter S. Thompson. When asked decades later if he remembered whether Bush had used any drugs at his party, Thompson replied: "I can't be expected to remember what every drug-addled yuppie hanger-oner who wanted to get close to me during a football game twenty-five years ago digested. There were so many dope fiends milling about, I don't remember what some Yalie named Bush, whose father was a factotum in the Nixon Administration, was doing. But he strikes me as the sort of person I would have thrown out of the room. A rich, beer-drunk yahoo with a big allowance who passes out in your bathtub. ... I don't want to become the Deep Drug Throat. ... I won't do it." Bush continued his life of hard drinking and was finally arrested for drunk driving in October 1976, this time with his teenaged sister Dorothy in the car. But it would be another decade before he finally realized that alcohol was a problem for him. Despite episodes like these, Bush continued abusing alcohol for another decade before finally quitting cold turkey in 1986. But even though he acknowledges that he could never seem to stop after just one drink, George has always maintained that his problem was nothing more than simple overindulgence: "I don't think I was clinically an alcoholic; I didn't have the genuine addiction. I don't know why I drank. I liked to drink, I guess." Years later, Bush reflected on his substance abuse days for a New York Times reporter: "The signal we ought to send to our children is that in spite of what happened in the '60s and '70s, we have learned some lessons. And the lessons ought to be: don't be using drugs and alcohol." Today Bush regrets ever drinking, cannot trust himself with any amount of alcohol, and hoped in vain that his children would avoid it. But don't call him an alcoholic, particularly in front of his kids. Evidently Bush believes that an effective way of discouraging young people from abusing drugs or alcohol is to stonewall whenever the topic comes up. A few years ago he advocated this technique to a Newsweek reporter: "I wouldn't tell your kids that you smoked pot unless you want 'em to smoke pot. I think it's important for leaders, and parents, not to send mixed signals. I don't want some kid saying, 'Well, Governor Bush tried it.'" The man certainly practices what he preaches. Bush categorically refuses to answer questions about allegations of past drug abuse, especially persistent rumors about him having used cocaine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor The Invincible Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Thanks Joe for that elequently unbiased biography of our president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Not to start a fight, but those who know me know why/how I know this: While it is true that he roots for Dallas, the President is actually not much of a Cowboy fan. He is more of a Texans fan, as is his father. He’s never gotten along with Jerry Jones. He is a fan of all Texas teams (as any good Governor is), but has always been more of a baseball fan than a football fan. Don’t start down the path of approving politicians because of their sports allegiances – it’s dangerous, and you might not find what you like. The Redskins veterans, for instance, are widely known as the most pro-life group of NFL folks in the league (Green, Mann, and Monk have all done anti-abortion fundraisers as have several other vets). But you can cheer for the team on Sunday whether you’re pro-life or pro-choice. BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness09 Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Why would anybody even post that? You're a VT guy...I expect that out of a Cavaliers fan...come on, tighten up with the biased reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sick Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Does anybody deny the facts in that article, or just the manner in which it is written? Sorry if the facts don't match the manufactured myth of W the Great. I don't mind being called a liberal. But comparing me to a UVa guy? That, sir, is an insult!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanforlife Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Originally posted by Fred Jones I agree that Bush is not the smartest president ever, but he went to Yale. I think he attended yale as undergrad and harvard for his maters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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