inmate running the asylum Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 How about this DE prospect for the Skins? He is Dave Ball of UCLA. Last year as a soph he had 11.5 sacks and this year he proved it was no fluke, and has had 15.5 sacks the last I read. He is a junior, so if he declares he might be someone we should consider with our #1 pick, depending on his 40 time. The only thing is, I saw him play against USC and he didn't look as big as he is listed to me. Certainly not 6-6 and 275. Oh well, he could still be an edge rusher like Leonard Little or Freeney or so many others now. http://uclabruins.ocsn.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ball_dave00.html Or how about another DE prospect...... Kenechi Udeze of USC? He is another junior. A big kid at 6-4 285, who could also probably play DT. http://usctrojans.ocsn.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/udeze_kenechi00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNorth Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Ball is a nice player, but he is not a top 20 pick, I'm not sure if he even carries a 1st rd grade. I believe udeze would be a good 1st rd pick though. If we are looking for a sleeper, Oregon St. DE Bill Swancutt may be worth a look later in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted December 10, 2003 Author Share Posted December 10, 2003 SkinsNorth, Yeah but I bet if Ball declares and turns in a fast 40 time, you will see him move up the charts fast. A fast 40 time and 11.5 and 15.5 sacks in the PAC10 is a real good resume in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 #6 Constantin Ritzmann (Sr., 6-4, 265) UT quick pass rusher possible mid-late round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted December 10, 2003 Author Share Posted December 10, 2003 Here's another guy. Michael "the burner" Turner, a junior RB at Northern Illinois. Projected 2nd or 3rd round pick if he declares. Listed at 6-0 and 223 lbs. A good pass receiver also. http://www.turnertheburner.com/ Why dont you guys who are recommending other players, give us some stats, photos... or something to show what you are basing your opinion on? Get off your ..... :moon: and do some work. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. D Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 trade down and get back some later round picks there is abunck of lineman that could fill in for us as a speed rusher; how about that kid from OU Cody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Constantin Ritzmann Class: Senior Hometown: Mellensee, Germany Last College: Tallahassee N. Florida Christian Height / Weight: 6-4 / 265 Position: DE Experience: 3L Full name: Constantin Ritzmann ... Elected as team captain for 2003 season ... Missed entire 2002 season and limited in spring practice after undergoing September reconstructive left knee surgery ... Multi-talented athlete who returns starting experience to right defensive end ... Counted on for leadership as fifth-year senior ... Joins Steve Mugleston as only players on 2003 roster born in 1970s ... Sack total in 2001 tied for third on team and upped career tally to seven ... Scored touchdown, a two-point conversion and recorded safety that season ... Had another outstanding offseason in weight room and looks ready to make his mark on 2003 squad... Unusual combination of size and speed for this former high school track athlete ... A native of Berlin, Ritzmann came to United States as foreign exchange student ... Was in Tallahassee, Fla., as part of NFL International's Futures Program ... Married to the former Christina Jean Howard of San Francisco ... Coach Caldwell's evaluation: “We’re looking forward to getting him back. There’s no doubt he has great speed and can make some things happen in the pass rush." ... Born: Dec. 20, 1979. 2002- Redshirted ... Lost for year to knee injury suffered in final preseason scrimmage... 2001 - Games/Started: 13/3 ... Stepped into starting lineup for three games due to injuries along the defensive line and responded in fine fashion … Scored three different ways during the season … Started the season by sacking the Syracuse quarterback in the end zone for a safety … Showed athletic ability when he caught two-point conversion pass on an extra point attempt that went awry … He broke from his right end position into the end zone and snagged the pass despite being guarded closely by a Tiger defender … Finished his scoring with a touchdown against Kentucky … He scored the touchdown when a Tennessee defender fumbled an interception into the end zone … He was on the spot to make the recovery and bring the Vols back from a 21-point deficit to tie the game … Also recovered a fumble at the Tennessee 1-yard line to stop a scoring threat against Notre Dame. 2000 - Games/Started: 11/0...Listed as defensive end, he also gained attention with his work on special teams in kick coverage ... After missing opener with Southern Mississippi, he saw initial action against Florida ... Caused one fumble and recovered another against Georgia while making two tackles, including a sack for loss of 17 yards ... Totaled 14 tackles on the season ... 1999 - Games/Started: 9/0 ... Played as reserve defensive end and on special teams in final nine games following period of adjustment ... Saw action in all four quarters of final four games, including Fiesta Bowl ... Recorded a sack against Georgia for first collegiate tackle ... Also had a sack against Notre Dame ... Recovered a fumble off a punt against Arkansas and made a season-high five tackles against Kentucky ... HIGH SCHOOL - ... Class 2A All-State and All-City ... Foreign exchange student from Germany, he played only one year of high school football ... Considered by NFL Europe scouts as the No. 1 high school prospect from Germany ... Compiled school record 26 sacks among his 150 tackles in 14 games for Class 2A state champions, who had an 11-3 record ... Played in Georgia-Florida All-Star game ... Participated in track in long jump and shot put ... Coach at Tallahassee (Fla.) North Florida Christian High School: Tim Cokely. DEFENSIVE STATISTICS TOT FUM FUM QB Class/Year UT AT HITS REC CAU SKS TFL INT Fr. 1999 6 4 10 1 0 2 0 0 So. 2000 11 3 14 1 1 1 0 0 Jr. 2001 24 9 33 2 0 4 8 0 TOTALS 41 16 57 4 1 7 8 0 Positives: Natural athlete with great quickness and burst off the line. Has a lot of great pass rush moves and is willing to use them all. Has the strength to hold up against the run and uses his hands well to keep blockers from locking onto him. Negatives: Tore up his knee in the final scrimmage prior to the 2002 season and missed the entire year. Tends to outrun rushing plays because of his speed and quickness. Needs to learn to recognize the run quicker and attack the ball carrier. Can be manhandled by bigger linemen if they can get locked up on him. Hasn't had the production you'd expect from a player of his talent. Bottom Line: Needs to add 10-15 pounds of muscle or he may be nothing more than a pass-rush specialist. While he did tear up his knee a little over a year ago, he has shown no ill effects thus far. With the quality of defensive ends this year, Ritzmann may slide to the middle rounds of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted December 10, 2003 Author Share Posted December 10, 2003 Thata way Bubba. Here's another guy if we cant draft the Miami safety, how about Stuart Schweigert of Purdue. A FS senior listed at 6-3 217, with a knack for interceptions. Projected 2nd or 3rd round pick. http://purduesports.ocsn.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/schweigert_stuart00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted December 10, 2003 Author Share Posted December 10, 2003 Here's another mock draft I dug up. This should keep you guys busy for awhile. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted December 10, 2003 Author Share Posted December 10, 2003 DE Claude Harriott of Pittsburgh, a senior listed at 6-4 255. Projected 2nd round pick. http://www.pittsburghpanthers.com/sports/football/bio.asp?PLAYER_ID=1382 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNorth Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by inmate running the asylum SkinsNorth, Yeah but I bet if Ball declares and turns in a fast 40 time, you will see him move up the charts fast. A fast 40 time and 11.5 and 15.5 sacks in the PAC10 is a real good resume in the NFL. I agree if he declares & runs a fast 40 time his stock will increase, but those a 2 big if's. Ritzman is an intriguing prospect as well as he will likely not be a top pick, so he could likley be aquired in the 3-4 rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktball74 Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Does anyone think that Will Smith has a strong resemblance to a certain #71. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Where we draft at 8-8 will depend what we get in the draft. I just hope we don't reach for a DT at the point if there is no one good. If we can get a stud RB, CB, or S, I will be happy, but no reaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Fakeman Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by ktball74 Does anyone think that Will Smith has a strong resemblance to a certain #71. Will Smith is so nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by Troy Fakeman Will Smith is so nice Nah, Brooke Burke is soooooooooooooooooooooo nice :hump: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 I've been following the ball twins a bit since I've been attending UCLA for my PhD. It's kind of funny, thier two DE's are Matt and Dave Ball, and they both only have "BALL" on thier Jerseys. The UCLA defense has been a bright spot, but they don't exactly shut down quality offenses. I figured that was why nobody talked up Dave Ball as a draft pick. Still, if you like ball as a pick, then the DT on the team, I think his name is Leslie, should also be picked up. He is really the force in the middle that makes it all go. Thier Free safety might be worth a look as well. However, I think all of these players are not first round guys, but they might be able to contribute. They played some very good games, but still ended up 6-6, so it's hard to get a read on them. -DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OURYEAR#56 Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 If we trade Champ, then we'll have two first rounders. I like the DE's coming out. But which Cb do we take, DeAngelo Hall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 I've got a feeling that Danny will trade down this year. Never one to be boring, he's got to mix it up somehow. PLus, this defense needs a few young talented players, not just one or two. Let's just hope that Vinny and Danny can evaluate talent a little better than say in 2002...Andre Lott anyone:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJWatson3 Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 i remember seeing UCLA play one game last year and Ball really stood out. mainly because the guy is freakin' huge and had very good closing speed, balance, and appeared to be able to handle a bigger stronger OT. he really impressed me. haven't heard about him leaving school yet or carrying a first round grade, but it is imperative that we draft DT and DE with our first two picks. oh yeah, STU SCHWIGERT (sp?) is gonna be a great pro player. he won't last past the mid-second and might challenge brandon everage as the second safety off the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long n Left Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Here's another mock draft link, 3 rounds. Sorry if this has been posted before. The Skins third round pick would be a stunner. http://www.nfldraftworld.com/mockdraft.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novato Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Vinny "bugeyes" Cerrato gives me the creeps when it comes to evaluating talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Someone mentioned Kenechi Udeze from USC earlier. They said that he could play DT. Well, he could, but why? The kid is 6'5", 285, but he's also a sick edge rusher. He's the complete package. Kinda reminds me of a certain someone that we had to deal with in the 80s and 90s, you know, the guy that Bruce Smith just passed by? What was his name again? Seriously, if Udeze enters early, and we don't take him, we'd be morons. Then again, that isn't all that inaccurate in describing Danny's bug-eyed love slave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJWatson3 Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 i think the guy who did that last mock was stoned. how does ELI MANNING get past SD, and OAK? and last till pick 6? and i hope we reach for a DE in the first. i still don't think there is anybody worth drafting there, but come combine time we'll see. and how does DJ Williams get drafted in the second round? and how do the NYG pass on a OL? that would start fire Accorsi threads on the Giants message boards. and i would rather pick S (Taylor) in the first than any DE available now. the latest nfl draft countdown mock is the best i have seen yet. not in full agreement, but it is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins26 Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 There is a very good DE in Division 1 AA that people were talking about on tv the other day, i forget his name and school. But they showed highlights and i was very impressed. They said he's a beast of a pass rusher and will probably go in the 3rd or 4th round. They said he had 6 sacks in a game once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted December 10, 2003 Author Share Posted December 10, 2003 Skins26, I think you might be referring to DE/OLB Roderick Green of Central Missouri State, who is listed at 6-2 1/2, 243 lbs. Could be either an edge rusher or linebacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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