NFL.com: Cowboys didn't know Josh Brent would be on sidelines

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I knew before even clicking the thread that Asia would be defending Josh Brent being on the sidelines..

[SWFLSkins]

I knew before even clicking the thread that Asia would be defending Josh Brent being on the sidelines..

Mike Golic supports him being on the sideline, Adam Schefter does not, and says that the feeling around the NFL is that this was a huge mistake. Sources, Cowboys; Brent not allowed on sidelines again for the rest of the season.

---------- Post added December-19th-2012 at 08:42 AM ----------

Does anyone know what actually caused the accident? While I agree that his BA numbers were ridiculously high, did the alcohol actually play a (major) part in the accident?

From the pics there appeared to be no contact with anything other than a curb on a left side of the road and then over correction to the right and a flip. I still call into question whether or not a seat belt was in use for the passenger. I think it was a Benz, highly safe vehicle for a rollover if you are belted in. Just speculation there I know, but I would like to know more and I think the seat belt question should be answered and would be helpful. I am a firm believer in it and a survivor of a similar accident and had a belt on.

---------- Post added December-19th-2012 at 08:50 AM ----------

Disclaimer: I am a Cowboy fan who came here solely to follow the accomplishments of Robert Griffin III. I made a rule for myself that I would not post about the Cowboys or the Redskins as a team, because I am not a troll or a XXXX disturber. This post is close to the line of violating my rule, but here it goes:

I guess I am missing something here. What happened was other players on the IR decided on their own to invite Brent to the game. One of them went and picked him up to bring him to the game. Neither the coaching staff nor the front office knew about this. The team did not put him on TV, the TV network did. The team is not to blame here. I get it: you all hate the Cowboys and seize on anything to trash the organization. But in this circumstance, I think the faux outrage is disingenuous. And the suggestion that the Cowboys as an organization somehow condone what Josh Brent did because the are supporting the man as a human being is absurd IMO.

You my friend are very far off. I already commented how I would feel if this were the Redskins or any other team. And if a team is not aware of or in control of their sideline in their own stadium who is supposed to be? You believe the team doesn't know who is coming and going into the teams activities, games or otherwise? That's shocking considering security issues alone. I think the Cowboys misjudged the backlash and thought it would be another step in supporting Brent, that's all. Bad decision. And this is proven out by the reaction of the team at this point.

---------- Post added December-19th-2012 at 08:52 AM ----------

I'm with sinister in I don't understand how absolutely no one knew until he was on the sidleine that he was on the sideline. I can't sneak on the sideline of an NFL game, how did he do it?

And like I said, if the Cowboys were really worried about the sensitivity of the issue, they wouldn've relased him by now. The only reason anyone is saying sorry is because of the backlash from the media. Damn near next day him being banned from the sidelines is on the front page of espn. This is a horse and pony show, and we're just getting taken for a ride on it.

They knew he was there, if not I am really in shock at the lack of control of an NFL sideline and I really hope the Redskins know who is coming and going.

-----being reported that Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett did not know until the game was about to begin. -at that point they left him there, until he left later after the attention of the camera's.

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

I knew before even clicking the thread that Asia would be defending Josh Brent being on the sidelines..

I dont agree with him being on the sidelines, but I support what Stacey Jackson says.

Tony Kornheiser agrees with that too. you mad brah?

[Baylor Alum]

You my friend are very far off. I already commented how I would feel if this were the Redskins or any other team. And if a team is not aware of or in control of their sideline in their own stadium who is supposed to be? You believe the team doesn't know who is coming and going into the teams activities, games or otherwise? That's shocking considering security issues alone. I think the Cowboys misjudged the backlash and thought it would be another step in supporting Brent, that's all. Bad decision. And this is proven out by the reaction of the team at this point.

So you think the owner and the PR guys are on the field checking credentials to make sure everyone on the sidelines belongs there? And the security guards are charged with the task of making public relations decisions as to whether an embattled player should be there? Poppy****. While Jarry sticks his nose in a lot of areas he should not, working security detail is not one of those areas. And Paul Blart is not going to tell a player "sorry Josh, I think your legal problems make it untanable for you to be on the sidelines. Take a hike." But this is a perfect example of the beauty of speculative conspiracy theories - they are not falsifiable and cannot be disproven.

[Mr. Sinister]

So you think the owner and the PR guys are on the field checking credentials to make sure everyone on the sidelines belongs there? And the security guards are charged with the task of making public relations decisions as to whether an embattled player should be there? Poppy****. While Jarry sticks his nose in a lot of areas he should not, working security detail is not one of those areas. And Paul Blart is not going to tell a player "sorry Josh, I think your legal problems make it untanable for you to be on the sidelines. Take a hike." But this is a perfect example of the beauty of speculative conspiracy theories - they are not falsifiable and cannot be disproven.

I think you're a little confused. The issue shouldn't be whether or not certain individuals have the authority to remove a player from the sidelines.What people have an issue with is the fact that the Cowboys organization claims that they did not know he was there beforehand. Again, it is a little odd that players on a team could invite whoever the hell they wanted, and not have them spotted until they were on camera, hours later

If they did not know, then that is a problem, and should be looked into by whoever is in charge of handling that. What would lead me to believe that it was a serious issue, is that the Cowboys have barred him from being on the sidelines in the future.

If they did know, then why did they wait until he was spotted by cameras, resulting in Brent leaving himself, and not being escorted out, and give the impression that they are trying to do damage control by barring him from the sidelines in the future, when it apparently wasn't a big issue to them before that.

Once again, to clear things up, most people in this thread aren't saying the Cowboys should just rid themselves of him and leave him to rot (I'm sure most people don't even have an issue with him even being at the game), and are probably applauding the Cowboys for wanting to help him, but helping him/supporting him, is completely different from him (apparently)sneaking onto the sidelines and chumming it up with other players on live television, a week after killing another teammate in a drunk driving incident.

[Baylor Alum]

I understand what you are saying, and in a previous post, I agreed that that it is fair to criticize the team for not having a plan in place for Josh before the game. And I do not believe he should have been out there. But I think it is completely speculative to say they knew he was there and approved of it when all involved say that was not the case. And it is hardly inconceivable that a player would be allowed onto the field by the people in charge of security. This wasn't "whoever the hell." He is a player on the team. Why would security exclude him? If security had discretion to exclude players from the field, there are a few seeing playing time on defense for whom I would I wish they would exercise this discretion.

My point is not that the team did everything correctly. On the contrary, I think the issue could and should have been handled better. But my point is that it is unfair to paint the oranization as "trash" or "classless" based on this incident. But I suppose it is time to stop flogging this deceased equine.

[SWFLSkins]

I understand what you are saying, and in a previous post, I agreed that that it is fair to criticize the team for not having a plan in place for Josh before the game. And I do not believe he should have been out there. But I think it is completely speculative to say they knew he was there and approved of it when all involved say that was not the case. And it is hardly inconceivable that a player would be allowed onto the field by the people in charge of security. This wasn't "whoever the hell." He is a player on the team. Why would security exclude him? If security had discretion to exclude players from the field, there are a few seeing playing time on defense for whom I would I wish they would exercise this discretion.

My point is not that the team did everything correctly. On the contrary, I think the issue could and should have been handled better. But my point is that it is unfair to paint the oranization as "trash" or "classless" based on this incident. But I suppose it is time to stop flogging this deceased equine.

Yeah I hate to go on about the quality of the Cowboys in such a manner. lol, cmon the Cowboys made a mistake, all men and teams do. Kudos to them for even supporting the guy when he could easily be sent adrift socially and professionally.

But if it smells bad don't eat it, works here just as well as everywhere else. This smells bad and that is on Jerry. Afterall it was the NFL and Jerry stating he would not be on the sidelines for the rest of the season. Seems the NFL did not like the PR hit either.