TheREALJBird Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I like Jr. but the answer to this question is absolutely yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 LOL, I'm too lazy to read through that many pages. I figured you were being sarcastic but it's the internet so you never know.I can see this thread has hit a nerve:silly: it was sarcasm but its truth too. chuck never could get past MJ and win the big one. he was always second. kind of like mark martin, right HH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 While you're struggling, SC, here's my argument. Carl has two fewer wins than Jr. in five fewer full seasons. Of the five times Carl and Jr. have both run the full cup season, Jr. has finished ahead of Carl in the season standings once. Carl's second season, 2005. Carl averages just over five spots higher than Jr. in the final season standings (using seasons that they've both run the full cup schedule.) In 2009, Carl won nine races. Jr.'s best season is six wins in 2006. Jr.'s highest finish in the points is 3rd. Carl's is 2nd. And finally... Jr. sucks. Carl does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 He was on pace for his best season finish ever. I'm sorry, I don't fire the CC in the middle of that. Maybe I was wrong. he was also fading in a lot of races and not finishing strong due to horrible final pit stops. sorry if you were too blind to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 it was sarcasm but its truth too. chuck never could get past MJ and win the big one. he was always second.kind of like mark martin, right HH? Yep. Better to be the first loser than the 11th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 he was also fading in a lot of races and not finishing strong due to horrible final pit stops.sorry if you were too blind to see it. It wasn't that, I just didn't care about the drivers who were non-factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Yep.Better to be the first loser than the 11th. youre right. its SO much better to always finish second and show you just dont have the killer instinct to actually push over the hump. at least the guy who finishes "11th" didnt have a legit shot so its not heart that he lacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 It wasn't that, I just didn't care about the drivers who were non-factors. funny, you were all up on biffle last year. he ONLY mattered to me though since he got me a free shot in Canton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metskins Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Guy won the Daytona 500. Somehow I doubt that he qualifies. **** like this only makes me root for him more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC_RedskinsFan Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Finish this if you can.....Dale Jr. is a better driver than Carl Edwards, and here's the proof: Dale Jr won the Busch series twice when he was only a Busch driver. Not a Cup driver dipping into the minor leagues to pad his stats. The only way one is going to be better is if one of them wins a Cup. That is a fact. What has Carl won when he has been on the same level as other drivers? Nothing but some races. You got 1 good year now you think Carl is the next best thing to sliced bread? Oh what we already have that driver, how is he doing? No he will be the next Jeff Gordon, no what that was Kahne, and how did that work out for him? Not to good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 funny, you were all up on biffle last year. he ONLY mattered to me though since he got me a free shot in Canton. The point was, Jr. is the #3 driver at HMS. Biffle is the #3 at Roush. I thought our #3 would win before YOUR #3 that's all. I was wrong. It happens to me about twice a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Dale Jr won the Busch series twice when he was only a Busch driver. Not a Cup driver dipping into the minor leagues to pad his stats. The only way one is going to be better is if one of them wins a Cup. That is a fact.What has Carl won when he has been on the same level as other drivers? Nothing but some races. You got 1 good year now you think Carl is the next best thing to sliced bread? Oh what we already have that driver, how is he doing? No he will be the next Jeff Gordon, no what that was Kahne, and how did that work out for him? Not to good. isnt HH all over Betty whenever he wins in the Busch series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC_RedskinsFan Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 How many wins does the great backflip have this year? zip lol same as JR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 Dale Jr won the Busch series twice when he was only a Busch driver. Not a Cup driver dipping into the minor leagues to pad his stats. The only way one is going to be better is if one of them wins a Cup. That is a fact.What has Carl won when he has been on the same level as other drivers? Nothing but some races. You got 1 good year now you think Carl is the next best thing to sliced bread? Oh what we already have that driver, how is he doing? No he will be the next Jeff Gordon, no what that was Kahne, and how did that work out for him? Not to good. He also has a 4-win season and a 3-win season. He's not exactly a flash in the pan. Granted, last season was crazy. I'm pretty sure he won't win nine races again in his career. But it's not like he came out of nowhere last year. You guys are consistent though. When we win more races, it's not about wins. When we're ahead in the standings, it's not about the standings. I'm sure WHEN we win a championship, it'll be about something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 There's one helluva battle going on between the two guys who are the REAL future of the sport right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 it was sarcasm but its truth too. chuck never could get past MJ and win the big one. he was always second.kind of like mark martin, right HH? Not completely his fault. Basketball is a team game. Rings don't solely dictate how good a player you were. It's not his fault he played against the best player ever. When you average 22 and 12 in the regular seasons and 23 and 13 in the playoffs you aren't overrated. And this guy is 6'6" averaging those kind of rebound #'s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC_RedskinsFan Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 He also has a 4-win season and a 3-win season. He's not exactly a flash in the pan. Granted, last season was crazy. I'm pretty sure he won't win nine races again in his career. But it's not like he came out of nowhere last year. Carl Edwards = Ryan Newman but less poles. :evilg: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 funny that you go back TWO years ONLY HH. how did he do in 06 again? oh thats right....ZERO wins. nada...zilch...nil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macnoke03 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Dale Jr = epic fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Not completely his fault. Basketball is a team game. Rings don't solely dictate how good a player you were. It's not his fault he played against the best player ever.When you average 22 and 12 in the regular seasons and 23 and 13 in the playoffs you aren't overrated. And this guy is 6'6" averaging those kind of rebound #'s. hmm..I wonder what his excuses were the year that Jordan wasnt there. or when he was surrounded by great players in Philly and Phoenix. Granted in Houston he was 240 years old and could barely play. but he tried. and he even fought shaq while he was 429 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Guy won the Daytona 500. Somehow I doubt that he qualifies.**** like this only makes me root for him more. :secret:...Derrick Cope has won the Daytona 500, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 funny that you go back TWO years ONLY HH. how did he do in 06 again?oh thats right....ZERO wins. nada...zilch...nil. FOUR OUT OF FIVE YEARS THEY'VE BOTH RUN CUP, CARL HAS FINISHED AHEAD OF JR. (Maybe you saw it that time.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Dale Jr = epic fail wow, you offered so much. how could i ever even think any different. i mean, "epic fail" says it all!! :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC_RedskinsFan Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Dale Jr = epic fail That is all you got? As compared to whoever your driver is? Keep drinking the hatorade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 Guy won the Daytona 500. Somehow I doubt that he qualifies.**** like this only makes me root for him more. Ah yes, the Super Bowl of NASCAR. Only difference is the team that wins the real Super Bowl is the champion. And like Bubble Screen said. Derrike Cope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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